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His new team/coach won’t allow this and thus Buddy’s play will improve. That Luke continues to enable Buddy’s worst habits is another coaching malpractice on his part. Dude should rarely dribble the ball and he certainly should never be bringing it up the court
Luke doing nothing to curb his bad habits and play to his strengths. Walton’s never shown to be a guy who knows how to get the best out of his players so it’s not surprising
Kings defense never gonna truly be good enough with how terrible all of their guards(minus Davion) are. Just brutal stuff from Fox, Hali, and Buddy. Davis is also really bad on that end.
Kings have been hopeless for so long that I’ve fortunately stopped getting sucked into the preseason/camp fluff reports. I’m always excited about basketball starting up again but with the Kings I go into the year with no expectations other than hoping the young players/inevitable lottery pick they make look good or exciting. Same story this year for me along with the hope that they finally fire Walton instead of wasting another season with him because they’re too cheap to move on and pay another HC while still having to pay Walton
It’s not like I’m expecting that this is the year we turn around and make the playoffs and deep playoff run. I’m just baffled even other bad organization (knicks, twolves) bump their heads every once in a while. Year in and out I feel this team has a similar record and the same type of similar non identity. It’s incredible work to be this bad, this long, and this similarly most years.
I’m just waiting for the, “What Kings fans don’t understand is this Kings squad has been playing against teams that were better than them last year,” excuse
Like no shit, 80% of the league was better than the Kings last year.
Gotta respect Buddy’s truly unshakeable confidence. If I were to turn the ball over as regularly as he does, I’d begin to defer to the trio of quality guards playing right next to me but NOPE.
Katie said when they came back from a time out how the Kings have such great inbound plays. They inbound it to Harrison Barnes and he just went and got a basket….nice set
Simmons as a no. 2 guy hasn’t been working so well either. Is he just gonna suddenly be better with more workload? It’s too early to be slamming the panic button on Fox, who has 4 years of quality production compared to these 4 games of mediocre production.
I stand by my statement. I’m not speaking only on 4 games, but for 4 years. I just don’t want all this suffering to peak as a 7th seed with fox running the show.
I also see Fox as more of an option 1b, but he’s the best we got. My disagreement comes from the suggestion that the league’s most expensive headache/choke artist is gonna be the solution over a dude who has demonstrated an ability to take over at times, and has shown commitment to the organization.
Simmons could backfire fore sure. Your argument of loyalty to the organization is the only valid argument IMO. Simmons one would have to bank on him maturing he still has an elite skill set though with DPOY ability. I just think a combo with Hali, Mitchell, and Simmons has a ridiculous ceiling defensively.
Fox unable to shoot 3’s well is one thing but the fact that he’s still such a terrible FT shooter(1/3 so far tonight) is and always will be the bigger issue with him and his ultimate ceiling. With his play style, he’s gonna find ways to get to the line a lot. Shooting a worse % than your own starting Center is ridiculous for a PG
2nd half: Kings are going to play hard but ultimately lose, leading to the analysts to say that if only they played with the 2nd half intensity all game then they would’ve won. Rinse and repeat for the next 78 games
So the over the back is not a foul anymore apparently… I’ve seen several from both teams in this game. I saw a few in the other games but I guess it’s a thing.
Every time Fox does that thing where he lets the inbounds pass roll for a few seconds before touching it, I almost lose my shit, it’s so annoying. There’s no reason to do it. It’s not like there’s 2 seconds on the play clock and you need to milk it. It just leaves everyone else standing around waiting for the play to start, and ruins the rhythm.
Maybe Fox should look to find a way to get somebody like Barnes some good looks in crunch time rather than chuck up 3’s or long 2’s. He’s been the teams best player by a country mile this season so far
The last four minutes I saw Fox over dribbling and throwing up bricks, the obligatory unforced turnover by Heild at a crucial moment, and heard Kayte say something about how Walton has a vast playbook of inbound plays [eye roll].
but I’ll take it. Good road win against a good team. We need Fox to play better.
I missed the game and decided to read through the thread to see how the game went. Looks like the Kings played like shit early on, got out to a big deficit, kept playing terribly, and won the game.
I was on the thread most of the night…. Kings started out and looked like trash…. the fun friends came out to post their emotional diatribe and now they look like idiots.
So our only max player didn’t almost single handedly give the game away, only to be saved by the guy he should’ve been feeding all night? And the fans don’t just want him to move the ball, play defense, and play within himself? Which he hasn’t done at all this season. And they are idiots to think so?
Welcome to TKH where the Kings are expected to miss the playoffs for the 16th year and yet they are expected to win all games against good playoff teams.
Kings woudn’t be in the game without Buddy and wouldn’t have almost lost it without Buddy. Would probably be 0 for the season without Barnes. I’ll take whatever wins I can get. GO KINGS!
Let’s see if we can play all four quarters…go Kings!
Can’t sleep.
Having an Off Night.
Fox looking like he has no interest in playing any defense this quarter. Same goes for the rest of the starters too
Fox is seeing Davion in the rear-view mirror. P.S. I have no clue what the Kings are trying to do on offense or defense.
It’s not the Kings, it’s Walton. They look like a team totally unprepared for what they are facing.
Walton is not great. But Fox is in a coma right now.
Hield. Dribble aimlessly. Throw it at Davion’s feet.
Point guard Buddy!
His new team/coach won’t allow this and thus Buddy’s play will improve. That Luke continues to enable Buddy’s worst habits is another coaching malpractice on his part. Dude should rarely dribble the ball and he certainly should never be bringing it up the court
Get Buddy out of there. That was rough.
Blows my mind nightly how much Buddy is allowed to dribble and pass instead of finding an open spot to catch and shoot.
Blows my mind how long he’s been doing that. That’s on the coach. Walton wants HB to shoot 8 threes a game. WTF does he want from Buddy?
Luke doing nothing to curb his bad habits and play to his strengths. Walton’s never shown to be a guy who knows how to get the best out of his players so it’s not surprising
Luke Walton fired yet, or do we need to watch the tape to see his deficiencies?
The refs suck as usual.
So do the Kings.
Harkless blown by for an easy layup
Suns are getting to rim at will. Kings are standing 30 feet from the rim and waiting for Buddy to jack it up.
Hang on. Checking NBA mock drafts. BRB
I swear in high school we ran better offensive sets than Luke Walton.
Kings defense never gonna truly be good enough with how terrible all of their guards(minus Davion) are. Just brutal stuff from Fox, Hali, and Buddy. Davis is also really bad on that end.
I know everyone worships Tyrese, but he is the master of leaving his feet with no idea where he’s gonna pass the ball
I’ve noticed him picking up his dribble too often this season as well.
He’s also still too passive looking for his shot. He’s passing up good looks and it’s hurting the offense as a whole
Seriously, get Buddy off the court. This is dreadful
showcasing him for any team that wants a chucker with no clue
This team is just miserable to watch. Just like last season and the one before.
And the one before that? Is that a Pooh meter sighting?
I knew someone would say that. At least they had an identity in Joerger’s last season.
Identity?? Is that the thing respectable teams have?
If Bagley can’t get minutes in this dumpster fire, I wouldn’t blame him for asking for a trade
Doug Christie warming up in the bullpen
This is very bad. How are we only down 11?
Give it time. It’s still early. Should get to 20+ in no time
I sense a blowout.
This is putrid. Going back to bed.
Harkless in no man’s land giving up alley oop. Good thing we have him in there for defense
How do I continuously get sucked into this dumpster fire?
Kings have been hopeless for so long that I’ve fortunately stopped getting sucked into the preseason/camp fluff reports. I’m always excited about basketball starting up again but with the Kings I go into the year with no expectations other than hoping the young players/inevitable lottery pick they make look good or exciting. Same story this year for me along with the hope that they finally fire Walton instead of wasting another season with him because they’re too cheap to move on and pay another HC while still having to pay Walton
It’s not like I’m expecting that this is the year we turn around and make the playoffs and deep playoff run. I’m just baffled even other bad organization (knicks, twolves) bump their heads every once in a while. Year in and out I feel this team has a similar record and the same type of similar non identity. It’s incredible work to be this bad, this long, and this similarly most years.
It certainly takes a lot of effort to remain this bad for this long, especially in a sport where over HALF the league makes the playoffs every year.
Emotional numbness is the only way to enjoy this team. They always suck, but at least now I get a kick out of it!
This is just pathetic, and we all had some hope that this team would be different.
we all?
Well I still am loving Davion Mitchell. How he isn’t contagious makes zero sense.
Len… lol
I have no words.
Nice run there. Len playing well.
Fox added all this weight yet still gets pushed around when getting into the lane pretty easy.
“It’s Terence Davis time!” – Terence Davis any time he’s in the game
Film at halftime….get your popcorn ready
It’s so lame when Deuce gets mad in their postgame podcast at folks calling for Walton to be fired.
I feel my intelligence is insulted often by Deuce.
We suck again × 15
I’m not sure how Fox lost all his confidence, but he’s giving off all types of sad sack vibes right now.
Ayton just eating up our bigs
Fox didn’t call glass on that 3
Ayton is a man among boys. Just too big.
Lmao Buddy
If Pop were coach, he’d be screaming at Hield on the bench right now
Kayte says it’s going to take a few weeks for some teams to play at “full force.” Oh please.
Excuses when none are required ! Must be what fans don’t understand !
I’m just waiting for the, “What Kings fans don’t understand is this Kings squad has been playing against teams that were better than them last year,” excuse
Like no shit, 80% of the league was better than the Kings last year.
And 100% of the league has been better overall the last 15 years.
Kings will be out of the playoffs by then and will be playing catch up like always. How does she not see that?
A game like this just makes Davion seem irrelevant
Truly incredible how bad the Kings are at defending the pnr
It’s a miracle we’re only down 8
Gotta respect Buddy’s truly unshakeable confidence. If I were to turn the ball over as regularly as he does, I’d begin to defer to the trio of quality guards playing right next to me but NOPE.
Katie said when they came back from a time out how the Kings have such great inbound plays. They inbound it to Harrison Barnes and he just went and got a basket….nice set
Gotta say whatever you can to try and keep us watching.
Kayte
Matt Barnes is pretty good in this role
Fox for simmons? Ceiling can only be so high with fox as number 1 guy.
Simmons as a no. 2 guy hasn’t been working so well either. Is he just gonna suddenly be better with more workload? It’s too early to be slamming the panic button on Fox, who has 4 years of quality production compared to these 4 games of mediocre production.
I stand by my statement. I’m not speaking only on 4 games, but for 4 years. I just don’t want all this suffering to peak as a 7th seed with fox running the show.
Then we trade Fox but not for garbage like Simmons.
I also see Fox as more of an option 1b, but he’s the best we got. My disagreement comes from the suggestion that the league’s most expensive headache/choke artist is gonna be the solution over a dude who has demonstrated an ability to take over at times, and has shown commitment to the organization.
Simmons could backfire fore sure. Your argument of loyalty to the organization is the only valid argument IMO. Simmons one would have to bank on him maturing he still has an elite skill set though with DPOY ability. I just think a combo with Hali, Mitchell, and Simmons has a ridiculous ceiling defensively.
Guess I will save my money and not go to games lol
”Is that that foxtrot?” *crickets*
Fox unable to shoot 3’s well is one thing but the fact that he’s still such a terrible FT shooter(1/3 so far tonight) is and always will be the bigger issue with him and his ultimate ceiling. With his play style, he’s gonna find ways to get to the line a lot. Shooting a worse % than your own starting Center is ridiculous for a PG
2nd half: Kings are going to play hard but ultimately lose, leading to the analysts to say that if only they played with the 2nd half intensity all game then they would’ve won. Rinse and repeat for the next 78 games
The defense is different this year… that’s my only retort. I mostly concur with your thought.
I have no idea how the Kings are only down 2 right now
its an ugly game. Defense has been solid overall though.
Buddy doesn’t care what we think of him. He gonna shoot.
I mean, that’s what I want him doing. Only time he should touch the ball is to catch and shoot and that’s it
So the over the back is not a foul anymore apparently… I’ve seen several from both teams in this game. I saw a few in the other games but I guess it’s a thing.
I’m clueless. No idea how Kings are winning
Defense can always give you a shot. Phoenix hasn’t been great overall either.
It’s got to be the popcorn
More Mitchell and Hali backcourt please.
Harrison Barnes not giving it to Buddy on the inbound when Buddy is asking for it…. waits for Mitchell.
Saw that too!
Wait, the Lakers lost to the Thunder who were on the 2nd night of a B2B? Lol
Shoulda taken buddy.
Oh man Davion just stole a soul. Wish he knocked that down though
Let’s see Tyrese, Buddy, Len, Richaun and Barnes.
davion needed to make that
Remember when Bagley scored 32 points against the Suns in 2019?
Good times.
Almost as good as when Skal hung 30 on them
Lol almost.
I’m not even sure Buddy knew how he strung those moves together to shake Crowder for that basket
He blacked out.
Yikes. 4 team fouls by the Kings already and there’s still 10 minutes left in the 4th
Every time Fox does that thing where he lets the inbounds pass roll for a few seconds before touching it, I almost lose my shit, it’s so annoying. There’s no reason to do it. It’s not like there’s 2 seconds on the play clock and you need to milk it. It just leaves everyone else standing around waiting for the play to start, and ruins the rhythm.
Terrence Davis is a joke, and so is his 3% 3pt shooting this season
Please get Terence Davis off the court
Here comes Phoenix. Gonna take it using the line and Luke waltons poor offense.
Man, TD looks bad. I was really looking forward to his play this year.
Keep firing away Buddy…just don’t dribble too much in the process
Buddy returning Fluke’s phone calls
Nice trap the force Paul to call a time out. BBIQ
Wow that Hali Mitchell trap was invigorating. Maybe I’m wrong just the kings lose this type of game last 15 years.
This team is so much better when Mitchell and Hali are the backcourt.
So the Kings decided to switch up the formula this game by sucking in the 1st half and then playing well in the 2nd.
This team can look so fucking bad for much of the game and still be in it against playoff teams. Wtf.
Matt Barnes commando
LEN STRETCH 5
Completely changes his value wow.
Alex Len is just great. Shot looks smooth.
Katy’s and Kyle talking about bigs shooting 3s like they haven’t watched the nba the last 6 years.
I believe they were talking about Kings practice
Fox got to get back on defense
he pouted after his crappy offense
I hate how lazy he plays on that end.
Fox is a bad marriage with me
Hes been in my craw for 4 years
Yet monte wont get us Simmons
Needed that by Fox
Here we go with the Fox hero ball. Watch this lead disappear. Whatever you do, don’t get it to the guys who are actually hitting shots.
Facilitate my point guard
Damn, Suns just 3/17 from 3PT.
Overall our 3pt defense has been good. We are winning with defense. When have we ever been able to say that.
Yeah, imagine how insane that D would be with Simmons instead of Fox.
Get Fox out of the game
Tyrese just needs to shoot. Period. He gives up too many easy shots.
Fox again killing them down the stretch with poor decision making and poor shot selection
Fat Fox
Fox blowing this thing
Fox needs to sit this stretch out.
If fox misses one more free throw………
3/7 tonight. Terrible
Yet doesn’t surprise me. It’s always short.
Fox iso until 3 second left. chucks up shot. So pathetic
Fox…you can’t shoot dude. Please stop freakin taking long jumpers or step back 3’s ffs
Fox needs to be pulled out of this game.
Kings guards choking like dogs
what an utter embarrassment
Thanks Fox. Helping to fire Fluke
Jesus Christ.
Why is the team deferring to Fox. He is not capable right now
He never has been that guy.
Fox wrecked the 4th man.. that sucks
Fucking choke job
Fox is trash. If he played ok this year we’d be 3-1.
Late game offense coming up small again with Fox being a big culprit. Becoming a theme with this team so far
Luke needs to realize Fox isn’t the end-all be-all
He’s being paid max money so he’s the guy for this team. He’s coming up small
from lions to lambs. Fox isnt the man
Everyone else on the floor shooting over 50% for the game. Fox is 7-20. Don’t move the ball, dude, whatever you do.
Who woulda thought good defense by buddy. Well a chance ftw.
Kings were up 105-95 with 2:38 left in the game. Hilarious
Walton working on his post game cliches
“I’m going to take responsibility for the tape”
Set up a play for HB
Nice call game winner
Ok Walton, let’s see another one of your “genius” inbound plays. FML.
Put in Alex Len. Let him take game winner
no big time players when the heat is on. No one wants the ball except hield, but he can’t hold onto it
OT loss time baby
KANGZ!
Harrison Barnes = God
And Mitchell having the sense to get it to him.
it too the only man on the team
Game winner
All you Harrison Barnes contract haters better be honest. It was most of you
What a weird game.
I was thinking the same…. And like Portland I like weird.
Black Falcon. Fuck yeah
He better not talk to Fox the whole flight home.
HB CARRY
Maybe Fox should look to find a way to get somebody like Barnes some good looks in crunch time rather than chuck up 3’s or long 2’s. He’s been the teams best player by a country mile this season so far
Nearly every win is going to be close this season. Remember Denver last season?
I can’t get excited about a barely survived meltdown
Just take the W. We don’t get a lot of fun moments in basketball hell.
I mean if you can’t get a little excited about that then what’s the point? Just hate watching 82 a year?
All wins matter.
BLACK FALCON!!!!
Just the other day i heard bang bang bang on tv from another broadcast. Apparently so did draper.
Not sure how Harrison Barnes took his game to the next level at this point in his career, but Kings are damn lucky he did.
Isn’t Harrison Barnes like 10 years younger than Chris Paul?
Geez that offense really got stagnant last 3 minutes….even that last shot wasn’t really great
Yeah it was.
barnes and hield. the two guys we were ready to deal turn out to be the two guys we desperately need
True. With a minimal uptick on defense and better late game execution we can win some games and make a real push
Mitchell game high +9.
Wow, we needed that shot. Thank you Harrison Barnes.
Thank you HB! Fantastic shot! We almost blew that 13 point lead.
Really liking Matt Barnes on the in studio stuff.
These shooting percentages. Good lord
Eye test confirmed. Fox sucks
As soon as he came off the bench in the 4th our lead evaporated and our offense was terrible
True he’s been shit this year…also true Kings are 2-2 vs 4 western conference playoff teams including last years 1-2 seeds.
Seems highly unlikely based on 4 year sample size that he will continue to be this shitty.
Its not on brand for Kangz fan but, could the glass be half full?
Thank god for HB.
The last four minutes I saw Fox over dribbling and throwing up bricks, the obligatory unforced turnover by Heild at a crucial moment, and heard Kayte say something about how Walton has a vast playbook of inbound plays [eye roll].
but I’ll take it. Good road win against a good team. We need Fox to play better.
Damn, this thread is extremely disappointing. Don’t usually check the game threads, don’t think I’ll ever do it again.
We must be 0-4 and just blown out by the Western Conf defending champs.
It’s going to take a good amount of momentum and goodwill buildup for a lot of the fanbase to turn positive as their default emotion with the Kings
I missed the game and decided to read through the thread to see how the game went. Looks like the Kings played like shit early on, got out to a big deficit, kept playing terribly, and won the game.
I was on the thread most of the night…. Kings started out and looked like trash…. the fun friends came out to post their emotional diatribe and now they look like idiots.
So our only max player didn’t almost single handedly give the game away, only to be saved by the guy he should’ve been feeding all night? And the fans don’t just want him to move the ball, play defense, and play within himself? Which he hasn’t done at all this season. And they are idiots to think so?
Welcome to TKH where the Kings are expected to miss the playoffs for the 16th year and yet they are expected to win all games against good playoff teams.
Kings woudn’t be in the game without Buddy and wouldn’t have almost lost it without Buddy. Would probably be 0 for the season without Barnes. I’ll take whatever wins I can get. GO KINGS!
What the hell happend?
How did they win? Wow. Nice.
We branched into a different timeline at the end.
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