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Let's chat about Monte McNair's introductory press conference, his vision for the team, what moves he may make, and whatever else is on your mind!

Welcome back to Chainmail!

The last 24 hours have certainly been interesting for the fan base, as we've been formally introduced to Monte McNair through several interviews and his press conference. Will and I are here to chat about our first impressions of McNair, his vision for the team, his relationship with Luke Walton, what moves he may make in the offseason and throughout the 2020-2021 campaign, draft prospects, trade targets, player evaluations, and whatever else is on your mind!

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1951
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September 24, 2020 12:15 pm

McNair likes Buddy. Buddy likes Philly.

Does he stay or go?

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September 24, 2020 12:22 pm
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I think, like any good GM, we don’t really have any idea what McNair really thinks about any specific player. He’s presenting every player in a way that makes them feel good and makes them look good to other teams. As he should be.

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September 24, 2020 12:55 pm

I think from an analytics standpoint, McNair would absolutely love Buddy next to Fox. The problem is how Luke uses him. I wonder if McNair interjects and tells Walton how to use Buddy properly

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September 24, 2020 1:30 pm
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So you’re saying analytics is only about offense?

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September 24, 2020 2:05 pm
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As RikSmits suggests, I think this may be over-simplifying the idea, definition, and impact of “analytics.” Analytic analysis would absolutely love Buddy in terms of the spacing he provides. But analytic analysis may not be kind to him in terms of the playmaking, defense, overall impact, and value to contract.

I would also point out that McNair could very well like Hield, but still think the best path to building a competitive team includes trading him.

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September 24, 2020 2:39 pm

Good points, I guess I was focusing more on the misuse of Buddy by Walton. I makes me wonder if he would hang onto Buddy and tell Walton to play to his strengths to “showcase” his talents before moving him.

I agree in tradeing him and love that idea of sending him to the Hawks in a Huerter package.

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September 24, 2020 2:58 pm
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Maybe, though I’ve said before that I don’t think this season hurt Hield’s stock around the league at all. I think FOs know who and what he is and how they would use him. So I don’t think a few months of playing to his strengths would make much of a difference.

I think it’s a case of us being WAY to close to the situation. Buddy was an elite shooting specialist before this season. The Kings tried to see if he could be more than that. He couldn’t and just went on being an elite shooting specialist.

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September 24, 2020 7:11 pm

Everybody needs to read this. Buddy’s value didn’t change this year. We just now know exactly what his ceiling is as a player. The only thing I’ll add is if I was in charge of a championship contender I wouldn’t want to trade for him unless I had a strong culture that would not tolerate Buddy acting like he did this season. He constantly acted like he was bigger than the team. You can’t act that way if you’re simply an elite role player.

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September 25, 2020 12:48 am
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Agreed! I love Buddy but this past season he is starting to act as someone who puts himself first rather than the team. I would happily trade Buddy for a pick in this upcoming draft.. Aaron Nesmith, Sadiq Bey, Vessel or even Isaiah Joe who I’m starting to really like as a player. I would happily spend one of our 2nd round picks on Joe. Has a really smooth stroke, reminds me a lot of Booker..

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September 25, 2020 2:41 am
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You nailed it. I haven’t been able to articulate my dissolving love for buddy. I like buddy Hield, I was one of the fans that loved trading for him and loved signing him long term last summer. He has star potential.

his attitude €œconstantly acting like he was bigger than the team€ is what has turned most of us off to him as a player. It’s sad actually.

if he can reflect and adjust his attitude in combination with Luke changing how he uses buddy on the court then we could get the good Buddy back. Buddy Love!

the way Luke used him still frustrates me.

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September 25, 2020 8:49 am
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Agreed – and it will be interesting to see how Walton uses him this season. And I am curious how much of Buddy’s usage was due to Walton’s idealized way to use him versus pressure from the FO, which now should be much more analytically inclined.

It’s not really that hard to see easy fixes to Buddy’s offensive value. Did a quick comparison on Synergy and it matches every single eye test we all had.

In 2019, Buddy had 26% of his possessions in transition and 19% in spot up situations and was 70th and 80th percentile in those situations (percentile in points per possession for those unfamiliar with Synergy). Meanwhile, he only had 16% of his possessions as the P&R ball handler where he was a poor 30th percentile.

In 2020, Buddy had 19% of his opportunities in transition and 17% in spot up situations, while having 26% as the P&R ball handler – where he improved, but was still only 63rd percentile.

Even in transition, his usage was worse, he went from being the ball handler in transition 31% of the time to 44% of the time, which is a part of his game that still needs significant development.

In a world where Duncan Robinson is playing an important role on a potential NBA finals team, its not hard to see that Buddy can still be very valuable. But we need to use him much, much better this season.

And if he wants to earn a more diversified role, he needs to show some major improvement in his ball handling and decision making running an offense in more limited opportunities to earn more.

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September 25, 2020 10:12 am
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As I’ve mentioned before, I don’t actually mind the way he was used. Maybe they tried it for too long after it was clear it wasn’t going to work, but the Kings were a team desperate for playmakers. Obviously, if one of those playmakers can also be an elite shooter, it opens up a lot of possibilities and causes a lot of problems. So, while keeping Hield to his specialist role would likely make his numbers look better, I don’t think it would have made the team any better. Whereas, if Hield were able to take on some playmakers duties, it would have made the team appreciably better.

In short, I don’t mind the experiment. I just think the procedure was flawed. Buddy has always been a pretty reactive and mechanical player rather than an instinctual/anticipatory one. Which is always going to limit playmaking potential.

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September 24, 2020 12:23 pm

Which Gif best represents your present mood:
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September 25, 2020 2:47 am

theres 2. The first one with the cartoon kids €œwe wait€ and then The Dude.

I’m highly anticipating the next move while knowing I have zero control and that this shit really doesn’t matter.

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September 24, 2020 12:26 pm

How much flexibility does McHale have, vis-a-vis, with his FO hires? Honestly, I see a cash strapped team who can’t afford the best employees to support a very impressive GM. Do you have any insight to what the Kings can provide for the new VP?

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September 24, 2020 12:29 pm
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McWho?

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September 24, 2020 12:33 pm
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The McWho: McDonald’s worst idea ever.
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September 24, 2020 1:13 pm
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September 24, 2020 2:08 pm
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Why do you have to be so flippant? You know who I mean. C’mon Rik. Stop picking the bones, you’re better than that.

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September 24, 2020 2:18 pm
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You took a viable question and smudged it to worthless garbage. Why? You can’t disagree with the overall premise; I know you from 7 years of comments. Stuff like this wrecks the average fan’s confidence to ask average questions. You might think it’s a cute joke, but it might stop a fan from interacting with their community ’cause they got auto-corrected and shamed. That’s really silly. Sorry I’m not a username you’re used to seeing.

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September 24, 2020 2:43 pm
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September 24, 2020 2:56 pm
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I concede. I was a little fragile. Sorry community.

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September 24, 2020 3:07 pm
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My two cents:

It’s good to know if we hurt your feelings or not, so I don’t think you need to apologize for anything.

My other two cents:

I think the “group of regular posters” gets along because they feel like they can joke around with each other….like make fun of Rob’s lack of pants, or Greg’s penchant for ruining other people’s marriages (actually, I don’t know if that’s true–Greg probably hates us all), Will’s love of Lady Bird, Rordog’s dietary choices, LaBradford’s credit card, etc. Heck, if you really wanna get Rik back, just make a joke about the Cleveland Browns! (sorry, Rik!)

Hope you are doing well, Gabriel. 🙂

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September 24, 2020 3:09 pm
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Where is that LaBradford guy, anyway? 😉

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September 24, 2020 3:11 pm
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September 24, 2020 3:12 pm
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September 24, 2020 3:19 pm
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McWho?

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September 24, 2020 3:24 pm
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I’ve never made a bad dietary decision FYI

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September 24, 2020 3:28 pm
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I stand corrected 🙂

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September 24, 2020 3:43 pm
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THAT certainly sounds like a matter of perspective. 😉

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September 24, 2020 7:19 pm
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I got all excited and texted my lady friend I had perfected a hot pocket recipe. She didn’t really understand perfecting a recipe in which the main ingredient is frozen food that costs less than a dollar. I felt a bit like those geniuses who aren’t acknowledged for their genius until like a century after they’re dead.

(I went air fryer on the pocket to roast the garlic crust. Then, I topped it with marinara sauce, red pepper flakes and Parmesan and did a quick broil)

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September 24, 2020 4:00 pm
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You should sell the McRordog to McClown Burgers!

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September 24, 2020 3:10 pm
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Confession:

I did laugh at Rik’s response, but I wasn’t laughing at you, and I don’t think Rik meant to personally shame you. We just have a kind of silly culture here that likes to laugh at the Kings and at ourselves sometimes.

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September 24, 2020 3:44 pm
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I’m just messing with you. Rik is the worst.

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September 24, 2020 4:02 pm
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We’re on to you, Otis. We know you and Rob and 1951 are all the same person. And now, it’s obvious you and Rik are the same person as well, and this faux-critique of Rik is proof of that and will not throw us off the trail.

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September 24, 2020 4:24 pm
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The only things Dutch about me are my Dutch Ovens!

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September 24, 2020 5:22 pm
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Well, to tell a family secret, my grandmother was Dutch.
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September 24, 2020 4:30 pm
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You’re going to be pissed when you realize you’re living in MY simulation.

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September 24, 2020 9:17 pm
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i should have been banned from joining this site, if I am honest.

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September 24, 2020 8:42 pm
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As my tiny Polish grandmother Francis used to say…

€œFor Pete’s sake Marty, grow a pair.€

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September 25, 2020 7:32 am
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What’s Pete gonna do with ’em?

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September 24, 2020 9:14 pm
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Are we good?

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September 25, 2020 2:58 am
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It was a slight over reaction but I get why you were annoyed.

it kinda killed the question.

moving on. . .

i cant answer your question but we’ll see soon enough. I’d anticipate two more main hires. After that is anyone’s guess. I don’t think it’s necessary for him to have a blank check to hire whoever he wants and as many people as he wants but more depth would seemingly be nice. It’s reassurance, that’s what you’re fishing for with wanting more front office people. The bigger the team the more prepared and qualified the operation. In theory.

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September 24, 2020 12:28 pm

What is Bagley’s likely trade value at this moment?
Is he healthy?

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September 24, 2020 12:59 pm
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I haven’t found a single report on his current health status. I was wondering the same thing just the other day. Doesn’t camp open up in about 2 months? Will he be ready?

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September 24, 2020 1:32 pm
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Yeah, me neither.

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September 25, 2020 4:47 am
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Last I heard, he still only has 1 hand, so there is that.

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September 25, 2020 8:12 am
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Shaq is helping him with his free throws using the off hand.
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September 25, 2020 10:28 am
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Send him to GS for their 2nd pick and our 12th and WHATEVERTF else they want. Draft Wiseman. Trade Buddy and Barnes to Philly for Harris, Richardson, and their 21st.

I will say this everyday dammit.

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September 25, 2020 10:37 am
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Why would GS do that deal? If they move the 2, which I expect they will, the player they get back will be someone that can help them now. Bagley doesn’t really do anything for them.

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September 25, 2020 4:40 pm

Are you kidding? Bagley in an actual system that works, competent coaching staff, the list goes on. Fucking Kevon Looney was starting at one point. Why not get the former #2 pick and pick up a a 3 and D with our 12th pick. The are not rebuilding. They are retooling. Bagley would thrive as their starting 5 and they know it. He has all the room in the world to go to work.

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September 25, 2020 10:29 am
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Oh and fire Luke. WhyTF is he still the coach. Wtf.

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September 24, 2020 12:34 pm

What would it take to get the organization to give Luke Walton the dreaded “vote of confidence?” I’m good for $5.

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September 24, 2020 12:57 pm

Given that most of here think Walton is on the hot seat and may be gone by the next deadline, who do you want to see as his lead assistant/future interim coach?

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September 24, 2020 1:28 pm

How will we react if Walton stays on beyond next season?

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September 24, 2020 2:57 pm
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I’m saving up for Black Friday so I can be prepared for such an occasion. (Have to replace the TV I lost from draft night, 2018)
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September 24, 2020 3:11 pm
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“You are tearing me apart, Kings!”
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September 24, 2020 3:44 pm
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They took ALL the guts out of that thing. Those tv’s weight approximately 500 pounds.

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September 24, 2020 4:06 pm
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I remember the days when I had to get up and walk to the TV to change the channel. There were only 3 or 4 channels then, but still!

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September 24, 2020 4:39 pm
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I remember messing with the horizontal and vertical hold buttons so I could watch the PPV…uh, boxing matches.

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September 24, 2020 5:39 pm
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Yeah. I remember sitting in front of the TV and twisting the dial quickly back and forth between plays, so I could watch both games.

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September 25, 2020 9:46 am
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In shag carpeting both ways!

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September 24, 2020 8:47 pm
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On the closeup, there are no electronics in that €œtv€. 🤪

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September 24, 2020 2:59 pm
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That really depends on what happens between now and then.

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September 24, 2020 5:47 pm
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It’d depend on how the Kings do next season.

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September 24, 2020 1:43 pm

What is Vlade doing right now?

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September 24, 2020 3:47 pm
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September 24, 2020 2:24 pm

Within about two weeks of being hired by the Bulls, Karnisovas picked up his wing-man in Eversley. How long do you think McNair will take to hire his lead assistant? Are any names being mentioned to fill that spot, or is Peja irreplaceable?

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September 24, 2020 3:00 pm
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Isn’t Catanella technically the Assistant GM? Maybe he hires some other guys, but I think Ken is his #2.

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September 24, 2020 3:05 pm
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Obviously it changes from place to place, but he may have multiple direct reports/Asst GMs with Catanella and others in the same organizational tier.

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September 24, 2020 3:18 pm
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I would have thought that Catanella should have been Vlade’s #2, but I seem to recall reports at various times of Brandon Williams and/or Peja holding that position. Add to that that there were reports of the Kings bringing in both Gupta and McNair, leading me to believe that Catanella would not automatically be considered as the lead assistant. As BHE notes, I suppose it all depends on how the Kings and McNair want to structure things.

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September 24, 2020 2:54 pm

The 2021 season is over. McNair has been at the helm for one year.

What would you call success?

What would you call failure?

What signs would give you hope?

What signs would concern you?

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September 24, 2020 3:06 pm

A clear plan with moves the rationally advance us along that plan’s path.

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September 25, 2020 7:43 am

What if it’s a really bad plan?

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September 25, 2020 10:14 am

At this point, I’m not sure there are any plans worse than what we’ve been dealing with.

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September 24, 2020 2:55 pm

Is Walton a deadman walking/limping or McNair really needs more time to evaluate him? One of McNair’s biggest strengths is his ability to work with coaches in Houston. Judging from Walton’s past with the lakers, I have no reason to believe Walton can develop any young players or utilize the veterans he already has.

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September 24, 2020 3:23 pm
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I think Walton is gone at some point. Mcnair may have worked with D’Antoni. But, Mike was already a good coach and a proven winner in Phoenix before coming to Houston. D’Antoni had very little success grooming young and low talent teams like the Knicks and the Lakers for a couple years after that. Walton only got the job in Sac because of his BFF with Vlade. No other team in the league would have hired Walton as a head coach at any point. He’s not proven. Failing with A Lebron on your team is a Kiss of Death. Even Tyrone Lu won with Lebron.

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September 25, 2020 3:13 am
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i Don’t like Walton the coach after one season. He did really bad.

would another team have hired him if the kings didn’t? ABSOLUTELY 100%. Somehow Luke became the €œdarling€ of nba coaches. That light had dimmed a bit when he was let go but it was far from out.

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September 24, 2020 3:17 pm

If the Kings were featured in the trending game AMONG US, in which some of the crew are impostors, which people besides Shaquille O’Neal who is obviously a Trojan Horse for the L*kers, are impostors? My money is on L*ke Walton. But who else?

Same question, but for TKH staff (or staff and commenters, if you like. Who among you is an impostor?
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September 24, 2020 3:28 pm
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Definitely Vivek. Planted by the Warriors to keep their northern CA counterparts irrelevant.

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September 24, 2020 3:39 pm
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!!!
That makes perfect sense, actually. But I didn’t want to say it out loud and get disappeared.

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September 25, 2020 7:38 am
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September 25, 2020 8:04 am
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Maybe Jerry West’s most savvy move as an NBA exec. Convince Vivek he has an opportunity to run his own team… thereby removing him from meddling in Golden State. With the added bonus of killing the Kings for the foreseeable future. One less divisional rival to worry about while building their dynasty.

Would make a great Game of Zones episode.

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September 24, 2020 3:24 pm

Who do you think we could replace with Luke, or is it too early to tell? (i.e., we will have to see who is looking for a job when that time comes)

If that’s too hard to answer, who do you think are the best coaches in the NBA? Maybe like a top 5, and what are your answers based on? (What they’ve accomplished with available roster talent, ability to manage big player personalities, ability to take a team to the next level, etc.)

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September 24, 2020 4:29 pm

Who’s the best coach we can hire ATM if they ever decide to let go of Luke Walton? Billy D’s out as Chicago got him ASAP.

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September 25, 2020 10:34 am

Was definitely my pick.

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September 24, 2020 5:11 pm

Should Becky Hammon be at the top of our coaching search list (when it happens)? She has been learning under Pop, has the respect of the players, & has a high basketball IQ.

Also, since she would be the 1st female head coach, it seems like a feather Vivek would want to put in his cap (and make for an easy PR transition away from Walton).

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September 25, 2020 3:16 am
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I would love it if they hired Becky!!!

yes please.

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September 25, 2020 7:49 am
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I think she’ll make a great head coach, but I’d always have questions if she were hired by the Kings, the same questions I have about anyone who brags about their charity donations or volunteering.

The fact that we would never definitively know if Vivek hired her partly for PR reasons or not would bother me, and unfortunately, that’s just a part of being a fan of this current Kings organization. That, of course, is just one part of the awful organizational reputation this team has. If it was the Spurs or Mavericks or Nuggets, wouldn’t think twice about it. But these Kings?

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