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Pelicans 133, Kings 100: Home stand ends in a loss as poor effort dooms Sacramento

Mike Brown put it best: "They flat out kicked our a** for four quarters. I am sorry for Sacramento fans who came out and spent their money today."
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Jan 7, 2024; Sacramento, California, USA; New Orleans Pelicans center Jonas Valanciunas (17) takes a jump shot over Sacramento Kings forward Domantas Sabonis (10) during the first quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Ed Szczepanski-USA TODAY Sports

SACRAMENTO – At some point, enough has to become enough.

Sure, New Orleans is a bad matchup for the Kings, but minus Zion Williamson and Jose Alvarado, you would have thought this one might be, at least, competitive.

It was not.

From nearly the opening tip, Sacramento was outplayed in every facet of the game, losing the rebounding battle 15-4 after one quarter and 51-25 by the end of the game. The Pelicans, who were afforded wide-open looks due to a lackadaisical Kings’ defense that was a step slow – or more – on nearly every rotation, connected early and often, shooting 61% from the field and 54% from 3.

The fans were booing by the second quarter, and frankly, it was deserved. The Kings trailed by as many as 49 before ultimately losing 133-100 thanks to some good effort from the bench over the final quarter of play.

CJ McCollum went off for the short-handed Pels, scoring 30 points on 11-16 shooting. He connected on 7-10 three point attempts while adding seven rebounds and four assists. And all of that in just 27 minutes thanks to the blowout.

Meanwhile, the home team got little from their stars. De’Aaron Fox struggled in a way we haven’t seen often by the All Star, with just three points on 1-10 shooting. After hitting his first attempt of the game, a 3 pointer one minute into the first quarter, he missed his next nine attempts from the field, and played just eight minutes in the second half. Keegan Murray wasn’t much better, going 2-9 from the field and 1-6 from 3. Domantas Sabonis had another double-double, though most of his 17 points came in garbage time.

One bright spot was Sasha Vezenkov, who scored 11 off the bench in 21 minutes taking the injured Trey Lyles’ spot in the rotation. Kevin Huerter also flashed in the fourth, scoring 12 points to finish with 17.

To their credit, the bench played hard when their opportunity came, something that Keon Ellis doesn’t take for granted.

“I feel like we played hard,” Ellis said. “From the time I saw the game was getting out of hand, I was telling Colby ‘we know what we have to do. Play hard, play the right way, it doesn’t matter what the score is.’

“It’s big, not just from a sense of making the rotation, but as an opportunity, everyone knows you can be here today, gone tomorrow. So you have to make the most of every opportunity you get.”

Mike Brown complimented the finishing unit as well.

They tried” Brown said. “They cut, they moved, the kept the game simple with their passes. They tried to help one another. The group that ended the game, they were really good on both ends of the floor. Especially offensively, the way they played was the right way.”

But ultimately, Mike Brown should not be talking about the way role players finished the game on the wrong end of a blowout, and he knows it.

It’s going to be tough scoring when you have Keegan, Lik, and Fox going 5-29,” he said.

And when questioned about why his leadership council wasn’t at the podium ‘facing the music’, he deferred some, but did call out his All Stars.

Everybody should face the music because we are all a part of this,” Brown said. “We all have to speak on it, we all have to address it. It starts with Fox and Domas. They have to be accountable, they have to hold everyone else accountable. I do too. I am part of this ass-kicking today.”

Brown added that for the Kings to take that next step, it has to start from within.

I will be the first one to say I know I have to do a better job. I also firmly believe, in order to take that next step, there has to be a time and place where the guys hold each other accountable. I have never been around great teams where the coach is just constantly yelling. The teams that I have been a part of that are great, there comes a point and time where it comes from within. You can feel it. Everyone knows who’s going to step up on the floor and in the huddles. I will take the blame because obviously I have to do more with this team, but hopefully sooner or later we will get more from within.”

That didn’t happen Sunday. Keon Ellis told the media that “there was no message. I am pretty sure everyone knows what happened and what we have to get better at. There was nothing to be said.” But maybe it’s time for the leaders of this team to stop assuming and start challenging each other. It’s something Brown is clearly concerned by.

“When teams have it going, the lack of physicality and grit, I have never experienced having to go through it this many times,” he said. “You’re going to lose, there are teams you’re going to have matchup problems with, but the fight that was non-existent today and that hasn’t been there on a few occasions, that’s the tough part. I don’t see it in guys’ eyes, diving on the ground for loose balls, taking a charge, freaking hitting somebody… I don’t necessarily feel it.”

While the Kings remain in decent position as they near the mid point of the season, it’s obvious that they lack consistency and fair to question whether they lack toughness, as well. As the stands emptied early in the fourth quarter with the team trailing by 49, the murmur of “will they make a move?” rang loud.

Sunday’s result, though just one game, was the most recent in a pattern of this team losing big. As Deuce Mason tweeted, “it’s the 5th time they have been down 30+ in a game and the 3rd time they have been down 40+ this season.”

Of the team’s 14 losses, nine have been by double digits, and five of those have been by 20 or more points. It’s an ugly trend that can’t continue if this team wants to not just make the playoffs, but win once they get there.

Sacramento now sets out on a five game road trip, starting in Detroit against the Pistons Tuesday night.

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Putthegundown
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January 7, 2024 6:19 pm

Glad I didn’t waste my money 😂

TerzoM
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January 7, 2024 6:28 pm

No Trey No 3s

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January 7, 2024 6:46 pm

The Bipolar Kings –
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This is how it seems to go this season.

It’s likely my selective memory, but in 2022-2023 the scores seemed more stable, more linear. With a few exceptions, last season (I went to G1C to see Boston one week with Milwaukee a week later) the Kings got beat down, but not like the first 35 games this season where the flow of the games seems disjointed. Maybe it’s just the pain of expectations (aka planned disappointments).

Is this a call to make a trade or a call to let this hardship bring this squad closer together?

Hobby916
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January 7, 2024 7:02 pm

One thing players can control is effort. Shots won’t fall, refs make calls, etc. Can’t control those things. But the lack of effort is just unacceptable.

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January 7, 2024 9:28 pm
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It seems like lack of focus more than effort, or a big part of this teams issues.

And I don’t understand why Brown doesn’t get them to quit running PNR or 1-1 all the fucking time. Move the ball.

they used to rely on Fox to just get past anyone into the lane-score or playmaker but
it seems like Foxes ankle is effecting him.

So now they got nada. No DHO?

I am all over the place with this post because all of this is to say they’ve got some real issues and need some talent acquisitions.

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January 7, 2024 7:01 pm

I stopped watching halfway through the 2nd quarter. It was the first time I turned a game off early this season. Same story over and over.

Roster shake up needs to happen. Can’t just keep getting blown out like that.

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January 7, 2024 7:03 pm
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There’s a contender window open right now. MM needs to address the weaknesses and give this core a chance to make a deep playoff run. If not, this team has first round exit written all over it, maybe second round if they avoid teams with size in the first round.

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January 7, 2024 7:38 pm
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First round exit. First round exit. FIRST ROUND EXIT? Are you kiddind me. We migh tnot even make the playoffs.

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January 7, 2024 7:54 pm
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A lot of teams in the west are more talented . 7th at best .

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January 8, 2024 8:57 am
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Nah, there’s not a contender window open now. We’re at least three player upgrades away from that.

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January 8, 2024 7:07 am
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It was a bad game, sure. However I don’t think the roster needs a shakeup, especially not now in the middle of the season. The kings still have a 60% win percentage, good for 8th in the entire nba.

a small move or two at the deadline might be okay. I’d wait for the offseason to consider a bigger move.

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January 8, 2024 7:18 am
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Maybe not major moves, but theybhave to get some higher end talent on the roster. Davion, huerter, Duarte just aren’t cutting it.

Brown doesn’t play Sasha much, and Ellis has lost minutes for some reason. So guys like Thybulle, Okoro, Caruso, etc probably need to be looked at.

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January 8, 2024 8:18 am
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that player you’re looking for to start at SG who plays limited minutes and does not finish the game will be found. he might be on the roster.

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January 8, 2024 9:00 am
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Getting a quality upgrade at SG seems like it has the potential to be a Bibby for J-Will move. As in, replace the streaky guy with the fun nickname who can’t be trusted to be on the floor in crunch time, with a rock solid performer.

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January 8, 2024 11:25 am
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Monk is pretty good in crunch time.

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January 8, 2024 1:36 pm
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Oh, I wasn’t saying he’s not. However, landing a starting SG that isn’t a 4th quarter (among others) liability would be great for the roster.

I’m a firm believer that Malik is best as a super 6th man.

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January 9, 2024 8:16 am
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JWill was trusted by Pat Riley to be a starter on an NBA Champion .

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January 7, 2024 7:01 pm

We can’t hang with the big boys, clear as day at this point.
We need size, length and athleticism.

Jack
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January 7, 2024 7:45 pm
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Is this team really working together? I was at the Raptors game with my wife. I was a coach so she knows basketball. After the game driving home(we live in Grass Valley) she asked me why in the second half didn’t they get the ball to Murray? He was 4 for 4 of 3’s in the first half and it wasn’t until 2 minutes left in the game they finally gave him the ball and he hit the go ahead 3. She said it didn’t make sense and I agreed.

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January 7, 2024 7:48 pm
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They lean too heavily on fox, monk, sabonis at times. The ball movement stops and they try to run a 3 man offense.

The offense excels when the ball moves and players relocate throughout the possession.

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January 8, 2024 2:05 pm
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totally agree- this has become a 3 man team.
and Keegan should demand the ball, not just get it and pass backwards or across court.

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January 7, 2024 9:10 pm
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We’re in Grass Valley also.

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January 7, 2024 7:49 pm

Didn’t watch the game as I woke up late.

Luckily there’s still one more game against this very same Pels to watch I was not able to watch, sounded like a stenchfest based on the comments and game thread.

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January 7, 2024 8:10 pm

I missed 3 Pels games including this one. Were they down 40 at one point? Yikes

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January 7, 2024 9:22 pm
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The Kings trailed by as many as 49 before ultimately losing 133-100 thanks to some good effort from the bench over the final quarter of play

If the team needs a good effort in the final quarter to lose by only 33 points… yikes!

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January 8, 2024 8:04 am
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And that effort came from the bench.

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January 7, 2024 8:18 pm

Worst game I’ve seen under the MB era. The starters and normal rotation players came out absolutely flat, glad to see Ellis and Jones (and Edwards) get some real run though.

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January 7, 2024 9:20 pm

Team doesn’t seem to be playing with much passion in general, players look somewhat disinterested pretty often. The supporting cast is average and Brown’s rotations have gotten stranger as the season has progressed which wasn’t the case last year. I think guys like Ellis, Len, McGee, and Vezzy have value and should be in there consistently.

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January 7, 2024 9:24 pm

If the Kings can be so thoroughly destroyed by the same team 4 games in a row, then they have no business thinking about anything beyond the first round of the playoffs.

I’m fine with appreciating this team ending the playoff drought, but that doesn’t mean their shit don’t stink. The team is still a piece or two away from being taken seriously. The Pels’ length and defense shows the Kings very obvious weaknesses. Monte still has work to do.

Lastly, Fox looks tired and a bit beaten up. His usage is at an all time high and I’m worried it may not be sustainable if he is to have an impact on both ends of the floor.

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January 8, 2024 10:15 am
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I don’t know about the team, but I’m not expecting anything beyond a 1st round appearance….with or without a trade. They’re still a number of moves away from moving to the 2nd round or beyond.

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January 8, 2024 10:25 am
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Supplemental move this trade deadline, and then a larger move in the offseason after the 2024 1st conveys to Atlanta. Kings just don’t have the best assets to trade. Most of their picks will be in the back half of the 1st and 2nd rounds.

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January 8, 2024 11:08 am
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I think the focus will be on something Monte has done before….find the “Lyles” of other teams. There are almost certainly a number of players around the league that are being undervalued by their current organizations due to systems, roster fit, coaching, etc. Lyles was one of those players, and Detroit (granted they’re a garbage FO) let him go for a pack of gum. No reason to think that our depressed assets couldn’t be used to gain some of those.

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January 8, 2024 11:15 am
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That would be nice. Bagley was still seen by Detroit as having talent (bad assessment by them). Is there anyone on the roster that you think other teams might view them that way?

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January 8, 2024 1:02 pm
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I fully believe someone will come sniffing around for Barnes and/or Huerter.

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January 8, 2024 1:20 pm
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My guess was Davion. Some team will see him as a good defender they can plug in to their system and get better results. Maybe Miami or Cleveland?

Miami is always having injury problems, and Davion has stayed relatively healthy over the past 3 seasons. Maybe the Kings can snag Jovic from the deal and kick the tires on his upside.

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January 8, 2024 1:33 pm
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Jovic for Mitchell would please me.

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January 8, 2024 1:04 pm
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I think Lyles, Barnes, Huerter, and even Mitchell could all be seen as that by other teams. The question is, who are those teams and what player(s) of interest would they want to let go of.

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January 7, 2024 9:29 pm

I mean every team in the NBA took loses like this. I believe the bucks have nothing but losses against the Pacers. I’m not going cry about it. The team needs to make a move at 4 and a back up wing spot that’s obvious. One thing I wish they stop doing is playing Davion. It doesn’t make sense when a monk and sabonis is the play makers with the ball, while Davion is wide open waiting to brick a 3.

I love fox. Why can’t he pass the ball anymore? Why is he not using his speed anymore? All he gotta do is break teams down with his driving find the open man. Coach need to make adjustments , especially with his subbing.

monte only got one good draft and traded away a guy to build around two guys that need players that barely exist in the nba lol

change the lineup give colby a chance.

go kings lol

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January 7, 2024 9:38 pm

I honestly don’t know how Davion has earned his minutes back over Keon. It’s a head scratcher for me.

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January 8, 2024 7:19 am
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Makes no sense. Too small of lineups with him and fox/monk.

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January 8, 2024 8:08 am
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Right. End of last night’s first half 9 rebounds. Doesn’t cut it.

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January 8, 2024 3:47 pm
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I thought Keon was playing well. I was then away 1.5 weeks before Xmas, and Keon was gone from rotation. WTH

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January 8, 2024 4:58 pm
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Pretty confident that Keon is better than Davion, statistically, across the board. Davion has am edge in Assist ratio and FT%. So why Davion keeps playing is mind boggling.

Ellis had a bad game, then followed that up with the game he got 2 techs. Don’t think he has played meaningful minutes since then.

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January 7, 2024 9:48 pm

In a season where continuity was the buzzword, it’s frustrating to see the way Brown throws shit at the wall with his rotations trying to figure things out. And seems to make weird decisions in that respect. Keon, Sasha and Len look like the players that shouldn’t have gotten the short end of the stick, especially if you value D and toughness.

As others said, the offense lacks the flow and movement with and without ball of last season.

Defense is both an effort and a roster issue.

Losing to shorthanded teams is a Kangz special.

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January 8, 2024 9:48 am
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especially if you value D and toughness.

I am with you here. I know there will be some bad losses, and won’t get too worked up over them. But it is a head-scratcher that players who seemingly give effort and play hard defense are sat and their minutes re-distributed to other players for seemingly no reason.
I think I’ve heard more than once, “Credit to the other team, they came in here and kicked our behinds.” … So something should be done about that, yes?…

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January 8, 2024 9:53 am
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Which guys should he be throwing in there on a nightly basis then? Or should he be pulling guys for being lackadaisical?

Keon and Kessler seem to play hard defensively, same with Sasha. They just don’t play much anymore, for some reason.

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January 8, 2024 11:40 am
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I think one of the Knicks in Brown is adjusting and teams get tired of his same energy/harping in D etc.

I’m not sure that’s happening with the kings but all year Browns just been screaming about physicality on defense and all these other things and yet the kings are no better on defense. And now they are worse on offense.

Fox’s ankle is definitely effecting his game/it all but all the ?s about the Kings are coming to fruition.

they’re all stars don’t play defense very well. Nor does anyone on that starting squad except maybe Keegan right now.

They need to alter their offenses now, with Fox, unable to move as well, and yet they haven’t. They need to change personnel, but might have put themselves into a corner.

Monte is going to have to earn his keep now. I’m still not sure why they decided to bring in guys like the vez who are not defenders. And the Davion Mitchell pic was not good. Bringing in Kevin Huerter was not smart either. And not getting rid of Barnes yet or replacing him?

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January 8, 2024 1:01 pm
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It’s interesting to see that Sasha is 2nd on the team in drtg (behind Keegan) among players averaging over 10 minutes a game in at least 25 games.

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January 8, 2024 1:22 pm
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Lyles gets those minutes at the backup 4. I would like to see a lineup with Lyles at C and Sasha at PF against teams that go small.

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January 8, 2024 2:04 pm
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As would I. We seem to have a number of different looks we could run (and were rumored to test out this year), but so far that hasn’t happened.

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January 8, 2024 2:21 pm
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Also would like to see Fox, Murray, Barnes, Lyles, Domas lineup. I saw it last year a few times and liked it. More so now that Murray is defending better.

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January 8, 2024 3:59 pm
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That is. I’m not sure why he can’t get any minutes when Trey is there.

Especially some of Barnes minutes.

Trade Barnes so Vez can play some or use Vez in a trade.

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January 7, 2024 10:23 pm

So many of you are pleading for Monte to make moves.

The Kings are planning to keep Keegan and Resign Monk.

What do you think you’re getting for this grab bag: A declining 4. That can no longer defend at a high level. Offense has dropped off a cliff. Owns no longer worth that 17 mil per. An undersized guard that hasn’t proven he can lead an offense consistently when put in the position to do so. A slow and unathletic 2’guard. Who has been exposed as nothing more than spot shooter.(and he can’t even do that consistently anymore)’And as a bonus gets absolutely torched by fast and athletic 2s on the other end.

in addition to that tantalizing treasure trove of assets. The Kings have their picks. Albeit Late first rounders for the next 3-4 years.

The Knicks, OKC, Houston, and Pels can all clean up before the trade deadline. Tons of picks and numerous young assets.

You cannot expect Monte to land any difference maker with a grab bag of Huerter, Barnes, Davion and late first rounders.

A couple of role players. Sure. But starters to supplant Huerter and Barnes? Be realistic.

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January 7, 2024 10:36 pm
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If we take that as point of departure, who is to blame that the asset cupboard is bare?
Didn’t Monte draft Davion, trade for Huerter, resign Barnes and trade away second round picks for cash considerations?

Monte deserves props for some moves, but he isn’t exempt from criticism.

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January 8, 2024 12:36 am
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There will always be teams interested in a reclamation project or are just desperate. Plus, other than the one we owe Atlanta, have all our picks. Other contending teams seem to be able to conjure trades out of thin air even with a bare cupboard, so I’m not worried that moves can’t be made going forward.

The problem I see is that right now, there are a lot of buyers and only a few sellers. Other than Siakam, which we already know is not happening, and Lavine (barf) there’s not much there. Will Portland accept a lightly protected first and salary match for Grant? They seem to want to stick with him. Maybe swap distressed assets with the Lakers or Warriors? Seems far-fetched and lateral, at best. I feel the time to have made a big move, either signing or trade, was in the offseason. But Monte chose to keep his powder dry, pay Barnes, and run it back.

I hope I’m wrong but I’ve resigned that this season is what it is. They will continue to be wildly inconsistent, then lose again in the first round. It would be unlike Monte to make any panic moves, so we’ll have to wait until offseason for anything major.

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January 8, 2024 9:39 am
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This seems to be a problem. They don’t have the assets to be competitive in the trade market. It seems like we are stuck where we are unless the front office is willing to entertain trading “core” pieces.

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January 8, 2024 10:08 am
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I agree completely.

So why not have Fox on the table? I like Fox but I don’t love him as a player. I mentioned this on here recently and got kinda torched for it.

He can do amazing things when engaged. He has a tendency to try to do too much at times and when it does not go well his effort seems to drop off. There are times where he just looks lackadaisical.

He will bring back the best talent. I think Monk could start if Fox was traded. In a lot of ways Monk is a poor man’s Fox and he does some things better.

So for example, trade Fox for Markkanen (with whatever fillers are needed to even it out)
The starting lineup could be:
Sabonis
Monk
Markkanen
Murray
Duarte

I’m not saying that is perfect or even should be done or if Utah would play along. I’m saying to act like Fox is untouchable is ignorant.

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January 8, 2024 10:17 am
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If you’re putting Fox on the trading block, you might as well put Sabonis and Murray too.

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January 8, 2024 10:36 am
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Why?

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January 8, 2024 10:51 am
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If you’re trading Fox, you’re basically punting on this roster build, considering he’s the cornerstone that they built it around.

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January 8, 2024 11:10 am
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Disagree, we have different valuations of Fox

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January 8, 2024 11:18 am
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My valuation is the franchise’s valuation.

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January 8, 2024 11:45 am
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Maybe that is part of the problem

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January 8, 2024 10:41 am
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I’m not necessarily saying to put any of them on the block. I’m saying nobody should be off the table. That is a big difference.

This team is slightly above average IMO but has major flaws, why not use an asset to improve it? Basically spend money to make money. I don’t see the Kings getting anything useful by offering spare parts. If that is the approach I only see lateral moves.

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January 8, 2024 8:19 pm
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His name was Haliburton.

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January 9, 2024 8:29 am
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Has yet to play in a playoff game or play on a winning team . Love him but until he does it he hasn’t .

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January 8, 2024 3:20 pm
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This isn’t a video game.

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January 7, 2024 10:30 pm

This team is wildly inconsistent, and so frustrating to watch this year. But the main difference I see is it’s just not as fun as last year. Besides the surprise winning part that was last year, that team seemed to be enjoying the games and really playing fun.

This year just seems… “meh”.

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January 8, 2024 4:52 am

The joy of last season was what made it special. Yeah they were winning and that was exciting to see too.

These dudes were running around all smiles, high fives, had some swag last season. This year they look like the pressure of having another winning season is getting to them, and maybe that is causing some internal strife amongst the players.

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January 7, 2024 11:23 pm

In the four games thus far against New Orleans the Kings have been outscored 506 to 422. That makes an average loss margin of 21 which is wild over a 4 game span. Just an absolutely one-sided matchup. They face off one more time on April 11, the last week of the season. Not sure if I want to make sure I’m too busy to watch that night or be in the building to witness whatever may take place.

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January 8, 2024 4:55 am
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That game will be a measure of whether or not changes were made. Also will probably have some important seeding implications.

If they get stomped by 20+ again, then something just ain’t right.

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January 7, 2024 11:46 pm

I spent $1600 on 10 tickets for all my immediate family as a Christmas gift and the Kings did… that. Explaining to my mom that the guy who scored 3 points averages 30 a game was interesting. What an absolute disaster. First game for my two boys as well. I don’t think my 3 year old will ever want to go to a game again.

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January 8, 2024 2:16 am

Let’s hope the 3-year-old is young enough to overcome the trauma! 😉 I am really sorry for all the money you spent and to receive that “product”. It would be nice gesture if the players & coaches, MM … not only felt sorry (paraphrasing Brown) but offered to reimburse fans their money ofr a performance like that!

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January 8, 2024 4:10 am

Ouch.

Sorry to hear this, FKaC.

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January 8, 2024 7:57 am

Damn, so sorry that happened.

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January 8, 2024 8:04 am

This sucks.

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January 8, 2024 8:26 am

That really sucks.

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January 8, 2024 12:35 am

Keon Ellis was one of the only, if not the only, player to go to the podium after the game and he only played 12 minutes in garbage time?

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January 8, 2024 2:16 am

I like Keon … plays the right way and makes the most of his talent.

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January 8, 2024 4:13 am

Yeah, that was no bueno.

Easy to be leaders and faces of the franchise when all is well and you’re smiling and joking.

But coming to the postgame press conference to show accountability after such a game is when true leadership shows.

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January 8, 2024 8:16 am
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Boy did you hit the nail on the head.

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January 8, 2024 8:15 am

A sacrificial lamb for sure. All 5 of the starters should have been on the podium together.

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January 8, 2024 4:04 am

OT: Trades – Would Zach Collins help the Kings? Could he play next to Domas when the Kings “play big” (e.g. DS, ZC, TL or KM, KM or CD or CJ, DF or MM or KE) and backup Domas up when he sits. Could Zach Collins be acquired without giving up too much? For Huerter or Barnes?

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January 8, 2024 4:58 am

I like Collins and think he would be great for this team. Big, rebounds, and has some nasty in him.

Problem is he can’t be traded this season because of either when he signed his contract or because of the type of contract he has.

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January 8, 2024 8:45 am
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Indeed from Sportrac  Trade Restriction: This player cannot be traded until Apr 22, 2024.

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January 8, 2024 5:31 am

Games like this, raise the question I thought had been put to rest; Is Sabonis a legitimate 5? And the answer is; most of the time, sometimes no. He can’t guard (or score in the post against) big, physical centers consistently w/o help. Imagine the difference if you replace Barnes with Webber. They’re just too small. If Sabonis isn’t providing maximum effort, (and he just extended) he’s just not good enough. And it’s a long season.
I’m not sure this can be fixed this season, maybe they’ll find more motivation come playoffs, They will be there, let’s not get hysterical. Sabonis is a unique center, needs a unique partner in the front court. That ideal partner may not be available, even if he actually exists. Good Luck finding him Monte!

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January 8, 2024 7:21 am
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Against the bigger guys, Domas has to tale that mid range shot because he just doesn’t bully those guys at the rim like he does smaller guys.

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January 8, 2024 9:49 am
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I have always thought of Sabonis as more of a 4 and have thought having a rim protector/offensive rebounder/rim runner type next to him would work especially against the bigger teams.

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January 8, 2024 9:44 pm
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Most 4s these days can spread the floor and shoot. Sabonis cannot

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January 8, 2024 7:47 am

Horrible game, but great write-up Melissa! I really feel like the quotes from the press conference push these write-ups to new heights.

I’ve said all year that this team is not great, but also far from bad – it’s simply pretty good. A thing I still cherish after watching so many horrible losses after the last decade plus.

Having said that, the amount of giant losses are now starting to worry me. There were multiple games last year where the Kings would fall behind early, but would scratch and claw themselves back to a win. They were mentally tough. That toughness now seems to have dissipated. I hope it comes back, because last night’s game reminded me of the Kings under Walton. I don’t like to be reminded of that time.

Lastly, shout-out to James Ham for asking Mike Brown about the no showing Kings’ leadership council at the press conference. Put the nail on the head. Shout-out to Keon Ellis as well for actually speaking to the press.

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January 8, 2024 7:55 am

I was out doing intern work at the SacAnime convention this weekend in downtown Sacramento, and I completely forgot they had an early matinee game today. Certainly glad I didn’t check the watch/check the score at any point. :\

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January 8, 2024 8:57 am
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Never knew there is an AnimeCon in town – interesting

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January 8, 2024 10:09 am
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Yeah, SacAnime has been around for a while (I think since 2004?). I only started attending in summer 2022, but they have winter shows in early January and summer shows during Labor Day weekend every year at the convention center in downtown. If you’re a fan of anime/animation/video games, there’s tons of voice actors as guests every show. I tried something different this time after going to the last three shows as an attendee and decided to work this past weekend. Tiring but interesting experience (I was managing autograph lines, so lots of standing!).

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January 8, 2024 8:10 am

My personal expectation is 2nd round exit (if no Pels 1st round 😁). I don’t see us getting a major difference maker(s) in return for Barnes/Huerter/Davion. Next expectation is off season trades for WCF 24-25 season.

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January 8, 2024 9:44 pm
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Right now it’s Clips first round. They wouldn’t beat them either.
Not a chance against this Healthy Clips squad. Not a chance.

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January 8, 2024 9:14 am

Look who we have tomorrow, a 3-33 team.. woo hoo?
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January 8, 2024 2:25 pm
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AnybodyButBagley.

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January 8, 2024 9:43 am

Jonas Valanciunas and Travis Kelce have to be related, right? They look like they could be brothers.

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January 8, 2024 9:45 am

I hate to say it but the Kings are soft. When things get tough, they fold. If a team plays physical or they are missing their normal shots, they fold. They rely on offense and hitting 3s in particular way too much.

When things are clicking it is beautiful to watch but until they get tougher playoff success is a pipe dream.

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January 8, 2024 10:42 am

Does anyone know of a site that shows Opponent Field Goal % differential? Specifically looking to see how Kings players do versus an opponent, compared to that opponents season shooting percentages.

I looked on NBA.com and I really don’t like their dashboard.

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January 8, 2024 11:25 am
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Does anyone know what the term physical capability means? My wife asked this after last nights game. As a physical education major at Humboldt State ( quite a long time ago) along with my wife we had to take a class called physiology of exercise. In that course physical capability would come up a lot. Every athlete has one some more than others. Watching Fox play in the last 3 or 4 games I wonder because of what he does night in and night out he sometimes has reached his physical capability. Does he do too much? Will he trust other team mates to the tune of no therefore putting too much of a load on his shoulders every night? A couple of commentators said they warched Fox moving, not like himself, when going to the locker room. Along with other observations the question might be has he reached his physical capacity? Every athlete works out everyday to get his or hers body in shape. Can you do too much to try and get their body to perform when it is time to do so. I thought my wife had a very good question. I don’t know if any of us have the right answer. Only that athlete would know.

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January 8, 2024 11:43 am
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PS I read this to my wife and her answer not just Fox but every NBA player has to perform every game night in and night out and how much can he or her do to satisfy our expectations.

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January 8, 2024 12:12 pm
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Question. Trying to do some comparisons for a trade for a power forward. Who would you consider PJ Washington or Kyule Kuzma? And why?

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January 8, 2024 2:18 pm
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not big on PJ- sort of an after thought player. Kuzma, on the other hand, while not an alpha, acts like one. Kings need an aggressive third guy- and stop playing the Fox, Monk and DS keep away game. Kuzam would get the ball even if he had to throw it to himself on the in-bounds and try to get a bucket. Teams would have to guard him. They don’t guard HB, Keegan or KH with any intensity since these guys just pass the ball across court.

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January 8, 2024 4:33 pm
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I liked PJ when he first came into the league, but his career per 36 numbers are no better than Trey Lyles’ numbers. Given that Trey is paid less than half of what PJ is paid, I’d rather just expand Trey’s role than give up assets to acquire PJ.

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January 8, 2024 2:03 pm

This year is different than last. Last year: new offense, new attitude, DHO had them all fooled. Ball moved.
This year: KH in slump and over last 15 games or so, Fox and DS and Monk all feel that it is up to them and them alone, to solve the offense issue. The 3 of them (and I love them all) just don’t trust the others. KH is slumping, HB is HB and Keegan is so passive it is pathetic. So, the 3 just play 3 on 5.
Teams now focus on containing DS and Fox.
There is a brief window here in the West: OKC ahead of schedule, SAS will be good in 3 years as will Houston. LAL, duds, LAC are fading. Suns are cooked. Brief window.
I had advocated for patience, now not so sure. Kings need some offensive aggression besides the 3 of DS, Monk and DS. Not KH, HB or Keegan. Get the ball away from those 3.
Markenon, Pascal, Kuzma, D. Murray. LaVine- I would take any one of them. Have to do some salary matching but match with marginal guys and use picks as the sweetener.
Second option: Caruso, Thybulle or another defensive wing.
But at this point, I am past patience.
The multiple losses of over 20 points shows that there is something really wrong.
Fox is playing hurt. Fox has trouble with tall, lanky guys. DS has trouble with physical centers.
So adjust, get a third aggressive offensive player.
I compare Keegan to PG3 and Leonard- but they take the ball strongly to the hole, have nifty in the paint moves. Keegan gets in the paint, stops, pivots and passes backwards out of it, Those guys get the ball and look to score. Keegan get it, looks to pass.
Lyles is more of the look to score type.

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January 8, 2024 2:24 pm
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When Keegan gets the ball, he needs to shoot the 3 or look at getting to the rim. Become more shoot first, pass second and stop deferring to Fox, Monk, Domas as much.

And Fox, Monk, Domas have to trust the others guys on the court to play their role and hit shots. When teammates lose confidence because they aren’t being passed the ball when wide open, things start unravelling.

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January 8, 2024 2:38 pm
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Keegan is taking 3 more FGA per game this season, good enough for 3rd on the the team and just a blip below Domas. FWIW, he was 5th in FGA per game last season. I’d say his increased usage and shooting is coming along just fine.

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Clippers are fading. Lol! Kings would get swept by this current iteration of the Clips.I kid you not.
Keegan is like PG and Kawhi?’ Lol!

This random post has been approved by crack and Jack Daniel’s.

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January 9, 2024 8:37 am
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Actually Keegan compared to 2nd year George rates very well and better than Pega .

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January 8, 2024 3:20 pm

OT: For anyone looking for info on the Siakam front. This is likely the nail in the coffin for any trade on that front.

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January 8, 2024 4:03 pm
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1-why not? The kings are no longer a terrible organization, and in the days of social media now you can build your brand wherever you play. I find it interesting and weird that he wouldn’t resign.

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January 8, 2024 4:03 pm
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Also, OG was the guy the kings needed. Absolutely. They’re gonna have to find somebody like that and find a way to make a deal. The ship is sinking.

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January 8, 2024 4:47 pm
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Thybulle.

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January 8, 2024 5:04 pm
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Oh yeah? He’d be good. And another PF/wing like him too.

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January 8, 2024 6:14 pm
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I’d honestly just settle with a player like him.

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I’ll go for Thybulle. We still need a PF. I really like Tari Eason. We could get both.

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January 8, 2024 5:02 pm
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I had heard Siakam wanted to go to free agency this summer, no matter who traded for him.

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January 8, 2024 5:05 pm
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Ohhhh. That makes sense. More $

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January 8, 2024 3:42 pm

OT: Trap game, here we go… again

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January 8, 2024 5:03 pm
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Killin Hayes hits 7 threes and goes for 31.

Been that kind of year for Sacramento.

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January 8, 2024 5:09 pm

Ooooh, wonder how long Haliburton might be out for after that slip.

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January 8, 2024 6:00 pm
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Oh no. That looked like it hurt. Hoping for the best for the young man.

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January 8, 2024 7:30 pm

Oh damn. Ja Morant done for the season.

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January 8, 2024 7:43 pm
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If I were Monte, I’d give a call on the availability of Smart.

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January 8, 2024 9:32 pm
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Hell, if they’re going to blow it up now that Ja is done, we should be calling on the availability of Jackson, Bane, Aldama, and Biyambo, too.

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January 9, 2024 8:41 am
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Like all except Byambo . Not sure why Grizz would even consider trading young talent like Jackson or Bane .

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January 9, 2024 9:13 am
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I bet they’d trade Smart. Mitchell and Huerter for Smart works perfectly.

They could go full tank, get out of Smart’s deal, kick the tires on Mitchell, slide Bane back over to the 2 and put Huerter at the 3. Kings get a bulldog defender to start next to Fox. Smart could become the Kings version of Doug Christie/Tony Allen. Don’t need him to shoot or score, just need him to be a disruptor who can also run the offense.

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January 9, 2024 9:06 am

Would a trade for Wiggins make sense for the Kings? Hasn’t been the same player since he took that leave of absence last season, but there is still a player there.

Something like Barnes/Huerter for Wiggins (maybe a smaller salary from the Kings if needed).

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January 9, 2024 9:17 am
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Wiggins does seem broken these days. If the Dubs are desperate to get out of his deal I’d offer Barnes and Huerter for Wiggins and Moody and let them stew on that for a bit.

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