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Richaun Holmes Staying In Sacramento On 4-Year Deal

This is a huge win the Kings.
By | 242 Comments | Aug 2, 2021

Mar 29, 2021; San Antonio, Texas, USA; Sacramento Kings center Richaun Holmes (22) shoots in the second half against the San Antonio Spurs at the AT&T Center. Mandatory Credit: Daniel Dunn-USA TODAY Sports

Free agent Richaun Holmes is re-signing with the Sacramento Kings on a four-year deal worth up to $55 million, according to Shams Charania.

The deal reportedly includes a player option and a trade kicker. The trade kicker is likely where the extra money would come in, as the Kings were limited to using Early Bird Rights to keep Holmes.

This is a great win-win for both the team and Richaun. The Kings couldn’t afford to lose Holmes, and including some player-friendly elements helps to add value for Holmes even when the Kings couldn’t exceed certain dollar limits.

Holmes joined the Kings two years ago on a low-cost deal as a backup center and quickly won the starting job, as well as the love of Kings fans. It’s fantastic that he’ll be staying in Sacramento.

This is also a win for Monte McNair, who didn’t make cost-cutting trades at the deadline and gambled that the market wouldn’t price him out of retaining Holmes.

The Kings still have their Mid-Level Exception available for additional free agent signings.

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1951
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August 2, 2021 8:15 pm

👍

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August 3, 2021 8:45 am
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So, have we traded Buddy/Bagley for Harris or Simmons yet?

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August 2, 2021 8:16 pm

Ditto.

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August 2, 2021 8:16 pm

Works for me. Fun guy to root for, and glad he got paid.

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August 2, 2021 9:11 pm
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It amazes me that a comment like this gets down votes.

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August 2, 2021 9:13 pm
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I’m pretty sure it’s Monte McNair who is down-voting everyone, just to keep us in check.

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August 2, 2021 11:27 pm
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Huge fan of the Holmses… is this phonetically correct?

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August 2, 2021 11:57 pm
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TKH staff needs to add a 1000 down vote badge so we can see who these shiftless, asshat, wankers are.

Congrats to the Holmes family on a very special day for them.

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August 3, 2021 1:38 am

I downvoted this to protect the rights and privacy of those who have nothing of value to say, and so take a tiny dump on some of what does.

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August 3, 2021 2:48 am
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Of course you did you’re Andy sims.

Whatever gets you through the night.

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August 3, 2021 12:10 am
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I don’t like the downvote option and think TKH should do away with it.

It used to be when one would criticize a comment you had to explain yourself. There was dialogue. Logic won out or it was trolling.

The downvote opens the door for trolls/troll like behavior and negativity-anger. It is anti-discussion and humor, which is what makes this site great/different from others.

Seems like some of the downvotes are personal-disliking the poster, It all creates a negative vibe I never associated with TKH.

.Oh, and good they kept Holmes.

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August 3, 2021 5:59 am
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I am not sure I agree, there will always be some guys that are petty and downvote because they don’t like the commenter; however there are not a lot of them so I think you can get a feeling of which comments truly are disliked. Plus I like to read the crazy hot takes that get lots of down votes. Would even say that certain people get up votes for comments based off of reputation even when they comment may not serves it.

With that said I gave an upvote even though I did not agree because your opinion is a good one,and if people acted like the twitterverse then I would agree because there are some serious trolls there. TKH has a pretty solid group of commenters that will usually hammer trollish behavior, or even those that fall too far outside of the norm

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August 2, 2021 8:17 pm

Welcome back Holme, Richaun!

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August 2, 2021 9:44 pm
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All my Holmies love Richaun

jswilliams37
August 2, 2021 8:17 pm

Good day so far

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August 2, 2021 8:18 pm

Thank you Dr. Holmes and Mr. Holmes.

The Kings get all three Holmes in this deal and that is an excellent outcome for Kings Fans.

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August 2, 2021 8:44 pm
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Seriously. Who the heck will thumb down this?

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August 2, 2021 8:51 pm
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No worries Comments_….Tonight we all are Holmes’s. Really happy they are all Kings again, they are the epitome of Family.

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August 2, 2021 8:52 pm
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Preach!! And a thumb up for ya

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August 2, 2021 8:55 pm
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Holmes Sweet Holmes!

(I wonder if anyone had to mow his lawn?)

Yeah, the Holmes’ parents on twitter make Kings wins so much more fun to celebrate.

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August 2, 2021 11:54 pm
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Team Bagley

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August 2, 2021 8:18 pm

very nice.

Now use that MLE or trade for a larger wing.

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August 2, 2021 8:26 pm
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hahahahaha the downvote got me

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August 2, 2021 8:18 pm

We won! ….We won right?

Last edited 2 years ago by TerzoM
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August 2, 2021 8:18 pm

I love you Richaun! Thank you for staying!! Well deserved contract for the Holmes family.

Well done Monte. Still waiting for the Bagley and Buddy trade(s) please!

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August 2, 2021 8:19 pm

Me after reading the first half of the tweet “Richaun Holmes has signed with….”
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August 2, 2021 8:20 pm

Next up for MLE or S&T (Now that we are hard capped because we used the BAE):

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August 2, 2021 8:25 pm
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Markennen or Tobi harris please

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August 2, 2021 8:26 pm
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Bagley + Buddy trade for Harris, with filler(s) on both sides to make the money balance? I’m down.

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August 2, 2021 8:27 pm
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yes sir! I’d honestly do the same offer for Lauri Mark

More injury prone but he is on the Fox/Hali timeline and obviously a skilled dude

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August 3, 2021 1:40 am
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Gotta be cheaper guys we can get on the timeline who will also be out of the league in a couple of years.

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August 2, 2021 8:29 pm
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Markennen is sitting there like a plum right now isn’t he Mike?

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August 2, 2021 8:32 pm
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yes he is…and a sign and trade generally is going to require less assets going back to them

Could be straight up Buddy for Mark tbh

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August 2, 2021 8:37 pm
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I would not give up more than Buddy and would ask for a pick in return to be honest. Markennen has a lot of upside still. He has skill.

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August 2, 2021 8:49 pm
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you aren’t getting a pick imo, but I think buddy straight up works pretty well

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August 2, 2021 8:55 pm
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I like Buddy, he is an elite shooter. He had his best season not being pushed outside of his fairway under Joeger and being held to a performance standard. Having said that you may be right, however I think Buddy would garner a pick in exchange for Markennen. In the end, Anne it is a second….and the flexibility of the ability to get a player that can compliment the other players rather than they having to compliment Buddy.

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August 2, 2021 8:58 pm
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Auto Wrong strikes me again. Anne = maybe.

BTW, I voted a thumbs up. Who can downvote your comment. Has to be a Laker fan…

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August 3, 2021 6:02 am
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if Buddy would accept a super sixth man award I think this team would be so much better, and I think he would light it up. If he doesn’t want that then by all means trade him. I was for the buddy and Bagley for Harris but think I would be down for Markennen

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August 2, 2021 8:21 pm

Nice work Monte

they have some legit size at the 5 now

we already knew this but Marvin Bagley is gone baby gone

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August 2, 2021 8:24 pm

This doesn’t mean anything for Bagley lol

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August 2, 2021 8:27 pm
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Lol

ok

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August 2, 2021 8:28 pm

they literally play different roles on the team

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August 2, 2021 8:42 pm
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Literally?

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm

yes sir

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August 2, 2021 9:04 pm

Indeed. Marvin helps keep the training staff up to date on their CME credits.

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August 2, 2021 8:22 pm

Looking forward to watching Holmes for seasons to come.

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August 2, 2021 9:03 pm
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Dewayne Dedmon and his two burner accounts downvoted this.

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August 2, 2021 8:22 pm

That’s a freakin bargain deal. Still one of the most undervalued guys in the NBA.

This is Monte’s best move yet.

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August 2, 2021 8:30 pm
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Outside looking in…

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August 2, 2021 8:40 pm
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It’s definitely not a bargain deal.

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August 2, 2021 8:51 pm
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Nerlens noel got a little over 10 million a year. Holmes contract is under value to fair.

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August 2, 2021 9:23 pm
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12 mill a year is not a bargain? . They’ve been giving thar to Ariza and Cojo. It’s an absolute steal

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August 2, 2021 10:37 pm
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Looking at a list of other signings today, it sure feels like one of the better valued deals. Devonte Graham signed for just a bit less, Doug McDermott getting 3 yrs with more per year, Evan Fournier got 4yrs, $78 mil?

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August 3, 2021 2:54 am

Exactly. Tbh, I think fournier was overpaid, even. I know his shooting is valuable but i feel his defense is very poor. I don’t like paying that much for guys who only do a couple things well

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August 3, 2021 2:53 am
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It’s a good deal imo. This guy is a very impactful player on offense and is at least serviceable on defense. Great teammate, energy, etc. This is a very fair contract to me

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August 2, 2021 9:11 pm
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For a career 9-5 guy, who literally had one good year in a contract year.

I like Holmes. But outside of his scoop shot, high energy and attitude. He’s also undersized, a very avg rebounder, and definitely can’t stretch the floor.

if that’s Monte pinnacle, that’s real telling.

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August 2, 2021 9:24 pm
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Dude…look what he signed for. Freaking Kelly Olynck (sp?) got like 3 for 37 m. This is great value. Epitome of great for both sides.

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August 2, 2021 9:30 pm
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Olynyk is a decent player, not sure that’s a good example. He just does different things than Holmes.

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August 2, 2021 9:33 pm
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Compare Olynck’s RPM to Holmes, then again there’s a lot of stupid money being thrown around.

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August 2, 2021 9:48 pm

I did, Olynyk was 0.95 and Holmes was 0.94 last season.

Different players, but they both add value.

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August 2, 2021 10:46 pm
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That’s precisely my point to Kingsguard. Using Olynyk’s contract as evidence that the Holmes contract is a bargain is a poor argument. Different players adding about the same value in different ways. Also pointing to one poor contract to justify another poor contract is also a weak argument. These contracts however are not as bad as some of the others for example Fornier getting 78 mil over 4 years is a massive over payment.

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August 2, 2021 9:26 pm
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He’s the team’s best defender by far. His offense has dramatically improved. He plays hard as hell. If that’s not worth 12 mill in today’s NBA, I don’t know what is

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August 2, 2021 9:32 pm
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I think it’s decent value and Holmes does some nice things. But his defense is overstated. He “anchored” one of the worst defenses in recent NBA history.

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August 2, 2021 9:34 pm
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Have you actually seen him man up on guards and small forwards when he gets isolated on them? Best on-ball defender on team and its not close

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August 2, 2021 11:02 pm
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If you acknowledge he had one good year (past one), then he really has had three. The last 3 years his per 100 numbers and efficiency are pretty damn similar. Lots of advanced metrics too. If you only want to give credit for time he was starter, fine. But the last two years he was about the same.

So it’s not like some outlier year.

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August 2, 2021 8:23 pm

Woohoo!

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August 2, 2021 8:23 pm

I’m happy for Holmes, as he seems to be a genuinely good guy. Hopefully we’re not sitting around trying to figure out how to move him a year or two, as we’ve been accustomed to doing with our free agents.

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August 2, 2021 8:25 pm
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If he stays healthy, that shouldn’t happen. Holmes’ game is all about hustle and the dirty work, and that makes him a good asset no matter the coach or system. The deal is cap-friendly, too–not an overpay by any reasonable definition.

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August 2, 2021 8:27 pm

And of course this means we get more Dr. Holmes tweets!

https://twitter.com/DrLydecia/status/1422392620672856076

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August 2, 2021 8:42 pm
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Sign the good Dr. to be the parent Twitter coach.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm
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Team Doctor.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm
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Like a twitter baby sitter, or something rather?

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August 2, 2021 8:56 pm
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Could teach a particular someone a few things…

https://twitter.com/TimMaxwell22/status/1345535103275921408

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August 2, 2021 8:28 pm

This is a great piece of news, but at the end of the day, the Kings’ needle is about where it was at the end of the season. Len doesn’t change things. Harkless was already here. I love Richaun, but we still need a BIG move to take things to the next level. Come on, Monte, you can do it!

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August 2, 2021 8:30 pm
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Yeah the moves so far are mostly about keeping things level. Possibly more if Mitchell is good.

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August 2, 2021 8:59 pm
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I predict Mitchell will do good things.

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August 2, 2021 9:04 pm
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I have no idea. He’s taking minutes at a position of strength for this team, so if he’s a normal rookie, it’s quite possible the team is worse in the short term.

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August 2, 2021 9:09 pm
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If they retain Davis and Buddy, there’s likely very few minutes for him to take. He’d basically be in the Kyle Guy role.

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August 2, 2021 9:10 pm
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I’m guessing (hoping) he’ll help us on defense, which we’re not strong at. But yeah, I understand the doubt about rookies.

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people must not like you. you keep making sense and getting downvoted for it.

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August 3, 2021 1:43 am
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You get used to it.

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August 3, 2021 8:43 am
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5 down votes for that? I’m starting to feel like that post about a negative vibe or retaliatory energy towards certain posters is more accurate than I had thought. Kinda weird to down vote this 5 times is all I’m saying.

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August 2, 2021 8:31 pm
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Buddy, Bags, and top 10 protected ’22 1st for Tobi Harris

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August 2, 2021 8:40 pm
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That is too much. Don’t give up that pick. Buddy straight up for Markennen.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm
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I would prefer that deal for sure.

I do think if we got Tobi for buddy and bags we would have very very very slim chances to be picking top 10

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August 2, 2021 9:04 pm
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I know Tobi is over paid but I would do this deal in a second.

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August 2, 2021 9:11 pm
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Can’t disagree with that Michael. Wouldn’t this be the third time he played for the Kings.

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August 2, 2021 9:11 pm
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Absolutely. Tobias can get his own bucket better than Barnes, to have them both with Fox and Hali would give us another go to scorer with De’Aaron in crunch time. We still need a better coach for defensive schemes and intensity though.

But that potential 2nd unit is solid defensively- Davion, Davis, Harkless, Metu-Woodard, Len.

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August 3, 2021 1:44 am
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Trade a guy who doesn’t miss games, for one of the softest players in the league, and overpay to boot? Nah.

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August 2, 2021 8:53 pm
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Totally agree and that deal is not too much. I’d probably do less protection than that. This team needs to get better. Harris isn’t going to make this roster a playoff threat, but it’s not unreasonable to think he would make them a lower tier playoff team.

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August 2, 2021 8:40 pm
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Len>Whiteside. The end of the year roster was better than the start of the year roster. There has been constant, albeit marginal, improvement with almost every deal. Keep making marginal improvement over and over again and eventually you’re in the mix.

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August 2, 2021 8:47 pm
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I’d say Len vs Whiteside is a wash everywhere but age and the all-important likeability factor. Neither bring much to the table on the court, at this point in their careers.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm
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Yes, in 2028, by my calculations.

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August 2, 2021 8:57 pm
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Sooner than I anticipated!

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August 2, 2021 9:09 pm
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Agreed, the team has taken a couple marginal steps forward. But to be taken seriously any time soon, they need to take a big step now. Marginal steps get you 1-3 extra wins per season. Big steps get you 7-10 wins (or more), and that is what the Kings need to genuinely be a playoff team and not a “maybe they can sneak into the play-in” team.

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August 2, 2021 9:13 pm
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You marginal steps might not even get you 1 to 3 more wins, depending on how the rest of the West improves.

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August 2, 2021 9:16 pm
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We now have 15 guards, 12 centers and 1 forward. Let’s go!

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August 2, 2021 9:17 pm
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Unless a big trade is coming, I don’t see
much change in W-L.

So, far this is moving deck chairs. Nothing else. Holmes is back. Len and Harkless are back. If that’s your strategy, then expect similar results next year.

i will also not be shocked if Bagley and Hield are still here come Oct.
People are deluded thinking a package of Bagley, Hield and Filler will net a difference maker.

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August 2, 2021 9:21 pm
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Perhaps you are deluded to think the market for Hield is complete poo poo?

I want a nice trade for a Wing but keeping bags and buddy could be worse.

The lineups with Buddy at the 3 were fine, so rolling with what’s currently signed would definitely have us in the playoff race, I think with a solid shot at getting in.

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August 2, 2021 10:23 pm
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Kings missed the playoffs (#8 seed) by seven games. Three new bench players in Mitchell, Thompson and Len are going to move this from a .430 team to a .530 team? From 31-41 to 38-34?

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August 2, 2021 11:03 pm
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Plus hali second year, moe full year… System continuity, yes I think it could be the year we crack .500

Even with the worst coach in the league

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August 3, 2021 1:47 am
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Continuity with a “system” like Walton’s is just stepping in the same pile of dog shit over and over.

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August 3, 2021 9:09 am
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Yes but doing it much more effectively 😂

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August 3, 2021 10:33 am
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I don’t think this roster gets anywhere near .500, especially with Walton. But I think (hope?) there are more moves in the pipeline, and my hope is it ends up being something better than the original Hield deal.

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August 2, 2021 8:30 pm

Really happy for him, and us! Good dude on a reasonable deal = win.

All right Monte, keep on truckin’ and find new homes for Buddy and Bagley!

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August 2, 2021 8:30 pm

Things aren’t done so no final eval yet, but I would say so far so good for Monte. Calculated the market for Holmes well, got solid if unspectacular bench players without overpaying (opposite of years past).

Hard part probably is to come…Buddy, Bagley etc.

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August 2, 2021 9:12 pm
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No overpays so far this time, and no overpays last year, either. Monte hasn’t set the world on fire, but he has avoided making costly unforced errors. That, by itself, is very important. The best-run franchises don’t necessarily hit home runs or even get on base every time at the plate. They just avoid swinging the bat into their own face and wait for the other guy to screw up.

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August 2, 2021 8:33 pm

Hey they did something good that I like! That’s nice.

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August 2, 2021 8:33 pm

Egg on my face with my last comment, but happily so. Way to lock up Richaun, Monte! Gonna enjoy that trademark flip shot for a good long time. Now let’s get a starting F in exchange for Buddy!

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August 2, 2021 8:34 pm

Been waiting for this all day, glad it’s done!

Let’s forget about trades, what’s the best couple of forwards that are available with the MLE?

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August 2, 2021 8:53 pm
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i just checked sportrac, really really slim pickins

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August 2, 2021 8:58 pm
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NCAA & NBA champion Justin Jackson is available.

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August 2, 2021 10:44 pm
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Don’t forget “former #15 overall selection in the 2017 NBA draft” and also, “world champion!” lol

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August 2, 2021 8:34 pm

WOOHOO!!!!

I know we didn’t really improve our roster much at all from last season, but Richaun Holmes is a joy to root for, so I’m very happy he’s on the Kings again. I hope to someday yell and stomp for him at G1C (or Staples) as he hustles his ass off and makes an emphatic block.

Dance thread?!

I’ve got dance in my pants!

(best dance song and dance video ever)

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August 2, 2021 8:42 pm
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Perfect Kosta.

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August 2, 2021 9:06 pm
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I was waiting for the dance gifs!

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August 2, 2021 9:07 pm
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Dance!
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August 2, 2021 8:35 pm

Definitely glad Monte could get this done. I did not think it was in the cards. More reason to love Holmes. Can we back out of the TT trade now? Hold on to Len and find a new home for Bagley, Buddy and Delon.

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August 2, 2021 8:36 pm

The Kings had some solid lineups last year and lacked defense and depth. Some of that was addressed with Harkless, Wright, et. al. at the end of the year and there were some positive results. They have further bolstered their lineup with Len and Mitchell. Hopefully they keep Wright now and back out of the TT deal. I’m pretty OK with the idea of hoping for further development of Fox/Hali, a solid contribution of Mitchell, and a bench improvement from Len, Harkless, Wright, Mitchell compared to Cojo, Whiteside, Belly, and a bunch of round 2 scrubs. I may be in the minority but I think that betting on development of Fox and Hali, and the improvements to the bench and defense leaves room for optimism.

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August 2, 2021 8:37 pm

Hell to the yes! Glad you are staying Richaun. Make Len the back up, let Queta develop in Stockton and keep D Jones for emergencies. Nix the TT deal, let Whiteside walk. Give the PF spot to Metu and let Barnes stay as the SF.

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August 2, 2021 8:43 pm
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yes nix the Thompson deal, yes let Whitseside go, no don’t keep Jones, and lastly Metu is nowhere near a starting NBA player yet.

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August 2, 2021 8:50 pm
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I like this, Mike!

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August 2, 2021 9:05 pm
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I’m just going with what we have now. If we can upgrade PF, then certainly do it.

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August 2, 2021 8:51 pm
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no no no to the Metu thing…S&T for Markennen, Buddy straight up

Fox, Mitchell
Hali, Davis
Barnes, Moe
Makennen, Bagley
Holmes, Len

I really think thats a top 8 team in the west

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August 2, 2021 8:55 pm
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That’s a very thin front court.

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August 2, 2021 9:01 pm
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because of injury I assume? Otherwise it’s not at all

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August 2, 2021 9:12 pm
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Bagley and Harkless just don’t bring much to the table. If we’re talking about making a run at the 8th spot, they’d need to slide one more spot over in the depth chart.

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August 2, 2021 9:23 pm
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agree to disagree, I think Moe and Bags as your backup 3 and 4 are very solid.

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August 3, 2021 1:20 am
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Moe’s probably solid as a backup, but Bagley’s really inconsistent. I really wish Wright had been traded for a decent F instead of Thompson. That would’ve really helped the depth chart.

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August 3, 2021 9:19 am
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Ideally, Harkless is more of a 3rd stringer at both forward positions. In that roster, Barnes is still your only reliable forward you can rely on to put in a positive shift.

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August 2, 2021 9:22 pm
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Buddy for Marken. Hate to tell you this. But, that ain’t happening. Even with Markennan, how many games do you think he’ll play. He’ll miss 20-30 for sure. Like every year.

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August 2, 2021 11:08 pm
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So an improvement over the current starting power forward then? ; )

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August 3, 2021 1:50 am
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Was going to downvote this, but the ratio is already brutal.

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August 3, 2021 9:11 am
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Often on this site that’s a good thing

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August 2, 2021 8:43 pm

Very fair deal for both sides…glad we didn’t overpay and still glad he got paid. This is awesome…now some MLE or trades.

Has the team drastically improved-probably not…but will they be more fun to watch and play better defense-hopefully.

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August 2, 2021 8:45 pm

Yes, this is a good move. Credit to Monte where credit is due.

Happy to have Holmes and his mother back!

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August 2, 2021 8:51 pm
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FoR oNCe I’M oK wITh ViVEk’s MEdDLiNg!

(I don’t know how to do sarcasm font here on TKH. Has anyone made an official font yet?)

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August 2, 2021 8:46 pm

OT: have to also feel good for Derrick Rose who has come all the way back and was rewarded for all his hard work rehabbing to get a good contract from the Knicks today after finishing 3rd in the 6th Man Award last year. Good on you Mr. Rose. Long health on you.

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August 2, 2021 8:47 pm

Glad they retained Holmes. Seems like a fair value deal, and would have set the team back had he not been retained. I’m hoping there’s more to the Thompson deal than we know, like another team gets in the mix and the Kings end up with another asset.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm

Sorry Nerlens…… best of luck in finding another team to overpay you.

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August 2, 2021 9:17 pm
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He already did…

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August 2, 2021 9:19 pm
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I would have been fine with Noel as a fallback option for Holmes.

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August 2, 2021 8:48 pm

this is good news! maybe we can have nice things?

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August 2, 2021 8:50 pm

Great news! I thought Richaun would stay but didn’t know if his price tag would exceed the Kings’ grasp.

So is Terence Davis the next signed with some or all of the MLE? And aren’t there more players signed than roster spots?

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August 2, 2021 9:09 pm
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I’ve been hoping Davis would just quietly disappear.

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August 2, 2021 9:19 pm
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I think he likely will via an S&T for a future 2nd or a project. Barring somebody offering a 3/20 or above, which we hopefully won’t match.

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August 2, 2021 8:57 pm

Great job Monte and congrats to Richaun, you deserve it.

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August 2, 2021 8:57 pm

THIS IS GOOD!! THIS IS HOT FLAMES GOOD!

(Like many others, I am a huge Richaun fan)

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August 2, 2021 8:58 pm

Gotta say…to the “Monte failed at the deadline for not dealing Holmes for 1-2 second round picks” crowd and you know who you are : ) … this is why you don’t do that.

If you have intention/desire to sign him, even if it isn’t a foregone conclusion you will, you don’t deal him just to “get something” because he might walk for nothing. It was the right choice then, even if he ended up signing somewhere else today. Monte calculated the market well and guessed the EBR might be good enough. It worked out in his favor on this occasion. The cost/benefit was way more than whatever assets they might have got at the deadline.

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August 2, 2021 9:08 pm
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Maybe? This is IMO a bit of an overpay, but certainly not egregious.

And I think a lot of the doubts were predicated on “if” he was unable to re-sign Holmes.

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August 2, 2021 9:25 pm
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I mean he got him for the EBR to my understanding. The trade kicker only kicks in if they trade him and only on the remainder of his contract. Not sure how that is calculated into the cap figure.

If Jarret Allen got 20 mill and Olynk got 12+, Theis got 9, this doesn’t feel out of line. Like I think you said before, (maybe someone else sorry if not you) doesn’t seem like it will ever be a albatross type contract barring injury.

Monte doesn’t get the benefit of making the decision at the deadline based on knowing the end results. To be fair we should all evaluate in the moment under the circumstances in which he has to make that decision. Not 3 months later after results and then say, what an idiot.

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August 2, 2021 9:41 pm
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No, I don’t expect it will be. And if it is due to injury, that’s just bad luck.

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August 2, 2021 9:18 pm
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Gotta say…to the “Monte failed at the deadline for not dealing Holmes for 1-2 second round picks” crowd and you know who you are : ) … this is why you don’t do that.

Bit of strawman. You deal the player if you’re not going to re-sign him. Obviously the intention was to re-sign Holmes, and they did, so there was no reason to deal him.

The failure would have been losing him for nothing.

It was the right choice then, even if he ended up signing somewhere else today.

Disagree. It was the right choice because he re-signed. It would have been the wrong choice had he left.

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August 2, 2021 9:23 pm
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Yeah I would contend you don’t get to quarterback it afterwards based on the results. Monte had to make a decision at the deadline. If you feel that was the right decision at the deadline, as you point out, you don’t then get to say it was a failure because he walked for nothing.

I think you have to evaluate the decision at the deadline on a cost/benefit type analysis. Not that it would have been a failure if he left.

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