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Kings trade Davion Mitchell and Sasha Vezenkov to Raptors for Jalen McDaniels

The Kings got a wing!
By | 233 Comments | Jun 27, 2024

Mar 20, 2024; Toronto, Ontario, CAN; Toronto Raptors forward Jalen McDaniels (2) controls the ball as Sacramento Kings guard Davion Mitchell (15) tries to defend during the fourth quarter at Scotiabank Arena. Mandatory Credit: Nick Turchiaro-USA TODAY Sports

The Sacramento Kings are trading Davion Mitchell and Sasha Vezenkov to the Toronto Raptors in exchange for Jalen McDaniels, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. The Kings will also send the 45th pick in the draft.

This move clears some salary for the Kings, gives the Kings a wing with size, clears some of the guard logjam by sending out Davion Mitchell, and frees Sasha Vezenkov for a new opportunity. This move isn’t some franchise-altering home run, but it’s seems like a solid move to accomplish a few of the smaller needs of the team before free agency.

The selection of Devin Carter is also a little more palatable with Davion being traded, as Carter is basically a slightly bigger version of Davion.

Hopefully the Kings aren’t done dealing, though. We’ll continue to see what happens.

 

 

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Hobby916
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June 27, 2024 12:46 pm

LET HIM COOK!!!

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June 27, 2024 9:22 pm
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yeah, let Davion cook in Toronto.

SactownLegendz
June 28, 2024 5:00 pm
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This deal was pretty bad, did Divac phone this one in? 😂😂

SactownLegendz
June 28, 2024 5:03 pm
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Couldn’t they just have used Duarte instead of Davion, or declined his club option to save the money, they make almost the same. A former 9th overall pick for one of the poorest performers in the L last year is just bad. King should’ve been the team to get two 2nds, or an early 2nd/late 1st even.

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June 28, 2024 5:06 pm
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This

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RobHessing
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June 27, 2024 12:48 pm

The Kings got a wing!

A boneless wing, with no sauce.

The move (bad players and pick for worse player) saves the Kings $9m in payroll this year. This either means that there is a bigger deal on the horizon, or that they just expanded the beer garden at Sutter Health Park.

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June 27, 2024 1:25 pm
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I’ve never heard of Jalen McDaniels. If only it was Jaden McDaniels.

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June 27, 2024 2:31 pm
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As part of the deal, Jalen has agreed to change his name to Jaden, as reported by Jalen’s furious mother.

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June 27, 2024 2:44 pm
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Seriously, underrated comment

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June 27, 2024 12:50 pm

Costs less than $5m to waive him.

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June 27, 2024 12:53 pm

Bummer about the 45 pick. Was hoping for a PF there. Is McDaniels any good?

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June 27, 2024 12:54 pm
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Apparently not. Bench guy. Sounds like, as stated in other thread, opens up MLE and brings em under tax

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June 27, 2024 12:55 pm
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Nope. I can see us either waiving him, or using him as salary filler since he’s expiring.

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June 27, 2024 12:56 pm
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Two years ago he had ok numbers. Last year was a disaster for him.

It frees up a slot on the 15 man roster and provides a trade exception as well as about $6MM + in cap space and the Non Tax MLE.

Hope something else in the works.

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June 27, 2024 1:02 pm
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McDaniels is likely going to replace Kessler Edwards spot on the roster.

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June 27, 2024 12:55 pm

I didn’t realize that they needed to clear salary to have access to the non-taxpayer MLE. Guess that was the motivation, in part, of this trade.

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June 27, 2024 1:00 pm
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Hobby, I think that is right. The Non taxpayer MLE and the cap space. Perhaps two trade exceptions…I think. I’ll have to check that though.

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June 27, 2024 1:21 pm
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That doesn’t make sense. They use the non-taxpayer MLE if the over the tax at the end of the season. They should have the full MLE this summer since they were below that tax at the end of last season.

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June 27, 2024 1:28 pm
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Yeah, idk man, just what I heard.

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June 27, 2024 1:31 pm
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You have a link to that? I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that is how it is determined.

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June 27, 2024 1:33 pm
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Heard Deuce and Mo mention it on their live stream.

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June 27, 2024 1:39 pm
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Yeah, I beleive they are wrong The non-tax payer exception is determined at the end of the season when teams are either above or below the tax. The Kings have never been a tax paying team in the Vivek era. They have the full MLE.

Here is a link: It shows who has what exceptions and who is above each apron.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_maximum_space_optimized/dir/asc

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June 27, 2024 1:48 pm
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I remember discussing this during the season, and I thought they had the full MLE. Then it was brought up and made me question myself (do that a lot lately). They were getting close to the 1st apron though, right? (you looking at “Total Cap” or “Active” column to determine that?)

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June 27, 2024 1:53 pm
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No, there were far from the first apron at the end of last season. $12m under. They are just 23rd in payroll.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/sacramento-kings/overview/_/year/2024

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June 27, 2024 2:03 pm
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So what did the savings in salary of the McDaniels trade open up for them?

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June 27, 2024 2:18 pm
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From what I understand, absolutely nothing, but mayb eMonte is 4 chess moves ahead? IDK.

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June 27, 2024 1:29 pm
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They had to move Sasha and we, the stalwart members of the TKH community have all agreed, with rare exception, that Davion HAD to be moved. Monte McNair, Wes Welker and their staff obeyed our stance and made it happen.

It cost the 45th pick in a weak draft to have Raptors take those two and we get back Jalen (not Jaden) McDaniels as well.

sounds like a Kosher deal to me. Sort of Kessler Edwards acquisition but with more pork.

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June 27, 2024 1:31 pm

A kosher deal with more pork?
That’s meshugene!

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June 27, 2024 1:34 pm
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Oy Gevalt! Nothing gets by you!

Another way to think of this (in my mind, anyway) is that the cost of taking the extra money of Davion and Sasha was MickeyD (Jalen) and the pick 45. Given the cost difference, Toronto spend $6M on the 45th pick.

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Hobby916
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June 27, 2024 1:49 pm

and the Portland 2nd next year.

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June 27, 2024 12:56 pm

And that’s why you don’t shit the bed when every problem isn’t solved at once.

Look, when I’m the voice of reason, there is a serious problem.

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June 27, 2024 1:00 pm
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Yes, because that’s what most fans were doing. Not just questioning Monte based on last year

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June 27, 2024 1:26 pm
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Apparently everyone was losing it except for you, all hail Mr. Sims.

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June 27, 2024 2:28 pm
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As long as you feel good about what you are.

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June 27, 2024 1:01 pm

They got the wrong McDaniels!

I like the trade except that I think they should’ve kept the pick. I was hoping they would take a developmental big who could spend a year or two in the G-League.

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June 27, 2024 1:02 pm
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The pick might have needed to be attached to make the deal.

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June 27, 2024 1:05 pm
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Oh. I get it, I just want the team to spend some of those 2nds for a player that might be ready in a year or two. I don’t really like how the FO treats 2nd round picks.

I believe developmental players on multiple timelines are important to keep a team good over the long-haul and 2nd rounders playing the G-League are great for that.

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June 27, 2024 1:20 pm
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Just my guess –

But if the Kings really wanted a 2nd rounder that they couldn’t get in the G-League anyway, they could use cash considerations, but they spring the green, instead of being on the receiving end.

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June 27, 2024 1:01 pm

It is a bummer that Davion and Vez didn’t work out.

They both seemed like odd fits for todays NBA and/or this team.

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June 27, 2024 1:29 pm
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Davion def didn’t work out. The obvious pick was Sengun, but MM stuck to his M.O. as he always does.

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June 27, 2024 1:38 pm
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edit: wrong reply

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June 27, 2024 2:21 pm
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Great link. Thanks for this. At what point does a team start paying the luxury tax?

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June 27, 2024 2:27 pm
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I think I found it at that same sight.

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June 27, 2024 1:38 pm
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The consensus at the time seemed to be Moses Moody. Sengun (and others) were certainly in the conversation.

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June 27, 2024 5:35 pm
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My issue with Davion pic was- just too short. Players can shoot over him whoever and his shot was questionable. Why draft a limited player.

Amyway

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June 27, 2024 2:32 pm
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I think Sasha was misused and could’ve been a valuable contributor

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June 27, 2024 2:37 pm
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They will both be better in Toronto than they were here. /Hot take

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June 27, 2024 2:46 pm
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They’ll probably get more playing time at least. That said, I don’t think Sasha is very good and didn’t think he was very good before he got here so I’m doubtful he’s a contributing NBA player. I think Davion could actually be pretty good for Toronto.

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June 27, 2024 2:52 pm

Raptors also have a good number of guards, so he will have to find playing time there.

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June 27, 2024 2:57 pm
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I thought so too, but I guess we’ll see how the rest of his NBA career goes.

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June 27, 2024 3:57 pm
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Putting Sasha on an NBA roster is a misuse of Sasha.

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June 27, 2024 5:37 pm
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Agree. I thought the Sasha pic showed a disconnect between McN and Brown perhaps.

Brown style/and O he ran -defend-shoot or drive past and dish- a bit I’ll suited

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June 27, 2024 1:06 pm

Let’s gooo!!

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June 27, 2024 1:21 pm
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Soft.

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June 27, 2024 1:29 pm
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Here we select the best thread available we don’t comment for fit.

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June 27, 2024 1:33 pm

I’ll comment anywhere for cash considerations.

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June 27, 2024 1:34 pm
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Cash is (a) King

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June 27, 2024 2:55 pm
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Greg ruined my King’s draft complaints

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June 27, 2024 1:22 pm
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Can we pretend we have a second round pick? I have it on record at home and everything.

Also – if you look at the 1st round selection caption yesterday, they said the Kings had picks 13, 45, 48.

Ok – I am going back to pretending now

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June 27, 2024 1:15 pm

I guess this officially means Davion was a bad pick. I won’t say bust, but ultimately an unproductive use of an asset.

I will say I liked Davion when he was drafted. His college film had indications that he could be a play maker and run an offense. Unfortunately that did not come to fruition at the NBA level.

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June 27, 2024 1:38 pm

To be fair – the 2021 draft was pretty abysmal. There wasn’t much after pick 9 that would have moved the needle much, except for Sengun. That’s about it.

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June 27, 2024 3:45 pm
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I don’t know, Jalen Johnson had one heck of a breakout season and would look pretty good on the roster. As a totally unrelated sidenote, Sengun and Johnson were my 1 & 2 for the Kings at the pick.

The Sengun alternate timeline is an interesting one to think about. He’s basically the young version of Sabonis. If they take Sengun, do the Kings hold onto Haliburton and Sengun as their core because of “timelines?”

Herb Jones would also be nice to have on the roster, but no one was considering him at #9.

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June 27, 2024 4:27 pm

The pick of davion over Sengun still makes no sense to me. He just hit a home run getting hali the year prior, have fox already, and you take an undersized point guard over the big man of the future we needed. Only to turn around and trade that home run for basically the same archetype of sengun. I love domas but it makes no sense.

My suspension is Monte drafted davion with the intention of trading fox. On paper hali/davion fits a lot better than fox/hali due to hali’s shooting abilities playing. For whatever reason it may be, the team chose fox over hali. I have a hard time believing the pacers wouldn’t have taken fox

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June 27, 2024 4:28 pm
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Suspicion *

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You’re suspended for mistyping!

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June 27, 2024 4:47 pm
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That trade is still one of the crazier trades to wrap my head around…

At time, I thought without a doubt that Hali/Domas is a better pairing than Hali/Turner while thinking Fox/Turner would be a better pairing than Fox/Domas.

It could be that I don’t know anything or maybe that all four of those players are just really good and would’ve worked in any combination except the one they were already in.

You can’t deny that it definitely worked out for both teams; gotta love a win/win.

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June 27, 2024 1:16 pm

Somebody help me here. Was it really necessary to give them our 45th pick?

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June 27, 2024 1:20 pm
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It saves us the salary of the 45th pick, which is apparently also needed to free up enough money for the MLE.

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June 27, 2024 1:23 pm
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the 45 pick doesn’t have guaranteed salary.

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June 27, 2024 1:24 pm
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The 45th pick is highly unlikely to be an NBA player. The guy you sign into MLE space is definitionally an NBA player.

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June 27, 2024 1:26 pm

They had the MLE before the trade.

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June 27, 2024 1:32 pm
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If there’s a next deal, the $9m and roster spot freed up makes sense. If not, it doesn’t. And something to be considered is that at least some of that $9m will go to the additional open roster spot created by this trade.

At present, it’s a cash / payroll grab, at least until such time that this new found yard sale scratch is used on something else.

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June 27, 2024 1:35 pm
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From what I understand, the $9M saved does not get them below the cap, so they have the same MLE they had before the trade. Same spending power, just with lower overhead. It stinks of a cash grab.

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June 27, 2024 1:38 pm
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i do wonder/have been about shackles put in MM because Vivek won’t go over tax?

We shall see.

Be careful, your questions might be flagged by negative police.

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June 27, 2024 2:07 pm
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With the new Monk contract, I believe using the MLE would have put the Kings over or close to the 1st Apron. This ownership is only a couple of years in to being willing to be operate over the cap. We’ll see if they’ve graduated to living over the tax yet.

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June 27, 2024 2:17 pm
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That only would apply to the 2025-26 season…if they were still above the apron by then.

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June 27, 2024 4:20 pm
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Right but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are not willing to start that clock coming off this season.

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June 27, 2024 4:25 pm
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True, why go into the tax with a team that didn’t make the playoffs, but when ownership never goes into the tax I have to question if playoffs are even a priority.

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June 27, 2024 5:00 pm
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They are not trying until they decide pay up like all the real teams do.

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June 27, 2024 5:02 pm
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This year is the first time that questioning ownership not going into the tax is a viable discussion. Given their past frugality, it may take the FO some time to convince them of the cost to contend. Monte has experience with this dance while with Houston.

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June 27, 2024 4:19 pm
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It certainly does. But Davion and Sasha were not going to get playing time next year. If I could pay two useless employees $12M or just one useless employee $5M, I know which one I would opt for.

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June 27, 2024 4:23 pm
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I would have like to use those contracts in a larger deal. There was no rush to move those guys, Davion especially, since his deal was expiring this season.

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June 27, 2024 8:59 pm
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Maybe they are trying to get to 48 million dollars.

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June 27, 2024 1:25 pm
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Ah. Gotcha.

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June 27, 2024 2:31 pm
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Do we need another too small G league guard?

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June 27, 2024 2:34 pm

Think of it as Monty McNair being the Oprah Winfrey of undersized guards. Oh, we can pick one here and we can pick one there. We can pick one everywhere you get a guard I get a guard as long as they’re an under size guard.

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June 27, 2024 1:18 pm

WOOF!

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June 27, 2024 1:19 pm

What an absolute fucking waste of assets to simply save money.

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June 27, 2024 1:23 pm
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What assets? the 45th pick? Sasha and Mitchell were pure liabilities at this point – Sasha wasn’t coming back and Mitchell would just be taking minutes from Carter and Jones.

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June 27, 2024 1:26 pm

The move doesn’t get the Kings below the cap, so what does it accomplish other than saving ownership money. They have the same spending power they had before the trade.

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June 27, 2024 1:28 pm
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Don’t think that’s accurate. From what I read, it takes the Kings below the luxury tax, unlocking the full MLE and how much they can take in a trade.

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June 27, 2024 1:30 pm
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No. They had the full MLE because there were below the tax at the end of last season. That is when it is determined, just like the salary tax.

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June 27, 2024 1:31 pm

The Non taxpayer MLE allows them to take back more in salary then they send out, a key to the next step imo, and it provides additional salary cap to be below the first apron by an additional $6MM + in addition to the current $4MM + under the salary cap after the signing of Malik which will occur shortly when FA officially opens up.

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June 27, 2024 1:42 pm

The emergence of Keon + the drafting of Carter + the potential of Jones made Davion expendable.
Saha was a risk and a hope that did not pan out at all.
this isa sunk cost issue- don’t follow money with bad money.
The 45th pick? nice to have that but what are the chances? Maybe Toronto insisted on this in order to facilitate the salary dump by the Kings
A MLE will be a better player than either of the two traded and the 45th as well.

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June 27, 2024 2:32 pm

It is unfortunate that Jones is still here.

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June 27, 2024 4:21 pm

I like Jones. A lot of potential there and could be used as soon as this year.

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June 27, 2024 4:59 pm
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Always the potential.

…in three more years…if this player does what we think….then we make the playoffs.

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June 27, 2024 5:41 pm

This is a problem. Monte hasn’t done a great job of acquiring assets.

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June 27, 2024 1:30 pm
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On the surface I agree it seems like a waste and even bad return, but let’s see what’s in the works that may have precipitated this trade.

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June 27, 2024 4:22 pm
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Monty might have something up his sleeve.A big trade, the MLE and the BAE. We will see.

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June 27, 2024 4:25 pm
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My guess is incremental improvement, nothing big.

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June 27, 2024 4:26 pm
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Ladies and gentlemen, your Incremental Kings!

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June 27, 2024 2:04 pm
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You assume someone else was interested in our garbage and a 2nd round pick is far from an asset. They needed to get rid of a guard and Sasha was never playing for the Kings again. Sounds like a good move to me. Not to mention we get a wing back in return which we could surely use. Don’t sleep on McDaniel, he may not light up the scoreboard but he can play D. Anyone that plays for San Diego State kows how to play D or they don’t play, period!!!

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June 27, 2024 2:24 pm
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The dude played less than both Sasha and Davion on a Toronto team that won 25 games. This trade wasn’t about acquiring him. He’s not even worth the 2 second rounders that were also sent out in the trade.

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June 27, 2024 2:30 pm
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That shows me that the value of Davion and Sasha was terrible. They had to attach the 45 and the 2025 PDX 2nd rounder to dump their salaries.

I also did not see a path to playing time for either next season. Keon pushed Davion down the list, and I think Huerter probably sticks around, for now.

Sasha situation needed to be remedied. There was too much noise about him this offseason.

I wanted them to not give up as much as they did, but apparently that was the price to dump them.

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June 27, 2024 2:35 pm
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I like Huerter and hope plays before Keon does.

That being said…I don’t think anyone will make a deal for him until he shows he can play again. The injury and last years stats are keeping him here for now.

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June 27, 2024 2:41 pm

I like Huerter and hope plays before Keon does.

I like Huerter and I think he’s just fine coming off the bench as a SF but in no way, shape, or form, should he get on the court before Keon.

On this team with this roster, Keon > Huerter.

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June 27, 2024 3:13 pm
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At least we have two players good enough to argue over.

The entire roster should be that way.

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June 27, 2024 4:24 pm
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I agree. Keon earned that spot. Period.

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June 27, 2024 5:08 pm
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After Huerter went down with an arm that was basically amputated.

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June 27, 2024 5:43 pm
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Get rid of Heurter. Last year. Please. He’s not worth shit in the playoffs. Move on. Now

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June 27, 2024 7:19 pm
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I fully support discussing actual NBA players and their playoff performance. I hope that discussion grows. It is a great thing that Keon has developed to this point in his career.

I think both players have trade value. I don’t think Huerter can be dealt this year. He isn’t going to be looked at as real until he plays again. That leaves Keon as the trade candidate.

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June 27, 2024 2:34 pm
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We moved two useless pieces for one useless piece. Room for one more decent player.

This is the win for me.

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June 27, 2024 2:33 pm
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The Kings trash is worth more than gold here.

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June 27, 2024 4:22 pm
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He was good on D against Fresno State not much in the NBA

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June 27, 2024 5:09 pm
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I will bet good money that the Kings starting five cannot hold Fresno State below 90.

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June 27, 2024 2:06 pm
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Paciencia y fe, hombre. These moves aren’t made in a vacuum. I highly doubt McNair freed up $9M in salary just for the hell of it. Just let the offseason play out before we judge.

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June 27, 2024 2:21 pm
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But the money saved doesn’t give him anymore spending power. It’s just money saved above the cap and below the tax.

I really hope my pessimism is wrong, hopefully maybe time will tell.

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June 27, 2024 4:27 pm
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Just an idea. The Jazz drafted Filipowshi. Because of that it might make John Collins avaiable for trade.Just an idea.

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June 27, 2024 2:32 pm
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I don’t think Davion and Sasha are assets for this team.

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June 27, 2024 1:28 pm

Subtraction by subtraction! Or maybe Monte ‘Under the Cap, Boss!’ McNair really thought he got his brother. Now that would have been a trade. This is his stock in trade, pun intended. Get Sabonis, trade Holmes just to get rid of him. Get Carter, dump Mitchell for a guy whose physique makes Haliburton’s look like LeBron. Under the cap, boss! So far, so meh.

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June 27, 2024 1:40 pm

Monte doesn’t get enough criticism for his complete waste of a lottery pick in Davion. Especially considering Fox and Haliburton were already on the roster.

Sasha was a dud as well and it’s pretty wild that the organization went all out to recruit a 3rd string player.

I don’t have alot of faith in Monte putting together a roster that makes sense. He’s had a ton of misses that get brushed aside too easily by fans. The same issue that was present last summer (too many guards, not enough wings, Harrison Barnes) are still the same issues this summer. Why would I believe he can get something done to fix the mess of a roster he’s put together?

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June 27, 2024 1:52 pm
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Pretty sure Davion has been discussed on this site as being a bad pick, even at the time of the draft, for a couple years now.

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June 27, 2024 2:43 pm
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Yes, Monte has not done a good job of accumulating assets with Davion pick and everyone picked up last year. His lack of assets has but him in a bind. He’s gotta thread the needle.

Great first year. Very questionable last year. This is why people are questioning him and wondering if he’s doing the right thing this year.

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June 27, 2024 4:30 pm
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The Kings still have Barnes, Huerter, Duarte and maybe Jones. Should be enough to get a good PF next to Sabonis. Could also get Isaiah Stewart from the Pistons. Well see.

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June 27, 2024 1:56 pm

I apologize for the incompleteness of my last comment. Monte traded:

Two players
And a draft pick

For one guy who played 10 minutes a game last year
And has had 5 years to prove himself and his minutes and stats have declined each of the last two years, with three teams

I did it boss! I got us out of the luxury tax!
Good job Monte. Gotta go; firing up the Gulfstream to hang with John Fisher in Vegas! You just paid for my plane!

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June 27, 2024 2:02 pm
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Point of order: two draft picks

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June 27, 2024 4:32 pm
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He too could be added to above names. We also have Edwards but is a FA.

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June 27, 2024 2:03 pm

OK so have up two serviceable players and a pick for someone who won’t crack the rotation. All to give us $$ room to potentially bring on new guys. Got it.

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June 27, 2024 2:11 pm
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The two players were serviceable and highly expendable. Not saying it was great deal, but Davion’s time was coming to an end, and Sasha obviously was not in the plans for Coach Brown.

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June 27, 2024 4:33 pm
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And he didn’t want to be.

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June 27, 2024 2:16 pm

Ok, I’ve been scoring the interwebs in hopes of clearing the air on this trade and it’s rationale. This is my armchair amateur GM interpretation, so take it with a gain of salt.

1) The Kings were above the cap and below the tax BEFORE the trade, as determined how they ended the 2024 season.

2) That means they had the Full MLE and b-annual exception BEFORE the trade and the same AFTER the trade. There is no change in their spending ability

3) That salary saved DOES NOT get the team below the cap, so they have no additional spending power in free agency or trades

4) Now, the Kings WERE slated to go above the tax line ONCE they signed Monk and Carter to his rookie deal, BUT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TAKE AWAY THEIR FULL MLE THIS SUMMER.

5) The Kings can operate above the tax line for the entire season if they so wish. Tax penalties do not come down until the end of the 2025 season. That means they have until the deadline to get back below the tax, if they do go over it. Only 2025-26 full MLE is determined by this upcoming year’s tax threshold.

6) All in all, they money saved by this trade does not give the Kings any more spending power and really only saves ownership money because they are hovering between the cap and the tax.

Take it for what it is worth, but I feel that this is the second straight draft the Monte has had to attach draft capital to a trade in order to move contracts that he signed. The only reason for this was to save money.

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June 27, 2024 2:21 pm
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If they were to add the MLE and BAE salaries to the roster before the Davion trade, would that have put them over the tax line?

Does the salary being saved via the trade help them stay under the tax after using the MLE and BAE?

Does it keep them farther away from the tax if they took back additional salary from a Huerter/Barnes, etc trade?

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June 27, 2024 2:29 pm
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1) Yes, but that comes with no penalties this summer. If they remain above the tax at the end of next season, then the lose the MLE for the summer of 2025. Also, if they use the Full MLE and Bi-annual AFTER the trade, they still fall above the tax line.

2) It may, it all depends if the Kings use the full MLE and bi-annual exception. They could use just some of each and duck the tax, but it’s tight.

3) They can take on the same amount of salary in any Huerter/Barnes as they could before the trade since they are in the same above the cap but below the tax threshold. Nothing really changed.

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June 27, 2024 2:31 pm
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I guess we will have to wait and see what happens next. Hopefully a starting level PF is acquired, or a better backup C than Len and McGee.

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June 27, 2024 2:43 pm
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I would rather see us go for a power forward that will play well with Sabonis. But I am a fan of Alex Len and I think he brings a lot of good qualities for a back up center.

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June 27, 2024 2:44 pm
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Kings can sign as many guys they want to vet-minimum deals, so of Len takes that, he could be back.

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June 27, 2024 2:47 pm
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I agree with you both, Len is perfectly acceptable as a backup C on a vet-min deal (ideally, he is be the 3rd C).

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June 27, 2024 2:46 pm
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I like Alex too. If they can improve the roster spot for relatively cheap, then I hope they do.

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June 27, 2024 10:24 pm
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It is not the tax that Monte worries about. It is the 1st apron. There are certain conditions that will trigger the hard cap at the first apron. Using the MLE is one of the conditions. Basically this team will be hard capped at around 178M.

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June 27, 2024 2:20 pm

Hmmm…. Patrick Williams for the MLE?
(edit – nvm, just found the Bulls extended the QO for $13 mil to Williams, which is what the MLE is worth)

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June 27, 2024 2:25 pm

I say give the kid a chance. We have given bums chances before…BUMS. He may be a good fit and I have a feeling MM isn’t done. There is a smart move coming soon.

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June 27, 2024 2:36 pm
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I can’t find one thing about his game that excites me. He’s a less defensive minded Corey Brewer.

Hoping that there is another boot that drops here, and that the boot is filled with substantially more talent.

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June 27, 2024 2:39 pm
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That boot would be the only thing that redeems the trade, otherwise…yikes.

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June 27, 2024 2:44 pm
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I didn’t know who he was. I had to look at his college and NBA highlights. Highlights are very deceiving, but he didn’t look terrible. No he’s not the greatest either. I have seen worse in a Sacramento uniform.

I am with you on there has to be another move or two.

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June 27, 2024 2:49 pm
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Guessing he never plays a minute as a King.

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June 27, 2024 2:26 pm

Keep dumping the trash to make room for the power forward we need.

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June 27, 2024 2:49 pm

That’s one way to look at it 👌

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June 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Let me guess, the superfans are on their way to the airport to greet him.

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June 27, 2024 2:48 pm
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That would be a sight. All 5 of them on the tarmac with signs.

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June 27, 2024 2:51 pm
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And the signs should read, “Welcome Jamal Shead!”

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June 27, 2024 2:54 pm
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Another undersized PG?!?!?

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June 27, 2024 2:59 pm
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You know what tickles me a little? Whenever we talk about the glut of guards on this roster, we do so without ever bringing up Duarte.