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Trey Lyles is returning to the Kings, per report

The Kings are keeping a key depth piece.
By | 133 Comments | Jun 30, 2023

Dec 23, 2022; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings center Trey Lyles (41) smiles toward the Washington Wizards bench between plays during the third quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports

The Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement to retain Trey Lyles, according to a report from Chris Haynes. The report does not include any contract salary specifics.

James Ham reports that the deal is a two-year contract for Lyles.

Lyles openly spoke about his desire to return to the Kings, so this isn’t exactly surprising news, but it’s still good news. Lyles was a key piece of Sacramento’s bench rotation this season.

Lyles’ deal will likely be the last part of the Kings’ offseason to be officially completed, as the Kings can use his rights to go over the salary cap after finalizing other contracts.

Update:

Sam Amick reports that Lyle’s deal is 2 years, $16million, which would be more than Lyles’ early bird rights. It seems like this deal might be using cap space, but we will need to wait to see.

Update 2:

Early Bird allows you to sign a player for 175% of his previous year salary, OR 105% of average NBA player salary from the previous season. That latter calculation is likely how we get to the 2 years for $16 million, meaning the Kings still preserve their cap space.

 

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RobHessing
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June 30, 2023 3:13 pm

That’s our top 8 minutes guys coming back, plus Duarte for TD at #9. And still some cap space left.

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June 30, 2023 3:22 pm
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Yeah that’s huge, Sasha likely to slot in in #8/9 for minutes bumping Duarte to 10. Hard to bump from our top 9 if Sasha comes over. I don’t think anything happens unless it’s a trade that frees up rotational minutes.

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June 30, 2023 4:15 pm
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Yup get Sasha, he provides flexibility especially if we get a back up center like Mo Bamba., Sasha can play 4 and have Mo playing 5

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June 30, 2023 5:06 pm
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I like the Bamba idea

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June 30, 2023 5:32 pm
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Is he better than Queta?

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June 30, 2023 6:25 pm
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Don’t know we could have both..

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June 30, 2023 6:45 pm
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It sounds good. Bamba has sounded a lot better, his whole career, than he has ever actually been. We’d all love to see him break-out, here in Sac..

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June 30, 2023 8:20 pm
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Both sounds like a plan.

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June 30, 2023 6:52 pm
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He’s had moments in the NBA but really hasn’t gotten a lot of run. He can actually space the floor and protect the rim. There must be something keeping him out of rotations but I’m not sure what it is.

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June 30, 2023 3:14 pm

Welcome home, Trey.

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June 30, 2023 3:15 pm

2 years, $16m is a bit more than I would have guessed, but it’s not a budget buster in rate or term.

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June 30, 2023 3:18 pm
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I thought it would be slightly lower as well, similar to HB’s contract. I like resigning both these guys, just wish the average per year were a little lower on both their contracts.

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June 30, 2023 3:23 pm
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I would think they over paid a bit per year to keep it at 2 years.

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June 30, 2023 3:30 pm
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Seeing how much Kuz, Green and Jerami Grant just got, I retract my statement above. Looks like HB and Lyles are on value contracts.

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June 30, 2023 3:31 pm
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Right?

That blows me away.

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June 30, 2023 3:33 pm
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It’s almost like McNair knows how to evaluate the market. So glad he is the GM.

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June 30, 2023 3:36 pm
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Certainly when compared to the TKH membership.

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June 30, 2023 4:42 pm
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Rob, saying “The TKH” is saying The The Kings Herald. Come on now.

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June 30, 2023 5:21 pm
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That all depends on how you define the word, “the”.

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June 30, 2023 6:03 pm
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He’s smarter than me!

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June 30, 2023 6:04 pm
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The Me, I mean.

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June 30, 2023 3:35 pm
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Kuz’s deal isn’t outrageous – with him the concern was probably more about role.

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June 30, 2023 3:39 pm
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Agreed, but I’m glad another team is paying him that contract and not the Kings. We basically have HB and Lyles for the same yearly amount.

TaintedMeat
June 30, 2023 3:46 pm
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Actually surprised Kuzma was that cheap

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June 30, 2023 4:49 pm
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the game of musical chairs was going on and the music stopped at his original Wizards chair and he sat right down since the other chairs were all full.

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June 30, 2023 5:37 pm
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He got over $25M, and wasn’t coming to Sac. for less than very close to $30M, pretty close to what people were saying.

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June 30, 2023 7:43 pm
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Yeah I agree, and I’d rather have Kuzma as the most talented guy rather then 2 inferior players at this point, but ultimately it seems like we tried but he chose to stay and basically Washington’s number one option getting him to his next pay raise rather then be our 3th option here. I think we were probably prepared to give him the same amount just not the same role, he’s got no need to chase rings currently.

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June 30, 2023 5:12 pm
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Lyles is under rated so theres that too.

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June 30, 2023 5:09 pm
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so far, everything the Kings are doing is for 3 million more than I would have prefferd but only 2 million more than I would have guessed. I’m thinking this is just the way things go in the NBA. its a constant increase of salary around the league for all players every season. Its just the way it is. meaning I don’t think any of these contracts at their price are overpay’s.

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June 30, 2023 6:06 pm
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Sacramento tax

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June 30, 2023 5:44 pm
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ESPN projected Lyles getting $10M per year. Monte managed to surprise, (Duarte) while still playing the middle of the course.

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June 30, 2023 3:16 pm

Well done!

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June 30, 2023 3:19 pm

Lyles’ deal will likely be the last part of the Kings’ offseason to be officially completed, as the Kings can use his rights to go over the salary cap after finalizing other contracts. Why wasn’t this done with Harrison Barnes?

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June 30, 2023 3:21 pm

Hey hey Trey!

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June 30, 2023 3:22 pm

I love it.

Trey was sort of timid and low motor in previous seasons, he really seemed to find his lane in Sac.

He gets a good sum, the Kings get a piece that fits well, and he has value if a more significant player shakes loose. Almost any team in the league would take a capable stretch 4 on a short term contract back in a trade.

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June 30, 2023 3:23 pm

And the most handsome King returns!

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June 30, 2023 3:26 pm

Keeping the core of high BBIQ and likeabke guys is great.
I’m happy. Now we need to get DS backup at center. Rim protector please!

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June 30, 2023 5:15 pm
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Neemias is one of two back up centers needed. I hope he signs on with the big club. The dude deserves it.

TaintedMeat
June 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Dude balled out in the playoffs, when some melted like HB andHuerter, Lyles stepped it up.

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June 30, 2023 3:50 pm
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I wouldn’t say stepped up, I’d say more like softened but didn’t melt.

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June 30, 2023 5:49 pm
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He did step up in the playoffs and provides a really nice look as a small-ball 5 or at the 4 — I expected him to come back and glad he did

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June 30, 2023 6:11 pm
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He’s almost assuredly only going to get better.

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June 30, 2023 3:29 pm

DrayMoron 4/$100
Jerami Grant 5/$160
Kuz 4/$102

I’m good with the two guys we’ve signed at their respective numbers. The three above mentioned contracts are absurd, glad MM took no part in any of that.

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June 30, 2023 3:44 pm
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Dray and Kuzma are reasonable given the roles they have on their teams. I haven’t seen much of Grant. Kuzma is in his prime, too, so the Wizards may end up with a bargain.

I would have preferred Kuzma here instead of Barnes, but it isn’t something for me to get angry about. I’m pleased with the acquisition of Duarte, who does a lot of the things that Dillon Brooks does when his head is right, at a much lower cost. I would have liked Brooks here, but this is better.

I am worried about next year, the Warriors, Suns, Clippers and Lakers are likely to be improved. Any of them, including the Kings, could end up anywhere from #2 to #6 in the conference. I’m leaving out the Grizzlies out because I had no idea how they will play losing Ja for 25 games and getting Smart.

Hopefully, Sasha comes over as well. For now, improvement for Murray, Mitchell, and possibly even Duarte will be a huge factor as to how well the Kings perform in the West.

Defense may be an enduring issue, but, if so, the Kings should be well situated to make a move at the trading deadline if necessary. After the sour taste of losing to the Warriors, I expect Brown and the players to have an edge upon arrival at camp.

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June 30, 2023 3:49 pm
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Oops, left out Edwards. He could be a contributor with a full camp with the team.

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June 30, 2023 3:50 pm
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I think Kuzma is a bargain relatively speaking. Expected him to be closer to 30/year. But he wanted to be a main playmaker and he’d be #3 or #4 on the Kings so we never even had a chance, even i Monte did want him.

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June 30, 2023 3:52 pm
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The market dried up pretty fast for him. Only a few teams were left to offer him that kind of money.

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June 30, 2023 4:05 pm
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and they did not, so he settled at the Wizards for 25.5 per year.

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June 30, 2023 4:09 pm
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He didn’t want to end up like Norlens Noel or Shroder.

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June 30, 2023 4:51 pm
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Don’t think duds improved.
Lost Poole- threw the ball away a lot but scored early and often. Lost DDV,
Got Saric and got CP3.

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June 30, 2023 6:59 pm
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Not to mention an upgrade from Holmes to Sasha. As much as I liked Holmes, he was dead money last year. If Sasha contributes anything, it’s an upgrade. The Kings core is in-tact. Key bench players are still here (Lyles, Monk), and they can upgrade their backup 4 with Sasha. If they find a backup 5 (with size), the roster construction seems about right.

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June 30, 2023 4:05 pm
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Kuzma is the most reasonable contract of the 3. At $160m, your paying Jeramy grant to be at least your 2nd best player and that is not going to get you even a chance at getting a ring. Draymond’s contract is one of those that are bad as soon as he signs it and only gets worst.

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June 30, 2023 4:14 pm
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It’s only 2 years, but Brown getting 22.5 a year from the Pacers was my biggest double take so far. Glad the Kings were able to get Duarte to free them up to do crazy shit like that

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June 30, 2023 7:52 pm

Yeah this is pretty confusing, I’m not even sure they got the better player but def the more proven one, that’s what being a gamer when it matters will get ya

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June 30, 2023 5:24 pm
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I remember Kevin Garnett getting something like $100mm+ for 7 years. Times have changed.

The real winner is and has always been, inflation.

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June 30, 2023 8:56 pm
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Remember when David Thompson was the 1st 800K player?
it was crazy that time!

now Van Fleet at over 4OM/year?
crazy

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June 30, 2023 8:32 pm
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Those numbers are derelict.

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June 30, 2023 3:30 pm

5 years/160m for Jerami Grant? The Trailblazers are the weirdest franchise in the NBA.

Someone in PDX was reviewing past free agencies, read about the 2016 salary cap spike year, and said hold my organic free trade hemp infused wild marionberry IPA.

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June 30, 2023 3:31 pm
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Crazy, I thought he’d get around $25 per, but $32 per is just insane. Good luck building around Dame with contracts like that.

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June 30, 2023 3:55 pm
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i think Dame has come to accept that his NBA legacy is going to be a Blazers’ all time great scorer and fan favorite.

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June 30, 2023 5:51 pm

Dame is the Charles Barkley of John Stocktons

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July 1, 2023 1:13 am
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Wut!?!?

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June 30, 2023 4:06 pm
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That does seem like an absolutely insane contract for Grant. Surprising also that he got about 30% more than Kuzma, and an extra year. Portland had a pretty nice draft, and it seems like they’re painting themselves into a contract like that for your third or fourth guy.

I guess if they trade Lillard for picks, that gets things back under control.

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June 30, 2023 4:25 pm
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If they trade Lillard, it makes it even a bit more egregious, I think. That is a lot of money for a guy his age on a rebuilding team.

On any team, really.

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June 30, 2023 4:26 pm
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Grant keeps getting paid to perform on crappy teams. Must have the best agent.

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June 30, 2023 5:57 pm
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Dame spoke, and Grant got paid. Giannis spoke, and Middleton got paid. Fox has already spoken, expect Monk to get paid next.

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June 30, 2023 3:34 pm

Fakers only offering Reaves 4/$52, I think he’ll get a much larger offer than that.

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June 30, 2023 3:42 pm
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I think that’s all they could offer him

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June 30, 2023 4:06 pm
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it is their max offer

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June 30, 2023 4:11 pm
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I see. I’m sure they’ll match any offer Reaves receives anyways.

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June 30, 2023 4:16 pm
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I hope a team pushes his salary sky high

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June 30, 2023 3:39 pm

Love Davion as a person but I hope we can move him and sign Delon Wright for a value contract.

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June 30, 2023 3:47 pm
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Please, no. If Davion can make more of his wide open 3s, he will be a strong presence during the playoffs. He is the only King that can erase an opposing team’s scorer.

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June 30, 2023 3:56 pm
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He makes it tough but he’s not erasing anyone and he’s undersized.

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June 30, 2023 4:27 pm
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Davion played tremendous defense against Curry in the playoffs. Few have made him work so hard for shots, and held him to such a low percentage. But he couldn’t stay on the floor because he couldn’t consistently hit open 3s.

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June 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Now, get me Plumlee or Londale, bring over Vez, add maybe Dennis Smith Jr. and make an offer for Thybulle after Portland shelled out $160m for Grant.

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June 30, 2023 4:03 pm
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I want Plumlee if only to have another big body on the roster, practice, and can play within the system.

I’m starting to wonder about Sasha coming over with Barnes and Lyles re-signing.

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June 30, 2023 4:07 pm
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In some Balkan languages, “Veznekov” means “big fish in a little pond.”

Get over here, you coward!

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June 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Alright! Welcome back Trey!

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June 30, 2023 3:50 pm

Sure seems like a lot of free agents are staying put.

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June 30, 2023 3:56 pm

3/$126 for Kyrie.
Good luck to the Mavs with that lol.

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June 30, 2023 4:08 pm
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I’m reading this twelve minutes after you posted it, and he’s already asked for a new GM or a trade.

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June 30, 2023 4:16 pm
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The good news for the rest of the NBA is there’s a good chance Luka demands a trade next offseason.

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June 30, 2023 4:44 pm
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The Chosen one to Sacramento Confirmed.

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June 30, 2023 4:53 pm
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why wait?

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June 30, 2023 7:59 pm
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It sure feels like it’s a players league 42m a year for a guy that may or not even show up is certainly baffling, but man when’s he’s right that 60% of the time he’s a baller, Mavs had to do it couldn’t lose him for nothing and risk then losing Luka who actually cares about winning.

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June 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Would like to give Bamba a shot. Potential to be a good rim protector and decent stretch 4ish. I believe it could work

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June 30, 2023 4:16 pm

I just posted about Moe Bomba, I’m actually hoping that Orlando releases or buys out Isaac

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June 30, 2023 4:19 pm
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im with you about Isaac, could have a really great 2nd half of his career while staying healthy in Sac, seen it before with other players in the past.
I would give Bamba a chance to start at the 4 next to Domas… ?

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June 30, 2023 4:16 pm

Getting him on a minimum might be better value than overpaying for someone like Plumlee or Wood. He’s a bigger version of Metu, IMO. Could easily be a backup to Sabonis at 12 minutes per game.

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June 30, 2023 4:15 pm

Chemezie Metu to the Suns. I’ll root for personal but not team success.

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June 30, 2023 4:28 pm
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Same.

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June 30, 2023 4:24 pm

Gabe Vincent to the Lebrons at $33M over 3 years.

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June 30, 2023 5:49 pm
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Nice get by the Fakers. Awesome value contract.

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June 30, 2023 6:12 pm
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That one stings a little.

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June 30, 2023 4:27 pm

Sasha coming over, sign Mo Bamba as back up big, make offer sheet to Rui for the remaining cap space.

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June 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Not Rui… $17m is crazy and he’s overrated.

Would rather have HB for that

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June 30, 2023 6:14 pm
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Rui would be a HUGE come-up. Don’t expect anything that big, at this point.

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June 30, 2023 7:47 pm
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Especially for the spacing offensively.

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June 30, 2023 4:37 pm

Shit…Yuta to the Suns

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June 30, 2023 4:56 pm
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shit, shit.
and what is the word on Sasha?
is this a situation where if the Kings keep signing, they go over cap and use part of MLE on him but if they do not go over cap, they use the “room exception”? and, as a consequence, cannot announce anything?

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June 30, 2023 5:39 pm
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Suns also got Keita Bates Diop too

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June 30, 2023 5:40 pm
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Yeah, sneaky signing. Those two are some solid NBA wings.

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June 30, 2023 6:15 pm
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All that expensive talent attracts a lot of cheap talent.

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June 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Hollinger posted that PHX basically reached out to every decent role player offering them a 2 year vet-minimum with the chance of solid minutes and a bunch are jumping at it. Here’s my takes so far:

Sucks that we lost out on Yuta
Kuz deal makes sense for Wiz and we weren’t getting him for that, so I think this was a net positive.
Glad HB and Lyles are returning
Grant Middleton Brown Poetl and Green deals are bonkers. Especially JP and JG
Interesting that HOU and SAS are so quiet so far. I imagine that SAS sign D’Lo and HOU sign FVF.
I hope Austin Reeves gets a bigger offer so LAL has to eat it.
I don’t know how I’d feel about SAC going after Miles Bridges
Kyrie deal makes sense in a vacuum, and you can’t lose him for nothing, but…
I’d have loved to get NIckel Walker-Alexander

Depending on the money I’d love to kick the tires on some of the following guys:
Wood, Lopez, Mo Wagner, Seth Curry, and just any perimiter defenders or rim protectors who slot well next to or behind Domas.

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June 30, 2023 5:24 pm
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those all sound like solid ideas

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June 30, 2023 5:51 pm
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Bridges, Wood, Brook.
I’d take any of the 3.

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June 30, 2023 6:17 pm
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Yeah, for sure, but, as an avowed optimist, it still sounds a bit optimistic, at this point.

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June 30, 2023 6:19 pm
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Maybe Wood…C’MON Monte!

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June 30, 2023 5:45 pm

Holy smokes. FVV to Houston on a 3 year $130M deal! That’s crazy money.

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June 30, 2023 5:54 pm
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$43 mill a yr for FVV lol. I like the fit but that’s $25 million a yr player

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June 30, 2023 5:58 pm
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There’s a minimum, they had to spend.

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June 30, 2023 8:06 pm
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Goodness!!! That leaves Raptors without a guard now, seems like Houston overpayed to steal him, makes sense to make a move now while all the talented rooks are in those cheaper deals, start teaching them how to win.

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June 30, 2023 6:20 pm

Is there still room to sign a mid-level sized deal?

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June 30, 2023 8:10 pm
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Yes, from this point forward they have one more small to medium deal they can make before they go into a cap team and start using all the tools, after day one and the dust settles they’ll bring in a Big and a another legitame point guard is my guess aside from Sasha.

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July 1, 2023 4:50 am

For the 3rd PG, I think Monk/Davion/Jones fill that role. All they really need to do is bring the ball up court and pass to Domas. The offense runs after that with team ball movement.

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June 30, 2023 6:23 pm

Kings running it back is not a bad thing, Monte betting on continued progression of Fox, Sabonis and others. Was hoping for more upgrades though because we got really lucky with injuries last year. Getting Sasha would be big. I wonder if Monte is just not interested in some of these bigger free agent names or if the Kings just still aren’t seen as a desirable place to go.

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June 30, 2023 6:38 pm
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It seems to me Monte isn’t interested in taking any big risks, and why should he be? The Kings WAY outperformed expectations. They can take a step back without his seat becoming too hot. Everyone wants the team to progress in a straight line, but it doesn’t work that way. Staying the same, or even marginal improvement, likely means slipping as everyone around them re-tools, and improves. If they struggle out the gate, and improve at the deadline, just in time to make the play-in, then advance to the semis, that’s a lot better than winning 55, and getting bounced again in the first round.

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June 30, 2023 9:34 pm
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Yup. Progress isn’t a linear thing.

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June 30, 2023 7:25 pm

I take this as very good news!

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June 30, 2023 9:21 pm

Tyrese got himself quite the bit of a pay raise:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674995296839892992

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June 30, 2023 10:33 pm
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Well deserved. Love Tyrese’s game. He’ll be a great if he stays healthy.

But this is why I think Tyrese and Fox couldn’t work.

Denver won it with Jokic, Murray, Porter, Gordon, Bruce Brown, Kcp.

A team that chemistry wise fit like a glove. Jamal Murray is more scoring point, so having Jokic be the focal point was fantastic.

Tyrese needs the ball to be great and so does Fox. Having both on the same team would minimize each other unfortunately.

Who ends up being a greater player is something I am very interested to see because they are both so great and there is no clear cut better player.

But why I’m so bullish on the Kings running it back is our roster is eerily similar to the Nuggets roster except that Sabonis is “only” an multiple all star caliber while Jokic may end up an all time top 20 great.

If we can see improvement on Keegan Murray/Sabonis and Barnes/Huerter playoff performances then I feel we can take it all the way. Big “ifs” but not improbable.

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June 30, 2023 9:39 pm

So far a whirlwind.
Most of the players Kings fans were enamored with signed big contracts elsewhere. Reid, Rui, Kuz, Middleton, Draymoron, Poeltl, etc. The only remaining big names are Wood and Brook and Dillon Brooks?
There were some outrageous signings- FVV, Jerami Grant etc.
Apparently Kuz wanted more than the 4/102 that he got and wanted a bigger role. IMO a good idea to pass on that- chemistry and HB + Lyles was less than that per year.
I like the get lots of talent approach. The big 3 or 4 seems risky and when all these big 3 teams fail (all but one) then they will not be able to rid themselves of the huge contracts and the new CBA will get them. How will the Suns, LAC, LAL, Wolves and duds be able to dismantle what they have.
Getting under the cap allowed MM to have flexibility. It seems that now he will not use the extra money to sign DS to an extension. But the other avenue is to use up the remaining cap space become an over the cap team, lose that flexibility but get the MLE and bi-annual, instead of the room exception. In any case, I think this is where Sasha’s money comes from the room exception is the 2 year plan.
The goals were to get help for DS with rim protection and rebounding, get some length on the wing, get a third and larger PG and to let go of Holmes. Kings are about halfway there. Holmes is gone but there was a price but that move resulted in Duarte. So is Duarte better than OMP?
Jones is a bigger combo guard. Kings did not lose any of the top 8 or so. Sasha will fit in well and add.
Still need some athleticism- is Duarte + Edwards enough? I wanted Yuta.
Rim/rebounding- IMO Lopez too expensive- but most of the teams now are over the cap , kings still under, most have spent too much on FA, many are un-balanced and there are still quite a few cheap alternatives out there. Powell, J. Hayes, Yervetskin
Remember last year’s centers were DS + Holmes + Len + Q + Metu. almost anything is better than that.
There is still room and time for one more significant move, for Sasha and for some minor fill in’s.
As the dust settles, the deals for HB and Lyles were market or under market.

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June 30, 2023 11:43 pm

Very happy about this.

I think one of the things the Kings showed last year, is the value of having decent too good NBA players available at all times. There were no significant drop-offs (outside of the C position).

Keeping Lyles and Barnes, plus adding Duarte, would mean last year’s rotation is intact AND improved upon, with some money left to get another player (or two?).

Things are looking pretty good.

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July 1, 2023 7:01 am

What’s the hold up with Sasha?

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July 1, 2023 7:04 am
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July 1, 2023 7:05 am
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675141296254492672?s=20

Sasha Vezenkov – a 6-foot-9 reigning EuroLeague MVP – has agreed on a three-year, $20 million deal with the Sacramento Kings, his agents Mark Bartelstein and George Roussakis of @PrioritySports
and Nick Lotsos of Team Lotsos tell ESPN.

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July 1, 2023 7:11 am
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Hell yeah! Great signing.

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July 1, 2023 7:13 am
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In Monte we trust!

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July 1, 2023 7:04 am

Other than Sasha and a left field Brook Lopez signing, the main work is done. Decent signings. Let the dust settle and pick up the best back-up Big on a league minimum deal – there are a ton of them available – always are. And that’s about it right?

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July 1, 2023 7:10 am

By my calculations, once they get a back-up big, they’ll have the top 10 inked (starters last year plus Davion, Lyles, Duarte, Edwards + Big). If the resign Queta and Ellis and pick up Sasha, that’s 13. Leaves 1 or 2 spots.

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July 1, 2023 7:49 am

Great to have Lyles returning!

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