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NBA Trade Deadline Open Thread

A couple big dominos have already fallen, we'll eagerly wait to see if the Kings make a move.
By | 258 Comments | Feb 9, 2023

Nov 15, 2022; Sacramento, California, USA; Brooklyn Nets forward Kevin Durant (7) holds onto the ball after a foul call against the Sacramento Kings in the first quarter at the Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Cary Edmondson-USA TODAY Sports

The NBA Trade Deadline is today at 3 PM ET, 12 PM PT. This thread will service as a place to discuss any and all deals and rumors as they happen. If the Sacramento Kings make any moves, we’ll of course cover those individually.

Unfortunately it seems we should have posted this thread last night, because of the biggest dominos in the league has already fallen, with the Brooklyn Nets trading Kevin Durant to the Phoenix Suns.

This has huge implications for the Western Conference playoff race, and we’ll spend more time analyzing the potential impact to the Kings once all the dust has settled today.

Among the biggest names expected to move today, the Raptors seem destined to trade OG Anunoby, and Phoenix will try to move Jae Crowder.

The Kings seem likely to pursue a trade to upgrade the bench unit, having been connected in rumors to the likes of Matisse Thybulle, Mason Plumlee, and Nerlens Noel. The Kings have also been rumored to be actively shopping Richaun Holmes. I’m hopeful Monte McNair can pull off something good even if it’s just a small upgrade to improve the bench.

It should be a fun day. Stay tuned.

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February 9, 2023 7:43 am

I unplug last night around 9:30 and shit goes crazy. Gonna be a fun day.

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February 9, 2023 7:50 am
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Glad you did. I was at a bar when I saw the Woj bomb. A long day at work (at least it wasn’t hard) and a few beers later and I was on my way home. But I think my mind was racing more from the Durant news than I was from the 3 light beers I had at BJ’s. LOL

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February 9, 2023 1:22 pm
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BJs and Beer are awesome.. wait nvm beers at BJ’s not as awesome but still great

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February 9, 2023 2:25 pm
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Your filth is noted, and appreciated.

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February 9, 2023 9:37 am
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I was about to go to sleep around 10ish and then the Woj bomb happened.

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February 9, 2023 7:46 am

I’m shocked PHX gave up as much as they did for Durant. As good as he is, he’s going to be 35 before next season and hasn’t played in 70% of his regular season games since moving to Brooklyn. The Suns have this year and maybe next to win it all.

Nets, on the other hand. Have a bunch of great pieces and a ton of picks. I also don’t think they are done. If they are looking to move one of their many wings, it would nice for the Kings to pounce

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February 9, 2023 7:52 am
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I think giving up Bridges A) is bad and B) giving up a lot of picks which means you’re moving Devin Booker at some point to recoup that is also a difficult pill I’m not sure I’d want to swallow.

But that said, I don’t fear Phoenix as much as others do. If you take away the name power, I ask this: Who is the best defender on the Suns now that Mikal Bridges is (for the moment at least) in Brooklyn?

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February 9, 2023 7:55 am
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I guess Torrey Craig? Yeah, they are all offense and no defense at this point, just like Dallas.

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February 9, 2023 8:27 am
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Agree, big risk for Suns going forward . Is Durant ever going to be able to stay healthy for 60 games ? Doubt it !

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February 9, 2023 8:31 am
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is Booker? He’s missed more games than you might think over his career.

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February 9, 2023 9:26 am
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That is overlooked a lot when people talk about Booker. This is quite a gamble for PHX. Might look like the Laker trade for AD, they get a ring then go off the rails for a bit.

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February 9, 2023 9:35 am
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Is that worth it? I don’t know, I’m not especially enamored of the notion of winning rings. It’s often about luck as much as anything.

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February 9, 2023 10:27 am
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That’s exactly why they did the trade, to win a chip. That would be a successful trade in their eyes even if it was only one. What has Phoenix really got to lose, the team prior to acquiring Durant wasn’t going to get it done anyways. It was going to cost them bridges at the very least, and 4 unprotected firsts is a haul for Brooklyn but having KD on ur team is a game changer in the short term

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February 9, 2023 7:55 am
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I like the way Tim thinks…sometimes.

https://twitter.com/TimMaxwell22/status/1623711314534367232

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February 9, 2023 8:15 am
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Why send Barnes? I doubt the Nets will be aiming to win games. Could the kings not offer expirings and a young player plus picks? I guess it depends what the Grizzlies are offering.

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February 9, 2023 8:17 am

Barnes is expiring and will probably get waived.

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February 9, 2023 8:30 am

To make the money work, mainly.

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February 9, 2023 9:11 am
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I’d also ask for Mills or Sumner coming back to fill the point guard void.

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February 9, 2023 9:12 am
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Preferably Sumner.

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February 9, 2023 9:15 am
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Agreed, though I think with Mills we could save a pick for taking that $7m for a 35yo off their hands next season.

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February 9, 2023 9:12 am
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Give up ALL the assets and get Claxton thrown in too! I know, I know. Never happen for multiple reasons, but adding two smart elite versatile defenders…

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February 9, 2023 9:18 am

I’m not trading Nic Claxton after having already traded Jarrett Allen. There’s no guarantee you’ll find another big as good as Claxton is now.

Although, it’s not impossible. For the right return anyone is tradeable….

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February 9, 2023 8:06 am
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I thought the same thing. Seemed like a perfect example of win now and worry about the future when it comes.

Gave up a ton (imo) in pics and good players for an objectively great player who is on the backside of his career and as you mentioned, misses a decent amount of games a year.

I could certainly live with the Bridges deal Baby G proposed!

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February 9, 2023 8:08 am
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I think Durant is under contract for 2 more years after this one. He and Booker should be incredible together, I think they get 1 championship in the next 3 seasons.

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February 9, 2023 8:24 am
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Who plays defense for them? Who is coming off of their bench?

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February 9, 2023 8:29 am
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The depth and defense just got impacted, no doubt. They should be able to find some quality back-ups and defenders this off-season who will take cheap deals to play with these guys. But, keeping Booker, Paul, and Ayton while bringing in KD is a huge upgrade for the next 2-3 years.

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February 9, 2023 8:30 am
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They are banking on Booker/Durant to carry those lineup’s…and right now that’s Booker because Durant will be out for awhile.

I don’t get exaclty what makes Phx such an automatic title contender. It’s mostly name on the back of the jersey knee jerk reaction IMO.

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February 9, 2023 9:07 am
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This has that “new owner smell” written all over it.

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February 9, 2023 9:19 am
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Yep. New owners think they understand how to build rosters better than their GM’s do….

Ishiba and the other guy he’s partnered with will likely learn. As Woj said, most do.

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February 9, 2023 12:14 pm
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And PHX might be too far back when Durant is ready to play.

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February 9, 2023 10:12 am
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Who plays defense here?

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February 9, 2023 9:09 am
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You may recall that last summer, Durant had three full years on his contract, and demanded a trade. If things in Phoenix don’t go exactly to his liking, is there any reason to believe that he won’t do the same?

Contracts are meaningless to players at his level, other than their money had better not be late. Everything else is up for grabs.

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February 9, 2023 9:13 am
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100%, I said the same thing below in the comments. That is a major risk with KD. He is a total wild card. The wind blows the wrong way, he demands a trade.

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February 9, 2023 9:44 am
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I will never tire of this photo from a pre-season press conference.

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February 9, 2023 7:59 am

Gotta love a new owner.

Four first round picks, YIKES.

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February 9, 2023 8:07 am
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Right? Who gave up more, PHX to get Durant, or what Minny gave up for Gobert?

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February 9, 2023 8:10 am
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Phoenix because Bridges is the best player that either team gave up.

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February 9, 2023 8:24 am
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I agree that the Nets got a hell of a return for KD. But if we’re talking right now, I’d say KD is still the best player. However, Mikal is the best asset and would be better than KD in a few years — assuming he doesn’t get a Lebron type of renaissance.

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February 9, 2023 8:58 am
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KD doesn’t have the body type LeBron has.

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February 9, 2023 9:06 am
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His game would be more of a spot up guy as he ages.

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February 9, 2023 9:08 am
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I agree and no one does. Dude is a super soldier.

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February 9, 2023 9:20 am
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Yep, pretty much. Him and the Big O.

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February 9, 2023 10:03 am
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You and Jerry Reynolds or are you ?

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February 9, 2023 10:07 am
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Goodness no. I’ve never even been to Indiana for crying out loud.

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February 9, 2023 10:35 am
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Bridges isn’t even an all star yet. Any team trading for Durant would have to give up a piece like that.

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February 9, 2023 8:10 am
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The Gobert trade looks like a flop, so far… Let’s talk in a year about this KD deal. Hell, he might be holding his semi-annual trade demand tour in Feb 2024.

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February 9, 2023 9:12 am
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I like that in the middle to long term, Both Phoenix and the Lakers are likely to be very hamstrung in future efforts to put competitive teams on the floor. No picks or young assets to put on the table in a deal.

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February 9, 2023 10:47 am
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If the Suns win a ship then it was worth it same way the AD trade was worth it because LAL one a ship.

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February 9, 2023 8:07 am

I love living in the PST for trade deadline day. We’ll know everything by lunch.

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February 9, 2023 8:11 am

Who is expecting no trade from the Kings ?

I am not against no trade……as “Less is More”………..

We played well, and the team right now got good chemistry…………

Just don’t want to ruin the current team chemistry.

Also, I personally like the team don’t have any toxic contract at all.

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February 9, 2023 8:17 am

Richaun certainly isn’t a toxic player, but that contract is.

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February 9, 2023 8:20 am
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Everyone is happy and pleased that Holmes signed that “below market value contract” last year…kept saying Holmes gave the Kings a discount and stayed as a Kings…

Few months later, that contract becomes toxic…

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February 9, 2023 8:22 am

Totally agree, except for the part of Holmes giving the Kings a discount. All indications were he couldn’t get the money that he and his agent expected elsewhere. Seemed like a good contract at the time. Today, not so much.

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February 9, 2023 8:21 am
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It is not a toxic conract, good lord, it’s nowhere near that.

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February 9, 2023 8:27 am
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Yea, and I think the Sixers is a good destination for him. They’re probably thinking about it too. I hope if the Kings make a move for Thybulle, it would include Holmes for Thybulle and Korkmaz (assuming the contracts work).

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February 9, 2023 9:04 am
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Eh, there isn’t much smoke out there right now about the Kings doing a deal. That’s the big hope I’ve got.

Besides Jae Crowder just got moved to Milwaukee for 5 2nd rd picks. LOL

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February 9, 2023 9:07 am
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lmao 5 2nd rounders what the fuck

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February 9, 2023 9:11 am
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Brooklyn is probably going to save quite a bit of tax as well. I’m interested to see what the cap mechanics of this deal look like by the time the smoke clears. There’s not many clarifications yet on what that deal looks like for Milwaukee.

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February 9, 2023 8:13 am

We clearly need a defensive stopper to slow whoever is going off on the Kings turnstile defense on any given night.

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February 9, 2023 9:00 am
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Exactly!
Unless we’re counting on the Kings scoring 140+ every game, Monte needs to find a couple of guys who can play some defense.

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February 9, 2023 8:23 am

Just throwing it out there, but with the Nets blowing things up and amassing a ton of wings. I’d call on Ben Simmons.

Before you scoff, his price is at an all time low and he could play backup center, would be the best defensive wing, and/or backup PG. All positions of need for the Kings. Kings could find 25 minutes a night for him. Not sure how to make contract numbers work, but maybe get a third team involved.

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February 9, 2023 8:24 am
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Lol I was thinking about Ben Simmons as backup C as well

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February 9, 2023 8:44 am
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There’s no way to make this deal without including Barnes Adam. Do you want to do that? I don’t, not for Ben Simmons.

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February 9, 2023 9:18 am
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My heart says no, but Nets may have to include picks for someone to take on Simmons, and that gets my brain thinking.

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February 9, 2023 9:24 am
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Fair. That’s totally fair.

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February 9, 2023 9:25 am
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And lordy, do they have picks to offer.

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February 9, 2023 9:48 am
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Alas, his price is still $78 million for the two seasons following this one.

I read today that Richaun Holmes’ contract as a backup center is “toxic.” It’s less than one-third of Simmons’, he is reliably available, and he doesn’t pass up clean dunks.

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February 9, 2023 9:52 am
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If I was OKC, I’d really look at Holmes.

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February 9, 2023 10:35 am
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Agreed, they have a bunch of guys taller than Holmes, but none of them want to play center.

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February 9, 2023 10:38 am
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Poku and Bazely for Holmes and Len works. Or Metu or Davis or whomever.

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February 9, 2023 8:44 am

The West going all in again. Pfft the beam got em scared!

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February 9, 2023 10:49 am

It’s wide open this year, can’t blame teams for going all in.

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February 9, 2023 8:46 am

The Durant trade is crazy! I didn’t think about this until I saw someone comment on this thread, but maybe they gave up so many first rounders because they expect to move booker and get them back down the road?

I’ve always disliked these inorganic star pairings since Lebron and the Heat did it. It’s become so commonplace that I’ve accepted it but I always root against those teams that just bypass internal development and star up for a playoff berth. Star players have too much power in this league, NBA should look to the NFL and how it handles their stars.

Would like the Kings to sit tight maybe add some backup center/guard on a good deal for our team, we have something special going!

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February 9, 2023 9:16 am

The Suns are basically telling Devin Booker that they can’t win a title if he’s their best player. I’m sure that he’ll be fine with that.

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February 9, 2023 9:24 am
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Like how Fox was getting told that we can’t make the play-offs if he’s our best player?

If a guy wants to win, he’ll be happy with reinforcements. If he’isn’t … [shrug].

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February 9, 2023 10:38 am
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The Kings are 1-4 when Fox is out, and 1-1 when Sabonis isn’t available, but do go on.

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February 9, 2023 10:45 am
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For what it’s worth, the Kings were 1-1 in the first two games Fox missed this season, too.

Personally, I don’t want either of them out, as our chance at winning suffers greatly, regardless of who it is.

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February 9, 2023 10:45 am
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That’s an impressive sample size; tell me more.

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February 9, 2023 11:20 am
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Alas, it’s all we have. But you already know that. I guess we’d need Fox and/or Sabonis to miss a bunch of games in order to satisfy your sample size requirements, whatever they are.

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February 9, 2023 11:58 am
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Yes, that’s my heart’s desire.
You know me so well.

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February 9, 2023 9:32 am
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And the guy who is on a supermax deal, no less.

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February 9, 2023 10:50 am
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Booker hasn’t proven them otherwise so who cares what he thinks.

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February 9, 2023 9:18 am

Kings are getting bounced in the first round unless they’re somehow able to play the TWolves. I don’t even think there’s a need to analyze match ups or anything like that. We’ve watched enough games to know this team’s strengths and weaknesses and they’re just simply not going to be able to compete in the playoffs with the current defense the Kings have. 

They’re a legitimate playoff team right now but 3rd place is fools gold. The Kings have had the luxury of being able to win against other playoff teams because their best player(s) have been out when we’ve matched up with them. Throw in beating up on teams they should beat up on and they have a good record but we can see how they get handled anytime they play a semi healthy playoff team. Can you name more than 2-3 real quality victories against Bonafied healthy playoff teams this year?

I maybe in the minority. But I am not sure Fox/Sabonis is the foundation for a championship level team. Playoffs sure. Next level. Not seeing it. We’ll see how they perform in the playoffs when Defense is at a premium.

I know Sabonis has been largely ineffective in the playoffs with Indiana. Different team I know. But, we’ll see.

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February 9, 2023 9:41 am
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Sabonis was also 19, 20, and 21 in his playoff appearances.

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February 9, 2023 10:11 am
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He was in the playoffs and a huge reason they got there . Geez

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February 9, 2023 10:53 am
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I agree. Building around Fox and Ox has a ceiling IMO. I doubt we get out the first round. Offensive juggernaut that doesn’t play a lick of D is cute in the regular season, not so much in the playoffs. Either way, going to be fun to see how the duo play in the playoffs, assuming we get in, play-in doesn’t count.

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February 9, 2023 11:57 am
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Before the season started everyone was praying to be in the playoffs and now if they don’t win first round it’s failure . First 2 of Adelman ‘s 8 year run started with first round defeats .

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February 9, 2023 12:43 pm
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Thanks for the perspective!

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February 9, 2023 9:05 am

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1623728860301852672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Wow, the Nets are definitely trying to drop below the tax. Don’t blame them either.

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February 9, 2023 9:17 am
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LOL, 5 second rounders!!!

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February 9, 2023 9:22 am
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2 of those are headed to Indy along with Jordan Nwora. Indy also just waived Goga Bitazde. Bitazde might be a nice buy low piece.

My hunch is something is happening with Holmes and Mason Plumlee. Don’t know why, just a tingling spidey sense.

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February 9, 2023 9:24 am
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I’m still hoping for Thybulle, but both would be fantastic!

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February 9, 2023 9:31 am
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I’m not especially worried either way. I have a sense Holmes gets traded today because the price is so much lower to acquire him than Poeltl.

If you’re OKC, would you give up a couple pieces to make it work? I don’t know. They might. I don’t think OKC can make it work easily though.

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February 9, 2023 9:37 am
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That would be amazing if Monte can get value for Holmes, but I don’t think the Poeltl deals sets the market for Holmes.

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February 9, 2023 9:42 am
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Of course it doesn’t set the market for Holmes. It takes one less player off the board teams can acquire. Holmes can still play.

Thomas Bryant just got traded for fucks sake. Richaun Holmes is better than Thomas Bryant, he just makes more money.

Plus, Gregory, it only takes 1. You know that.

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February 9, 2023 9:38 am
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Gms see something different. A kings team with a below average frontcourt. A 12 million dollar player that can’t help?

If he couldn’t get minutes on the 3rd ranked team. How is it going to be any different here.

Plus. I don’t see his name mentioned at all on any team.

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February 9, 2023 11:24 am
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If he couldn’t get minutes on the 3rd ranked team. How is it going to be any different here.

There are plenty of guys who don’t get a ton of minutes on good teams, but who can start for less-successful ones.

For example, Richaun Holmes after leaving Phoenix.

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February 9, 2023 11:26 am
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The Suns weren’t all that good when he was there, either.

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February 9, 2023 9:08 am

I just hope that if Richaun is being shopped around (he most probably is), he’ll can go to a new place and have a fresh start. He can and should do better.

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February 9, 2023 9:32 am
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I have a feeling he will be bought out or still here.
cmon there are 15 bigs in the league just as productive at a fraction of the cost.
Gms see a player rotting away on the bench on a playoff team. That is weak in their frontline. He doesn’t get minutes. Kings killed any value he has whatsoever by not playing him.

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February 9, 2023 9:46 am
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Amick said the league has Zero interest in Holmes. Just now.

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February 9, 2023 9:50 am
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Amick also said that Lebron was irritated about some shit, and James publicly corrected him.

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February 9, 2023 9:12 am

Bold Prediction: Kings do nothing. Monte is not the type to be spurred into hasty action, certainly not by the moves of other teams. Boring, but effective so far. A little something resembling defense would be nice, though!

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February 9, 2023 9:52 am
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Sometimes, as has been said, nothing is a real cool move. I am less concerned with no deals than I am about dumb ones, and not the least bit concerned that McNair will resort to the latter.

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February 9, 2023 9:54 am
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Sometimes, as has been said, nothing is a real cool move. I am less concerned with no deals than I am about dumb ones, and not the least bit concerned that McNair will resort to the latter.

Well said Sims. Well said.

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February 9, 2023 11:00 am
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Agreed. I would rather him wait until summer and get a deal he loved rather than activity without accomplishment now.

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February 9, 2023 11:12 am
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That’s what I feel PDX did. They traded away Hart and got Thybulle back. Like…why?

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February 9, 2023 11:25 am
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“Activity without accomplishment.”

Beautifully put.

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February 9, 2023 9:53 am
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That’s a great move for Denver, Bryant looks like he’s got the talent to get much better.

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February 9, 2023 9:26 am

Man, the entire Pacific Division is adding talent to catch the Kings.

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1623734294005919746

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February 9, 2023 9:34 am
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I don’t understand why the Pistons want Wiseman. I really don’t.

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February 9, 2023 9:36 am
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There would have to be more to that deal than a straight swap.

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February 9, 2023 9:43 am
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Yep, I’m not getting that one…but there’s a long way to go.

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February 9, 2023 10:15 am
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Trying to get a team full of top 5 picks that is awful .

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February 9, 2023 10:56 am
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Same reason they wanted Bagley, take a flyer on a top 3 pick bust that may improve with a change of scenery, rarely works but you never know.

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February 9, 2023 12:04 pm
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Obviously KG21, they want “James” to match up with Bagley or replace Bagley.
Being the second pick is not always good- lots of losers there.

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February 9, 2023 10:55 am
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TKHers have wanted Bey forever. Nice get for the W’s if it happens.

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February 9, 2023 9:38 am
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What is PDX doing? Are they in or out??

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February 9, 2023 9:55 am
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Honestly! This screams of “we must do something, and we’ll figure out what it means later on.”

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February 9, 2023 10:57 am
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Take Dame out of his misery and trade him and blow it up and build around Sharpe and Simons.

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February 9, 2023 9:39 am
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February 9, 2023 9:38 am

I hate to be over react guy, but the start to the year has been awesome but the Kings are just 5 games up on 12th with the Lakers in 13th, who have improved. I don’t want to give up the future but I feel like the Kings can just do nothing to try to improve. Whether it’s backup PG or backup C at the very least.

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February 9, 2023 9:54 am
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I don’t think Portland, Minny, or the Pels are solid bets for the playoffs/play-in. Lakers will likely supplant one of those three.

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February 9, 2023 9:39 am

Thybulle to the Blazers. I guess the Hart trade makes sense a little more now.

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February 9, 2023 9:47 am
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Not sure what the Hornets are doing here. They get a few 2nd rounders for McDaniles.

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1623739817128501248

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February 9, 2023 9:48 am
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That is a great pick up by the Sixers. If they stay healthy. They are loaded

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February 9, 2023 10:40 am
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Yeah, there’s no question that they just got better.

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February 9, 2023 9:49 am

It is something to think that by the Kings taking on Edwards from the Nets, it helped facilitate the Durant deal. It opened up a roster spot for the Nets.

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February 9, 2023 9:51 am
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Actually I think it allowed the Nets to complete the Irving deal. They haven’t completed the Durant deal yet.

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February 9, 2023 9:54 am
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Wasn’t Kyrie traded a few days before the Kings landed Edwards? Kyrie was traded on the 5th. Edwards came over on the 7th. I don’t know…it’s all a blur right now.

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February 9, 2023 9:59 am
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No. Not officially he wasn’t. That’s what I’m saying Adam.

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February 9, 2023 9:59 am

Still lots of things happening. 2 hours and stoppage time to go! We are going to need another thread!

https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/1623742643048939521

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February 9, 2023 10:09 am
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Ibaka off the bench wouldn’t be a bad idea.

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February 9, 2023 10:11 am
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He’s washed.

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February 9, 2023 10:58 am
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Had no clue Serge was still in the league lol.

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February 9, 2023 10:13 am
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Threading so hard right now!

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February 9, 2023 11:26 am
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If they cut Haliburton, we should look into that.

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February 9, 2023 10:13 am

The NBA Trade Deadline is today at 3 PM ET, 11 AM PT.

We need to have a talk about your time conversion skills, Greg.

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February 9, 2023 10:20 am
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3 PM ET is noon PT.

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February 9, 2023 10:21 am
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Sorry. Didn’t read carefully enough. That was your point.

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February 9, 2023 10:46 am

So Thomas Bryant, Poeltl, Thybulle, or McDaniels all could have been had and at a fairly cheap price (Poeltl seems the steapest).

If no moves are made, Kings may slip real quick. Kinda frustrating but we’ll see. Still some time left.

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February 9, 2023 10:51 am
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This is the most irritating kind of comment. “Could have been had” implies somehow the Kings failed to get these players when it was easy to do so. That isn’t how it works.

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February 9, 2023 11:00 am
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That is exactly how it works – these GM’s work for days to set up these deals and then work out the details day of.

My point – If Monte wanted these players, they could have easily beat the offers that were accepted. The Kings did fail to get these players when it was easy to do so (for whatever reason).

These trades can happen as easy as text/phone call and then work out the details at the office and with the league.

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February 9, 2023 11:03 am
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OK. You’re right. That NBA GM is so easy.

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February 9, 2023 11:03 am
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Tells me that Monte didn’t want these players. So in that regard, you can’t fail to get a player you don’t actually go after.

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February 9, 2023 11:27 am
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What a grand assumption that is.

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February 9, 2023 10:55 am

Great pick up by the Clips. Bones is a nice player

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February 9, 2023 11:09 am
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They just really hated Wiseman I guess

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February 9, 2023 12:09 pm

money, money, money. Let’s get rid of the sunk cost, they are saying.

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February 9, 2023 11:13 am
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You have to be kidding…

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February 9, 2023 11:00 am

Baby Giraffe still wants Collins, seems like at least two years running now. I guess the idea would be to double down on O and F playing D and just try to run teams off the court.

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February 9, 2023 11:02 am
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That’s Monte’s MO. He comes from Houston. Houston got to the playoffs.
Still didn’t get very far.

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February 9, 2023 11:12 am
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But they did that with Harden and some amazing defenders at almost every other position (Ariza, Tucker, Capela, Gordon, Bev, and CP3), etc. Kings do not have those pieces.

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February 9, 2023 12:17 pm
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They won over 60 games and had Warriors beaten until Paul injury . We should fail so badly !

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February 9, 2023 11:00 am

Maybe the Kings pick up Mason Plumlee? He’s still out there, I think.

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February 9, 2023 11:01 am

5 second RD picks for Mason Plumlee incoming…

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February 9, 2023 11:04 am
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One hour to go and every team in the Pacific is very active, sans the Kings. Hopefully Monte has something up his sleeve.

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February 9, 2023 11:30 am
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That’s an odd one, Fernando looks like an active and capable big man. He certainly provided a nice counterpoint to Sengun as a backup.

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February 9, 2023 11:14 am
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We could have used Gordon. Another great pick up by the Clips

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February 9, 2023 11:15 am
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Fits in with the injury laden stars they have too. Maybe they can all spend quality time in the training room.

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February 9, 2023 11:16 am
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Umm, no. I’m good on that. The Kings have 3 G’s better than Gordon already getting big minutes.

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February 9, 2023 12:17 pm
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Gordon can’t be trusted to make smart decisions on defense late in a game either, from what I have seen.

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February 9, 2023 11:17 am
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Westbrook is going to be an FA if you want an over the hill guard.

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February 9, 2023 11:12 am

Christ, the Pacific is going to be a bloodbath.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1623761462115147784

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February 9, 2023 11:18 am
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Now he gets to cost his team the game against us 2 more times this year.

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February 9, 2023 11:16 am
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February 9, 2023 11:18 am
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You want to take Shams or Woj and I’ll take the other? LOL

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February 9, 2023 11:31 am
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I feel terrible for John Wall. All that work to come back, sign with a possible contender, and get dumped on the worst team in the league.

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February 9, 2023 11:16 am
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February 9, 2023 11:22 am
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Damn, there goes one guy I would have liked to see. Plumlee is still out there though

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February 9, 2023 11:23 am
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We probably got another hour and half or so of news coming out. Usually it takes another hour or so past the deadline for all the deals to get reported.

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February 9, 2023 11:48 am
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There’s always lag time, and to a certain extent, I don’t think the league has any interest in slamming the door shut for the couple hours following the deadline.

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February 9, 2023 12:33 pm
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I’m surprised we haven’t heard of any additional moves.

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February 9, 2023 11:20 am

Pat Beverley is gone to Orlando now.

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February 9, 2023 11:21 am

Shams is saying Warriors are trying to get OG.

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February 9, 2023 11:22 am
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They know how to load manage him, if nothing else.

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February 9, 2023 11:25 am

Who knew 2nd rounders were the new prized NBA trade currency.

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February 9, 2023 11:28 am
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For a team that never does anything with our 2nd rounders, we sure value those 2nd round picks!

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February 9, 2023 11:36 am
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I expect next year we’ll see: Kings acquire Jaren Jackson Jr from the Grizzlies for 10 2nd round picks.

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February 9, 2023 11:27 am
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4 second rounders! Those things move like Pokemon cards now.

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February 9, 2023 11:28 am
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I envision a future draft where the entire 2nd round is split among 5 teams.

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February 9, 2023 11:29 am
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Hell, the first round in a few years is almost like that.

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February 9, 2023 11:29 am

Can someone check on Monte? Maybe he fell asleep?

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February 9, 2023 11:29 am
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“Dude, I got until 3p…wait, that’s Eastern time?! Damn!”

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February 9, 2023 11:29 am
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Monte:
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February 9, 2023 11:31 am
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I like to think he has specific deals in mind, and working on those. Versus just playing darts with names and 2nd round picks.

Though, I could totally be wrong, and he could just suck at darts.

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February 9, 2023 11:33 am
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Maybe Monte’s attitude is we’ll still beat you with what we got now.

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February 9, 2023 11:40 am

For what it’s worth, I’m comfortable with Monte not getting rooked into some weird “win it all this year” arms race like the rest of the conference appears to be engaged in.

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February 9, 2023 11:43 am
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I agree with this

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February 9, 2023 11:43 am
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100% with you BTB.

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February 9, 2023 11:45 am
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His idea might be….and I’m spitballing here….

We’re currently good enough to meet our goal of a post-season appearance for now, and in the future. We can take that win with us this year, then look at the landscape and trade fallout around the league this offseason.

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February 9, 2023 11:48 am
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If you can’t move Holmes, you can’t move him. I’m surprised nobody around the league wants the guy….but this league sometimes is weird. They want him for the minimum and are going to wait out McNair….if they can.

I just don’t think McNair is going to play that game.

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February 9, 2023 12:07 pm
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Would you say its b/c of his “toxic contract”?

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February 9, 2023 12:20 pm
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I think the NBA is playing a game of chicken with McNair that more often than not they haven’t won.

They are waiting for a guy who has more incentive to let the contract expire than to waive him.

It is what it is. Teams talk themselves onto players for whatever reason and talk themselves off players for the same reason.

Holmes has been available for awhile and now teams assume there is something really wrong with him and nobody wants to take a shot at him. It’s part of the way the NBA works.

Toxic? Heh. Keep using whatever word you want. McNair had no reason to be in a hurry or do a stupid deal. That’s the way it should be IMO.

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February 9, 2023 11:55 am
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Hopefully we don’t have any major injuries these last two months of the season.

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February 9, 2023 12:18 pm
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Mason Plumlee doesn’t protect you if Domantas Sabonis is out for two months.

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February 9, 2023 12:20 pm
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He does better than Metu, IMO.

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February 9, 2023 12:25 pm
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Sure but to what end and at what price? I’m just hoping the Kings start playing Holmes since there’s little risk of him getting hurt (or no more so than at any other time) now that there aren’t trade suitors.

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February 9, 2023 1:05 pm
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Do you want more Holmes b/c you think he’s a better option than Metu as the back-up C?

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February 9, 2023 2:26 pm
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Correct.

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February 9, 2023 11:45 am
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Buy out market could be fire this year. Good time to round out the playoff roster with a couple vets.

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February 9, 2023 11:49 am

I don’t see the Kings cutting anyone to get someone else in the buy out market.

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February 9, 2023 12:35 pm
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Len’s roster spot doesn’t seem safe.

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February 9, 2023 11:48 am
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I don’t disagree, but the proof will ultimately be in the pudding.
And yes, cliches are cliches for a reason.

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February 9, 2023 11:42 am

Plumlee gone to LAC

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February 9, 2023 11:44 am
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Yup, we’re screwed.

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February 9, 2023 11:50 am
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I don’t think Plumlee will be much of a difference-maker in games where one or both of Leonard and George are sitting.

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February 9, 2023 11:52 am
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He basically will backup Zubac

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February 9, 2023 11:44 am
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What the hell do the Hornets want with Jackson? Their moves make no sense today.

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February 9, 2023 11:45 am
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No clue. What I do know is that not every deal has been reported yet and we’ve got an hour yet before most, if not all, will get reported.

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February 9, 2023 11:48 am

I can see the Kings trading five 2nds + Edwards for Melo

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February 9, 2023 11:48 am
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ALL THE 2NDS!!!

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February 9, 2023 11:50 am
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I’ll believe he gets traded when he gets traded. Never before. These rumors with him are a complete waste of time.

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February 9, 2023 11:51 am
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They aren’t getting offers that they like, so they say they plan on keeping him…until the right offer comes. Great front office speak

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February 9, 2023 12:05 pm
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Which is likely the exact same thing that McNair is doing for Holmes, and presumably Barnes.

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February 9, 2023 11:52 am
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LOL!!!!

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February 9, 2023 11:55 am
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YOU GET FIVE 2ND ROUNDERS, AND YOU GET FIVE 2ND ROUNDERS!!!!

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February 9, 2023 11:55 am
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NBA needs to create a 3rd round…

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February 9, 2023 11:55 am

NBA needs to implement a Stepien Rule for 2nds

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February 9, 2023 11:56 am
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I’m just waiting a two teams to trade 7 second rounders for a future first…no players involved.

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February 9, 2023 11:56 am

Pacific Division got a lot better. Disappointed Monte thinks this team is ok as is. Barely beat the Rockets. Cmon man…

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February 9, 2023 12:07 pm
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“We’ll give you the rights to Brian Cardinal for Barnes.”
McNair: “Naah.”

A contingent of Kings fans: “WHY AREN’T YOU DOING ANYTHING?!?”

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February 9, 2023 12:10 pm
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The one I can’t figure out is the Lakers trading away Beverly and a 2nd for Bamba. Couldn’t Monte do better than that?

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February 9, 2023 12:11 pm
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Maybe he didn’t like Bamba?

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February 9, 2023 12:21 pm
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I think the idea of Bamba as a seven footer with some range and shot blocking is a lot better than what Bamba is on the court, which makes WCS seem like a high motor/high IQ player.

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February 9, 2023 12:25 pm
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I guess we’d need to figure out who in Sacramento would be the closest equivalent to Beverly, and go from there.

The obvious person would be Mitchell, but he doesn’t score like Beverly can, so I’m supposing that Orlando wanted Monk. I’d have passed on that.

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February 9, 2023 12:02 pm

Welp…looks like that is it.

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February 9, 2023 12:05 pm

Me to my buddy: “Kings are third, they’re fine, they don’t need to do anything.”

Western Conference GMs: “Hold my beer.”

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February 9, 2023 12:10 pm

Likely Monte was not going to send 5 2nd round picks out for a expiring contract. The asking prices were mostly stupid today. Somewhat glad he did not do something rash this deadline.

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February 9, 2023 12:10 pm

So the Kings gonna roll with what they got? Nothing for us to digest today. Kinda disappointing.

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February 9, 2023 12:13 pm

It is what it is. If Monte could not find value with what he had to move at the deadline, I am fine with it.

He can head into summer with some clear goals in mind.

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February 9, 2023 12:29 pm
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Yep. You can only make moves once and you can’t make moves that aren’t there. The moves weren’t there to make, as frustrating as that is.

I’m hoping this clears the pathway to Holmes getting minutes again.

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February 9, 2023 12:20 pm

I guess that Monte felt like the Kings were just a Kessler Edwards away from locking up a playoff spot.

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February 9, 2023 1:00 pm
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Or did not want to move assets in a lateral way that would not help this season. Never know what was out there and what the price for the Kings. The off-season will be interesting now with lots of these teams dumping 2nd rounders for 28 game rentals.

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February 9, 2023 12:22 pm

Depressing ☹️. Oh well we’re still in 3rd place. 😃

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February 9, 2023 12:23 pm

Looking at the volatility of the trade market, makes me wonder if next year will be the same song and dance. I think most fans agree we are not a championship team this year, too young and not enough time together as a starter group.

Maybe these turncoat stars will see us fans losing our minds in the playoffs this year, and next year we can join the superteam ranks and add a 3rd piece to take us over the top.

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February 9, 2023 12:37 pm

I don’t know that anyone available at this deadline makes the Kings a championship team. You can throw Durant out there, but the cost in personnel would likely have undercut legitimate hopes for getting a title. I think Phoenix made a mistake, particularly given Durant’s age, lack of durability, and seeming disinterest in how his actions affect his team.

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February 9, 2023 12:38 pm

The abject disappointment by some/few in this thread about how the man who has created the best Kings team in decades and current 3rd place team in the West somehow shit the bed today is…kinda wild.

I get some West teams improved dramatically with big risk moves. They may pass the Kings…even likely. None of the most common moves thrown around on this or other threads recently, Plumblee, Thybulle etc probably changes that.

Trades are fun and exciting to talk about…even if they don’t make you markedly better. I am perfectly happy as this point to just let Monte cook or not cook, in whatever vision he currently has. Earned in my eyes.

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February 9, 2023 1:04 pm
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some West teams improved dramatically with big risk moves.

Trades are fun and exciting to talk about…even if they don’t make you markedly better. 

So which is it?

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February 9, 2023 2:33 pm
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Maybe I should say “may have improved”. I’m talking about lower end trades like Plumblee etc.

I think most people could probably discern the difference and general point. Your mileage obviously varies.

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