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Kings vs Grizzlies Game Thread

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Oct 27, 2022; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings guard De'Aaron Fox (5) warms up before the game against the Memphis Grizzlies at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Sergio Estrada-USA TODAY Sports

Go Kings! Sorry the thread is a little late!

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October 27, 2022 7:23 pm

Why is Metu in for Murray? Metu should never be your first off the bench.

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October 27, 2022 7:26 pm
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Green Light Metu

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October 27, 2022 7:28 pm
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…and he’s 0-2 fro three in just 4 minutes.

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October 27, 2022 7:30 pm
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I think because he was pouting the other day after practice.

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October 27, 2022 7:31 pm
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Yeah not a fan of Metu getting minutes, especially being the first sub for Murray

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October 27, 2022 7:33 pm
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The first time I’ve been upset with a Mike Brown coaching decision. Immediately killed our offensive momentum and left the door open for Memphis.

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October 27, 2022 7:34 pm
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Yup.

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October 28, 2022 6:29 am
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It was nice, I think, to play Moneke but that also killed our momentum.

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October 28, 2022 6:27 am
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How about Trey Lyles?

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October 27, 2022 7:25 pm

Dallas beat Brooklyn

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October 27, 2022 7:32 pm

2nd unit had that lead evaporate with the quickness.

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October 27, 2022 7:33 pm

Holmes looks bad on defense.

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October 27, 2022 7:35 pm
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And offense

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October 27, 2022 7:36 pm
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His PnR previously with TH was money. Why not run that play?

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October 27, 2022 7:36 pm
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opposing players know they can just run into Holmes and go to the line.

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October 28, 2022 6:31 am
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Holmes looked bad all around. So did Mitchell and Davis. Supposed to have a reat bench. The only one to play good was Monk. Can’t win with no bench.

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October 27, 2022 7:37 pm

2nd unit has no rhythm or flow. Just take some errant shots and letting Tyus Jones blow it up

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October 27, 2022 7:38 pm

I don’t know what is worse the officiating so far or the stream I am watching.

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October 27, 2022 7:39 pm

Keegan Murray getting the Yogi chant?

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October 27, 2022 7:46 pm
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Keegan…for 3

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October 27, 2022 7:40 pm

Is Murray an elite shooting prospect? Because he feels damn near automatic any time he gets a semi-open look.

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October 27, 2022 7:40 pm

Roster that lacks athletic wings and is incapable of preventing dribble penetration and has zero rim protection of any kind. The defense stands no chance

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October 27, 2022 7:42 pm

Keegan really their best shooter already

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October 27, 2022 7:43 pm
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Shot is simple, little movement, sets his base well before he gets the ball. Lots to like

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October 28, 2022 6:33 am
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I also like Huerter and Fox isn’t bad either.

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October 27, 2022 7:43 pm

I never foresaw Desmond Bane being this good. Thought he was going to be a long-time, blue-collar roleplayer.

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October 28, 2022 6:35 am
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Sure has an attitude kind of like Curray.

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October 27, 2022 7:45 pm

Monk and TD are frustrating to watch. Like, move the ball and create an open shot. Shoot it like it’s a hot potato

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October 28, 2022 6:36 am
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I thought Monk played well last night especially with Fox, Like to see more.

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October 27, 2022 7:46 pm

Nobody can hit a 3 other than Keegan

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October 27, 2022 7:50 pm
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Keeganator Bang Bang. What a high IQ player

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October 28, 2022 6:37 am
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Oh! come on. Huerter is an elite 3 point shooter.

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October 27, 2022 7:47 pm

I can see how Moneke fits as a defensive wing on this team quite easily. The question is, can he be passable on offense?

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October 28, 2022 6:38 am
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Doesn’t have an offense right now.

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October 27, 2022 7:47 pm

Green Light back in. This should be fun

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October 27, 2022 7:49 pm
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They should’ve cut Metu. Lyles/Moneke/Okpala are more deserving of these minutes.

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October 27, 2022 7:50 pm

Brown is moving guys in and out so fast that nobody can get into a rhythm

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October 27, 2022 7:53 pm
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Trying to find anyone who can/will play a smidge of defense.

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October 28, 2022 6:43 am
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What happened to Mitchell last night. Players driving right past him. I really haven;t seen much on defense so far ths year. His offense is non exsistant.

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October 27, 2022 7:56 pm
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Brown with his subs tonight

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October 28, 2022 6:41 am
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I agree there. It takes most players time to settle in. Not all but most.

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October 27, 2022 7:54 pm

11 minutes for Keegan and 9 for Metu? What the hell are you doing, Brown

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October 27, 2022 7:56 pm
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Gonna need the starters playing 40 minutes to have a chance tonight

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October 27, 2022 7:56 pm
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Keegan and Murray were on the floor at the same time there though I’m half watching

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October 27, 2022 7:56 pm
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Makes no sense

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October 27, 2022 7:55 pm

Keegan is going to be the best player on this team by the end of the season…which is going to create an awkward dynamic with Fox/Sabonis.

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October 27, 2022 7:56 pm

This half has definitely been rife with coaching/rotation mistakes, primo being American first off the bench when the lineup was starting off well (finally)

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October 27, 2022 7:59 pm

First unit looks beautiful

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October 27, 2022 7:59 pm
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And Barnes showed up, so that’s nice

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October 28, 2022 6:45 am
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I hope that’s a trend.

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October 27, 2022 8:00 pm
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If only they could play 48 minutes per game

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October 27, 2022 7:59 pm

This officiating officially sucks

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October 27, 2022 7:59 pm

“Old man river Barnes” lol

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October 27, 2022 8:00 pm

I hate Ed Malloy, I hate him a lot.

but Dearest DeAaron is having another great game.

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October 27, 2022 8:01 pm

Keegan has got to shoot that midrange if they give it to him

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October 28, 2022 6:46 am
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He will.

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October 27, 2022 8:03 pm

Huerter can’t buy a bucket this half

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October 27, 2022 8:03 pm
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Shot looks flat tonight

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October 27, 2022 8:05 pm
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and now he just got hurt. Sigh

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October 27, 2022 8:06 pm

Thanks Kyle

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October 27, 2022 8:09 pm

Fox playing out of his mind these first 4 games and they’re still likely staring at 0-4 anyway. Sheesh

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October 27, 2022 8:21 pm
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Hes putting in work offensively kinda like shae is for OKC. Except both will never get the recognition cause they play on shitty teams

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October 27, 2022 8:14 pm

No more Metu. Ok?

Thanks.

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October 27, 2022 8:32 pm
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His ass should be glued to the bench

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October 27, 2022 8:22 pm

Fox is currently 6th in the entire NBA in usage, behind Luka, Giannis, Ja, Young, and Embiid, and tonights game looks to increase that. I’m not sure that is a recipe for success going forward.

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October 27, 2022 8:27 pm

Do I like our chances in the second hald? No. It’s the little things that kills this team. Can’t get a rebound off two missed free throws, can’t get crucial rebounds, allow second chance points, pick up ticky tack fouls.. winning teams never make these mistakes

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October 27, 2022 8:31 pm
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I was thinking something similar in the first half. Every game, this team gives away at least 6-8 points on the tiniest little things.

Every game.

For 16 years.

Until that stops, this doesn’t change.

But for the record, I do believe that it will at some point this season. Only question is, will it come too late to matter?

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October 27, 2022 8:34 pm

Not the first time for Adams 😂😂

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October 27, 2022 8:34 pm

Keegroin baby

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October 27, 2022 8:35 pm

I don’t see how Sabonis was a two-time all-star

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October 27, 2022 8:45 pm
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He’s lost a huge step in his game over the off-season apparently

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October 27, 2022 8:55 pm
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Maybe international play is a reason? Idk

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October 27, 2022 9:00 pm
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He looks about 5 years older. We got absolutely fleeced by Indiana

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October 28, 2022 6:49 am
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Not right now.

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October 27, 2022 8:35 pm

Two bull shit offensive foul calls.

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October 27, 2022 8:35 pm

the officiating these first few games has been outrageous

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October 27, 2022 8:37 pm

I hate the refs.

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October 27, 2022 8:38 pm
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Knee up while laying the ball in isn’t a “natural motion”? That was one of the first things I was taught!

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October 27, 2022 8:37 pm

If that is an offensive foul, then every challenged layup is an offensive foul.

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October 27, 2022 8:37 pm

Metu back in, shit

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October 27, 2022 8:39 pm

Metu shouldn’t have made it out of training camp, much less be playing major minutes with the starting unit.

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October 27, 2022 8:41 pm

one make up call need three more

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October 27, 2022 8:43 pm

OMG Kan-Dunky!

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October 27, 2022 8:44 pm
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I jumped off my couch for that one!

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October 27, 2022 8:45 pm

That was fun

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October 27, 2022 8:45 pm

What’s going on in here?

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October 27, 2022 8:46 pm

Bailout call after bailout call for this Memphis team

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October 27, 2022 8:47 pm

The NBA is rigged, we know this. It has always been rigged against us, the other team always gets every call and I am tired of it.

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October 27, 2022 8:50 pm
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It’s called weak interior defense my guy

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October 27, 2022 8:49 pm

Fox literally just scored on the entire grizzlies team.

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October 27, 2022 8:50 pm

The lead is back to eight just like that. Holmes was fouled, no call of course but Fox gets his 4th foul.

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October 27, 2022 8:51 pm

Bane and Clarke have been killing it

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October 27, 2022 8:52 pm

My god Keegan has got to stop letting his man go right by him every play.

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October 27, 2022 8:54 pm
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He just can’t guard Bane, who is too fast for him. Keegan should not be on covering fast wings. And that’s there this roster is really weak. Guarding faster wing players. Kings don’t have the size and speed for those guys

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October 27, 2022 8:55 pm
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lol

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October 27, 2022 8:55 pm

From down 2 to down 14 in the blink of an eye. Demoralizing

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October 27, 2022 8:57 pm

Davion actually made a shot? Make a wish!

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October 27, 2022 8:58 pm

These refs do not suck. They are clearly just following orders.

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October 27, 2022 8:58 pm

officials are garbage it’s well documented there should be an app

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October 27, 2022 8:59 pm
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They don’t suck. They are following orders from the NBA.

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October 27, 2022 9:00 pm
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And that sucks.

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October 27, 2022 9:00 pm
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Keep the Kings out of the playoffs? This the long plan that they discuss in those offseason meetings?

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October 27, 2022 9:01 pm
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I already upvoted your previous comment that said “These refs do not suck. They are clearly just following orders.”

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October 27, 2022 9:02 pm
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Wink

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October 27, 2022 8:58 pm

It’s common fucking sense that the ball was launched of his knee.

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October 27, 2022 9:00 pm

Can NBA add 10 refs, 5 each side. These fucks are blind

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October 27, 2022 9:01 pm
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No, they are just playing 8v5 basketball

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October 27, 2022 9:01 pm

Yep it’s totally the refs 😂😂

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October 27, 2022 9:39 pm
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Yep it’s the refs fault for 16 years. Grizz are much better and deserve to win .

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October 27, 2022 9:03 pm

Bane is never missing a shot against the Kings. Ever

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October 27, 2022 9:04 pm

Is KZ hurt? I’m not saying he is the answer but feel like he should be playing over metu and moneke as he does play defense…

Hey 0-82 is still in play! KANGZ

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October 27, 2022 9:05 pm
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I liked what I saw from Moneke. Created second chance efforts and took on the point of attack on defense.

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October 27, 2022 9:10 pm
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I think this is the first glimpse of Brown grasping a bit to find a rotational player. From having KZ as a starter to DNP and now playing Moneke and Metu is quite the change.

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October 27, 2022 9:05 pm

Still can’t stop teams from raining 3s. Amazing how many open 3s this teams gives up.

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October 27, 2022 9:05 pm

This crap defense is getting old quick. WTF is Holmes guarding Bane on the perimeter?

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October 27, 2022 9:06 pm

They have nobody who can guard Bane.

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October 27, 2022 9:06 pm

Brown sticking with the bench too long again and now they’re down double digits again after cutting it to 6

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October 27, 2022 9:11 pm
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He thinks he’s still in golden state as he looks down the bench and calls on metu. Lolol

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October 27, 2022 9:06 pm

Too easy off glass. Can’t anyone commit a hard foul to send a message

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October 27, 2022 9:06 pm

Looks like the Kings will be on Adam Silver’s list as a team that is tanking,

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October 27, 2022 9:08 pm
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The Haliburton trade put them in the clear on that. They’re just seen as inept by the league

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October 27, 2022 9:10 pm
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They might not be on the list but will be in the running by years end. This might be the most frustrating team in a while… Especially because of all the hype

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October 27, 2022 9:07 pm

Opposing teams gets easy shots. Kings to hard shots. Kings basketball.

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October 27, 2022 9:08 pm

This team is garbage. Goodnight

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October 27, 2022 9:09 pm
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Completely agree!

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October 27, 2022 9:09 pm

Memphis turning it on, good night

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October 27, 2022 9:09 pm

This team is trash.

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October 27, 2022 9:09 pm

This loss I’m currently chalking up to Mike Brown’s rotations (and the refs haven’t done us any favors either)

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October 27, 2022 9:11 pm
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I cannot believe this guy ^

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October 27, 2022 9:15 pm
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?

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October 27, 2022 9:13 pm
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You may be cutting and pasting a lot this year lol

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October 27, 2022 9:10 pm

116 points allowed….halfway through the 4th quarter. They don’t have the players capable to be a good defensive team, and that’s on the GM.

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October 27, 2022 9:12 pm
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Listening to these announcers talk about their defense is just pure comedy

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October 27, 2022 9:11 pm

The Grizzlies are clearly a better team than the Kings

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October 27, 2022 9:12 pm
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But the refs! It’s always their fault.

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October 27, 2022 9:14 pm
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The refs help it’s well documented

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October 27, 2022 9:12 pm
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So are roughly 20-25 other teams.

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October 27, 2022 9:15 pm
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What 20-25 other teams are better than the Grizzlies?

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October 27, 2022 9:11 pm

Ja isn’t even having a dominant game and the Grizzlies are cruising to 120+ points anyway lol

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October 27, 2022 9:25 pm
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They literally just let Bane close it out himself. Even down JJJ, Grizzlies use the Kings as a rest night for their No. 1. Yikes.

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October 27, 2022 9:12 pm

It’s wild to see how much bigger Adams is than Sabonis.

I’m beginning to think Sabonis is better suited as a 4.

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October 27, 2022 9:14 pm
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Sabonis is better suited in Indiana

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October 27, 2022 9:16 pm
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Gotta love having a 4 that can’t stretch the floor or protect the rim. Those are hard to acquire, so makes sense to trade a valuable asset for that

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October 27, 2022 9:21 pm
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No joke. Who is a better 4? Sabonis or Ben Simmons?

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October 27, 2022 9:32 pm
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Well, it’s a joke if the answer is Sabonis.

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October 27, 2022 9:12 pm

Sigh… “Mike Brown is a defense-minded coach”.

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October 27, 2022 9:14 pm

Fuck Ed Malloy

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October 27, 2022 9:16 pm

you CANNOT win with Sabonis he’s getting exposedddddd

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October 27, 2022 9:18 pm
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Hate to say it, but I think you’re right.

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October 27, 2022 9:30 pm
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I’m afraid that this might be true.

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October 27, 2022 9:34 pm
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You certainly can’t trade an asset like Haliburton for him knowing Sabonis’ faults and then do nothing to try and mitigate that. Then again, most saw the trade for what it was, a desperation move by a GM/FO to try and end the drought without really thinking too much about the long-term.

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October 27, 2022 9:16 pm

0-82 still a possibility! Have faith lol

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October 27, 2022 9:16 pm

LOL, Kayte: “the scoreboard does not reflect the game.”

YES IT DOES, KAYTE!

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October 27, 2022 9:17 pm
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Just like this dumpster fire, the announcing is also comedy

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October 27, 2022 9:21 pm
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Franchise is just unserious on all levels. Grizz had 66 points in the paint and shot over 40% from 3PT. Kings defense got absolutely destroyed

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October 27, 2022 9:27 pm
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thinking that bringing Morgan Reagan onto the game broadcast and moving Kayte to post game is the way to go

more objective, less of an apologist

Thomas being straight forward as usual

Thomas (jokingly) about talking about the Grizzlies too much: “This is Kings TV.”

Reagan: ” . . . you’re supposed to talk about the team out there that is good.”

I can’t imagine Kayte ever saying anything like that.

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October 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Can’t even hit shots when the other team isn’t defending them

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October 27, 2022 9:18 pm

I need to take a break from this team for my sanity. Same crap every year.

wake me up when they win a game

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October 27, 2022 9:18 pm
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You’ll be time traveling for sure

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October 27, 2022 9:18 pm

I know we’re not supposed to have huge expectations for this team but with this “defense” it’s hard to have any expectations at all. Even against the better teams they should at least try to show *some* heart and pride.

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October 27, 2022 9:20 pm

0-5 here we come.

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October 27, 2022 9:22 pm
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Probably lose to Charlotte too. So make it 0-6

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October 27, 2022 9:21 pm

This team is broken. Uggh. It’s not even really a lack of talent or even fit… it’s hard to describe the exact way they suck. I swear you could put prime Jordan on this team and he would score a ton of points while losing games.

At least I got one team going – Go Bills!

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October 27, 2022 9:23 pm

Yeah it’s really hard to point to any one thing. Just on every level, they aren’t as good as the team’s they’ve faced.

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October 27, 2022 9:27 pm

It is talent though. They play guys like Metu, Moneke, Okpala who should not be getting minutesbthat matter in a game. Holmes forgot how to play too. TD is sporadic, etc. It’s really bad talent that is getting minutes.

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October 27, 2022 9:29 pm
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Yes, the Kings are grossly talent deficient, as some of us have pointed out for a long time.

There’s a lot of guys on this roster that would be G League for most other NBA franchises.

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October 27, 2022 9:53 pm
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Of the players that actually see the floor in any sort of volume, who would be G-League on “most” other NBA franchises? The bench seems pretty comparable to any other NBA bench – Holmes & Monk have played high minutes on several other teams, Mitchell is young and highly drafted, Davis was a solid bench player in Miami (off-court issues aside).

KZ, Metu and Delly are arguably G-league players, but every team has a few of those. You only need 10 guys for a decent rotation and I do think Metu has enough combination of skill and size to be intriguing. KZ starting was weird, though, I will grant that.

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October 27, 2022 9:31 pm
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Feels like Brown is desperately looking for someone who can get a stop but that guy is just not on this roster. McNair needs to bring in a true 3&D wing and rim protector.

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