Welcome back to the mailbag! Y’all had lots of great questions – let’s dive right in!
From RikSmits:
Greg is gone and the TKH have yet to hear from Aykis, who is doing his best Vivek impressionation. What about some accountability?
How will the staff fill Greg’s void, what is the direction of the website?
Is it true that Aykis constantly rewrote Greg’s articles?
And what about the rumors that Ziller returned as an external advisor?
Will there be a day where I’ll only have to log in once?
And what about the Monarchs of the TKH website, the Z button? Forever lost, or will it some day return?
Tim: I know some of these questions are a little silly, but there are some legitimate questions or concerns that we’re going to continue to address throughout the offseason. Until then, I’ll try to take them on at a high level.
” Greg is gone and the TKH have yet to hear from Aykis, who is doing his best Vivek impersonation. What about some accountability?”: Akis is missing because he broke his hand the day that Greg broke the news to the rest of us. I assume he punched a wall in anger or smashed his hand on a ceiling fan as he jumped and cheered in celebration – I haven’t been told which of those is accurate. As he recovers, he’ll engage more with the site, but he’s quite literally physically restricted in his typing right now.
“How will the staff fill Greg’s void, what is the direction of the website?”: This is probably the most critical question of the bunch. In general, we’re not going to change a ton. Several of us will increase our output (me included), and we’re also going to look at some simplification and specialization. For example, we’re going to focus more on analysis, grading, editorials, and conversation, and we’ll dedicate less bandwidth to the “grind” of the site (multiple game-day posts, obligatory articles, etc.). To be clear, there will still be space for those things, but we’re transitioning a little away from a true sports site and back to our roots as blog-esque – for the good or bad.
The other piece of the puzzle, and to be very honest, something that will help the rest of the crew not burn out as this team and organization continues to falter, is additional writers. If you’re someone, or you know someone, who’s a decent writer who wants to talk about the Kings, let’s have a conversation. Hell, if you know a journalist major at Sac State or something, send them our way.
And the “z” button is a very complicated, very expensive addition, so maybe, one day, perhaps, maybe – if someone wants to sponsor that particular endeavor – feel free!
Will: Basically what Tim’s saying is: less previews and more “What If Vlade Is Right?” style pieces. What could go wrong?
From outrider:
What’s the path forward? Retool around the keepers (Murray, Ellis, whoever you think is a keeper) and try to move any/everybody else? Trade everybody and start over?
We’re not bereft of talent, but I don’t know what to do with what we’ve got moving forward.
Tim: I would blow every bit of this team up or throw it away or dump it in a river or whatever else I could do to essentially flush it in the toilet. We are bad. We are old. We are weirdly expensive. We have very few extra draft assets. We are the worst version of slightly below mediocre imaginable.
But the Kings aren’t going to do any of that, as evidenced by Scott Perry’s presser and Vivek’s playoff-money-grabbing ways. With that truth in mind, here’s what I would do under the “can’t blow it up” mandate. First, I’m trading Malik Monk. After the Fox deal, there was some hope that Monk would be unlocked in De’Aaron’s absence, but he took a nosedive instead of thriving.
Post February 5th, Monk scored 370 points on 331 field goal attempts. He shot 42% from the floor and 31% from deep. He dished out 122 assists to a whopping 74 turnovers. There was quite literally nothing good about his game. Of players who attempted 300+ field goal attempts in that span, he ranked in the 11th percentile in accuracy. He was 9th percentile among players who attempted over 125 three-point field goals.
I don’t see a future in which he helps this team win, nor does he fit between DeRozan and LaVine. Add on the fact that he likely carries the most value of those three, and he’s gotta go. I’m targeting young length or a much larger package for a starting point guard.
After Monk goes, I try to move DeRozan (that’s much harder than people want to admit) and try to build a core around my new starting point guard, hopefully a new wing with some length, LaVine, and Sabonis. The Kings probably need to give out some additional draft assets (or Murray, who, to be honest, isn’t who we hoped he would be) in those deals, but I don’t see another path forward.
Will that plan work? Probably not – but that’s about best case scenarios with this current clown show of a regime.
Will: I’m getting nostalgic over here. Tim and I, sitting in a Chainmail, both agreeing that we should blow this team up and start over. We did it from 2019-2022 and we’re doing it all over again this time, both being sure to guard our hearts against the reality that it will absolutely never happen under Vivek’s watch. There’s no reality where we trot out Devin Carter, Keon Ellis, Keegan Murray, random forward and Domas (before being dealt)… a team that would hold teams to 85 points and score 75 on a nightly basis. There’s no two year reset and bounce back, certainly never going to be a Process level strip to the studs… and that’s fine.
The only way out of this mess is through. Scott Perry has laid out his Sacramento Kings vision as a team who is defensive oriented, plays extremely hard and relies on toughness. If he’s being serious, he’s got some work to do. The aforementioned Carter, Ellis and Murray are all in. Domas is tougher than a two dollar steak and plays harder than a diamond record.. defense isn’t really his strong suit so Perry will have to find a four to cover him, or trade him for someone better fitting.
And that’s where I think we get to building. I need, to borrow an oft-used Jerryism, a shit bird. I need a true asshole, someone willing to knock a guy on his ass on night one, minute one and let the NBA know, this isn’t last year’s Kings. I want to start this retool with a big helping of Detroit’s finest Beef Stew, Isaiah Stewart. He’s durable, he’s a decent deep ball shooter, he leads the team in blocked shots despite playing under 20 minutes a game and he’s mean as hell in a way the Kings haven’t seen since DeMarcus Cousins.
Next, if I’m Perry, I sit Sabonis down and I get candid. The whole league already thinks you’re dirty, the refs will NEVER give you the benefit of the doubt, voters will never put you into an All-NBA conversation for as long as the Kings remain as they are. So we’re changing the convo. Don’t lightly foul a guy, put his dick in the dirt. Don’t whine from afar to the ref, get in his goddamn face. If they’ve cast you as the villain, don’t try to win them over, prove them right. Sabonis won’t ever block a lot of shots, but a front court of The Ox and Beef Stew could steer people out of the paint in other ways. Lean into a play style that let’s Keon be the chaos monster that he is and Keegan as your do it all, utility defensive guy. Oh, and Keegan. Don’t ever smile. The long running gag to get you to break from your shell and emote? It’s cute and… its done. You might not be Kawhi Leonard, but you’re a terminator. Hit a three, do nothing, say nothing. Monk? If you’re happy being evil Bobby Jackson and talking shit as our sixth man? You’re coming too. You need a starting role or any other assurances? Thanks for the memories. Devin Carter? You’re shaving your head, and using the glare from that cue ball to blind the other team if that’s what it takes.
It’ll take more pieces than just Beef Stew and a sit-down talk, and I’m sure the comments can come up with some other guys that could defensively add to that tone, but…
Scott Perry has said he wants volunteers, not hostages. I want basketball terrorists. Get mean, get nasty and get the smell of whatever it is that died this season out of that arena.
From Adamsite:
Assuming an Assistant GM is next on the docket for Perry, the head coach search will likely follow before hopefully major roster changes are made this summer. Should the Kings remove the interim from in front of Coach Christie, does that give you cause for more concern to continued Vivek tomfoolery, or would you accept it as Perry’s decision?
Also, would you rather prefer to postpone the head coaching search until after Perry’s has a chance to restructure the team, then find the guy how can coach them?
Tim: I don’t foresee any realistic future in which Doug Christie is not the Head Coach of the Sacramento Kings. I imagine that was part of the messaging when the Kings approached Perry – he can pretend to look around and then land on Christie as the best candidate. And to be fair to Doug, he did a decent job with a shit roster, even if there are probably more qualified guys out there. Yes, it’s Vivek tomfoolery, but it’s perhaps not worst-case scenario Vivek tomfoolery.
If a legitimate coaching search were to happen, I would rather hire the coach first to understand what kind of players to pursue for their schemes.
Will: I think they’ve walked into a Kobayashi Maru here with the coaching situation. If Perry keeps Doug, as planned, we’re going to see it as Vivek influencing his GM already and its a sign of meddling to come. But, if (and it’s a big IF) the Sacramento Kings go another direction and hire a different coach, how many fans will say that they only did it because they knew our response was going to be poor to bringing Doug back and thus, they still don’t trust the new regime? Personally, I’d rather a new coach and Doug completely gone from the org. Vivek put him in a terrible situation last year, gave him a job he wasn’t quite ready for and I hate that for him. But outside of the Kings mobilizing an incredibly group of assistants that also aren’t better suited for the main chair and also don’t want to take Doug’s job… It’s a decent bet that Doug just won’t be ready to lead this team in the way it needs. In no way is that his fault. It’s Viveks, but them’s the breaks. He deserves to be with a franchise and staff that actually appreciate his talents and the time it will take to fully develop them.
I honestly am fine with it taking all summer for Perry to do a coaching search. If there’s coaches like Van Gundy in LA, Sam Cassell in Boston, Chris Quinn in Miami or Johnnie Bryant in Cleveland and Perry wants to wait on them, fine. If Frank Vogel or Budenholzer sound interested but want to see where Taylor Jenkins and Mike Malone go first? A-ok with me. Just… get it right. Don’t flirt with Mark Jackson. Don’t pull a Luke Walton and just flat out refuse to interview other candidates – take your time, weigh your options and find THE guy for the next 5 years. Break the decade’s long cycle, Scott. BREAK IT.
From SMF-PDXConnection:
Let’s say you’re the new GM of the Kings.
If you had to make one unexpected, unorthodox move (roster, coaching, front office), the kind of thing you don’t think anyone on this site or around the league would think you’d try, what out of the box move are you making?
Tim: I’m making a scheme transition, rather than a roster one – if you’re asking for truly crazy. Here we go: Keegan Murray is now my 1A offensive option. He’s running high-post possessions against smaller defenders and he’s getting the ball in movement against big men. He’s no longer a three-point shooter. He’s my go-to option. Play him like he was played in college and see what happens. Oh, and he’s no longer stuck defending the opposing team’s best player. We’re resting him for offense and offense only. The Kings are going to suck either way – may as well see if Murray can shoulder the team from time to time.
Will: Okay, I might get cooked here for this but you said unexpected. I’d swap Malik Monk and Domantas Sabonis to the Sixers for Joel Embiid and Jared McCain. I’d honestly do it straight up, but sure throw in a pick for us if we’re mad.
I think this is a win regardless of Embiid’s health. McCain comes back anything like he was as a starter in his rookie season, you’ve got yourself a point guard of the future. Oh you want him to play shoot guard? You have you’re shooting guard of the future. The kid’s a savant, he can play either position in my mind. If Embiid is out for the season for knee reasons? Great, there’s your one season tank command. See what LaVine gets you, see what DeRozan gets you. Any combo of McCain/Keon/Keegan/Carter can start or contribute off the bench, Isaac Jones gets a ton of run and the Kings find themselves at the bottom of the West.
If Embiid is capable of playing, I think McCain/Keon/LaVine/Keegan/Embiid with Carter/DeRozan off the bench is enough to be interesting. Not a title contender, but, at least more balanced than this season’s Kings with some oomph to vie for a Top 6-8 out West. Vivek gets a former MVP, it’s $2.9 million less expensive than Monk and Sabonis, and you aren’t screwing Domas and Monk either. Maxey/Monk/George/Oubre/Sabonis could be interesting back East, and the Sixers would go from a center playing 30 games a year to one play 75+ every season.
I’m probably overvaluing McCain, especially considering the Embiid’s health being so dire and his contract so heavy, but we’re taking risks in here today, baby and I’m feeling a little lucky.
Not sure we’d have to give up Sabonis in a trade for Embiid. That is the worst contract in the NBA right now.
I think Lavine + Monk could get you Embiid and McCain.
Embiid if healthy (I know a big if) is a decent frontcourt pairing with Domas. McCain, Ellis, Murray, Sabonis, Embiid starting.
I support all of your decisions to scale back the site. I imagine it’s mundane and time consuming to write a preview and recap for every damn game and every little piece of news. It’s likely not needed, especially when the members on this site talk about everything in the threads. Maybe just throw up a new discussion thread from time to time and preserve your efforts for opinion pieces and major news. The doldrums of summer are coming, so I really get it. Plus, stepping back from Kangz fuckatude for a bit could do us all some good.
I subscribe to every word of this comment. Quality over quantity.
Agreed. Use a basic template for pre and post game posts. Let the discussion happen in the threads. And I’d encourage the writers to participate more in the threads.
Keep some sort of new thread so the comment sections don’t get out of hand. When it gets over 75-100 comments, it mostly dies because of the lack of “new comment” identification: the Z button.
Spend your efforts on the fun stuff.
I definitely think these changes will lead to more writers in the comments and the discussion because we’ll have the energy and mental capacity to actually engage with something we felt compelled to write, vesus obligated to write.
Can we have ABB write some articles?
Embiid for Sabonis and Monk? That’s $115M invested with two oft injured players, Zach Lavine and Joel Embiid – neither who would want to be in Sacramento. Embiid is for another 3 years at $193M. Sabonis plays hard every play, wants to be here (mostly) with a nice estate in Napa, and is all about team, not himself (3 yr/$138M or a $55M difference). He is the anti-Embiid. And there is no back up big man in this deal?
I can’t think of a worse idea, so credit for coming up with this.
(I don’t care if Embiid ever plays again, and LaVine can be shipped off for peanuts. This was a tank move for a guy I’m high on in McCain, with some upside if Embiid becomes a cyborg)
I just don’t think Lavine is tradable for any positive asset.
Embiid might be one of the few contracts that is worse, due to the duration and injury history.
So could be a win-win if instead of including Sabonis, you ship off Zach and Monk… take on that massive Embiid contract and bring in a promising guard in McCain.
Philly would probably be ecstatic, as Lavine only has 2 years left on his albatross deal.
I think there could be teams out there that would value LaVine’s ability to get a bucket and stretch the floor as a 3rd option. Orlando comes to mind, and they could also hide his defensive inadequacies. They also have the contracts and assets to pull it off.
Just spitballing: LaVine for KCP, Cole Anthony, one of their prospects and one of their first round picks this year could get it done. It ain’t flashy but it gets the Kings a serviceable PG in Anthony, a prospect (da Silva?), and a pick. You’d have to eat KCP’s deal, but he’s likely movable to a contender at some point. Now that Fox trade translates a bit better with three first rounders a PG and a prospect.
I would take Cole, Da Silva, and KCP, along with a pick for LaVine. KCP would probably be the starting SG for the Kings, and he is fine.
Move off DDR for another younger wing and head in to the season younger, longer, and cheaper.
I view Lavine as a negative asset, which is why I could see him as filler in a trade for the current worst contract in the NBA… but that’s about it. I don’t think any team is going to give up real assets for him, especially any first round picks.
Maybe I’m wrong, and I would love that trade though!
You don’t think a team like the Warriors would want him.
I think LaVine’s trade value has been helped a bit by proving he was healthy and still capable of scoring at a high level after coming off that injury that held him to 25 games last year in CHI.
LaVine finished the year having played in 74 games this time around and shot the 3pt ball extremely well. His value isn’t back to its highest level or anything, but its in a better position than it was last year at this time with another year shaved off his contract (up in 2027). Just looking for the bright side here.
Thanks guys for the answers and for all you do. I for one enjoy the analysis/opinion posts the most anyway. The game recaps mostly end up being a vehicle for us commenters to vent. I appreciate the thoughts on what can be done within the constraints placed on the team by The Little Chap. I’d give Perry Exec of the Year if he could unload DeDribbler. How much of Fox’s discontent was Da First Bull taking away his and Sabonis’ ball handling time, and playing no D? We’ll never know. What a disastrous couple of trades.
Thanks for answering my silly questions.
Get well soon, Aykis. Rise the
hotbroken hand!Thanks Rik!
DMC was mean, but he’s not the kind of mean you’re looking for Will. He was selfish, mean to teammates and mean to smaller players on the opposing teams. He’d cuss you out if you didn’t pass it to him or “took” one of his rebounds. He was all about getting his.
You want a guy that is mean to the other team, has everyone on your team’s back and will do whatever it takes to win. That is nothing like what DMC was.
A Steven Adams type is who you want.
I was thinking a Steven Adams type as well…or dare I say, a Draymond Green type.
Yes, but he doesn’t always play well with teammates.
My biggest issue with Draymond is that he waits to turn a switch on until the last 10-15 games and into the playoffs. I know that can be seen as a positive – but I would tire of him running his mouth constantly while putting up 2pt, 4reb games in 30 min for the fist 3/4 of the season.
Just give me someone who competes hard 90% of the time.
Just to clear things up, I wasn’t suggesting the Kings get Green, just a type of player like Green. Brooks is another one. You hate to play against those guys and hope they get tossed, but having them on your team as thorn in the side to your opponent can be beneficial at times.
I just used him as an example of the last time we had a dude like that.
Adams is too old, Draymond too old. Look around at players left in the league of their ilk that would fit and I think Stew is the easiest to acquire.
With you on that!
Well so much for a real coaching search:
https://bsky.app/profile/shamsbot.bsky.social/post/3lnxnsrwiq22w
Well, I guess that answers my question. Great job on the coaching search, Vivek!
And my unrealistic fantasy of having JVG as our next coach and Doug as his assistant to learn the ropes dies…
ugh.
why does Klutch sports have their fingertips on everything.
Enjoy the upcoming season-and-a-half coach Christie – until someone meddles and you are replaced for no apparent reason..
It’s like they have grasped or seized everything in the NBA tightly!
Just wait until LBJ retires a buys an expansion team…the Las Vegas Klutch
Honestly, I don’t think it really even matters at this point. Even if (insert HOF level coach here) was coaching this team, how far would this coach get based on the roster as currently constructed?
I get that you want a guy that’ll set the cultural tone for the team/org, but talent is the trump card imo and we don’t have enough!
DC just got the HC gig.
And…we’re off.
Feel free to read deeply into that.
Greg leaves and then we can’t even get a Doug Christie banner!
Thanks for answering my question. I think at this point, I’m open to trading anybody IF 1) it makes the roster better from a talent/asset standpoint and 2) is actually part of a larger plan to make the team better. No BS stuff like Domas for Poole or Kuzma type players and some 2nd rounders.
Beautiful mention of the double log-in (will it ever end?), the fact that Keegan really hasn’t been that great (he’s pretty good), and Monk’s complete meltdown (will they even be smart enough to trade him? probably not).
I I really like hearing from Tim and Will, this team definitely needs more villains and Sabonis should embrace it. This blog is really the only benefit to being a Kings fan…nice arena and city tho.
Thanks for doing the mailbag and for giving us all a jump-off point for discussion and no worries on less daily articles, we appreciate all the work you do and I think its reflected in the strength of this community.
Hoo-boy, what a way to start. Suggesting that you need to throw in Murray in order to trade DDR is a pretty poor use of assets regardless of whether or not you expected something more from Murray, at least IMO.
To that point, I personally disagree with the assertion that he isn’t what “we hoped he would be” because he is actually more than I hoped for when he was drafted. I never thought he would be as good a defensive player as he is and he is still getting better year over year.
One of my reasons for disagreeing is that I don’t hold his draft position against him. I actually didn’t have much hope for that draft class as a whole is at was bereft of multiple star players (outside of Paulo and Chet). With that said, I think there is a guy from that draft that is gettable that I think he is someone the Kings should go after and that is Jabari Smith. He is due for a new contract soon and he is playing less and less as the season/playoffs move along, especially now that the Rockets are going to a two-big lineup more often with Adams & Sengun. Thompson and Eason are also eating into his minutes more and more.
I think an Ellis/Smith/Murray core is something to build off of. Domas can work with that lineup and LaVine slots into the SG spot; you run the offense through Domas for a while. I could even see Domas getting traded and inserting JV into the C spot until a younger player could be found to fill it long-term and then using Domas to find a starting PG. LaVine could be shipped out in summer of 2027 when his contract is expiring.
Adding a solid wing-player with length and a 3pt shot (players like Jabari Smith as mentioned above, or Trey Murphy or DeAndre Hunter) would give Perry options to rebuild on the fly while keeping a core of productive players together. Its not a core of All-Stars or anything, but it gives you roster flexibility, a youth-movement, more length on the wing, and room to grow. This would be my initial plan and I’d adjust accordingly to new realities as they present themselves.
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