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Kings 115, Bucks 128: Welp, that was a basketball game – Kings drop 7th in a row

Welcome to a recap of a basketball game.

The Milwaukee Bucks defeated the Sacramento Kings 128-115 Sunday night in a game defined by another dismal performance by the defense, specifically in the second quarter when the Bucks outscored them 42-31.

It is the Kings seventh loss in a row.

By the end of the second quarter the Kings found themselves down 70-56 and in a similar position they have found themselves in time after time.

The Kings had no answer for Giannis Antetokounmpo going to the paint and sent him to the line for 24 shots, he made 19 of those. He finished the game with 38 points, 18 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and a whopping +29. Tyrese Haliburton led the Kings in scoring with 23 points to go along with 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 block. DaQuan Jeffries also had a nice game with 18 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and 1 block.

The Kings made a slight run in the third quarter with the Bucks cooling off from the field, but they kept missing threes (they finished 12-33 from three as a team) and the Bucks began hitting shots again with Antetokounmpo off the floor. A few nice plays from Haliburton and a nice look-off fake for a driving layup by Kyle Guy were some bright spots in the third.

The Kings were down 99-82 after three.

Guy’s impressive play continued into the fourth quarter as the three guard lineup of him, Haliburton and Joseph got the ball moving from side to side. (Guy finished with 9 points in 9 minutes.) Midway through the fourth with Antetokounmpo and De’Aaron Fox re-entering the game, the Bucks still had a 113-96 lead.

Jeffries continued his solid performance by playing within the flow of the game and taking what came to him. Haliburton also kept draining threes and floaters late in the game, doing what he could to give the team some life. The Bucks are just simply too efficient offensively and familiar with each other for a defense like the Kings to put up much of a fight though.

The Kings had six players (Marvin Bagley, Richaun Holmes, Fox, Hield, Jeffries and Haliburton) score in double digits. Fox finished with 13 points and 10 assists. Holmes (it was nice to see him back) finished with 11 points and 11 rebounds.

Here are some other notes:

No Nemanja

Despite his recent productive play, Nemanja Bjelica didn’t get any run in this game even with Holmes being in foul trouble. Instead, Jabari Parker logged 16 minutes, scoring 6 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

Buddy Struggles

Hield just flat out doesn’t look like the Buddy we always used to feel confident about when the ball left his hands on a shot. Tonight, he went 2-10 from three and 3-13 from the floor. He did go to the line for six free throws and made five of them.

Rebounding

The Bucks out-rebounded the Kings 56-43.

The Big Ragu

The almost-King, Donte DiVincenzo, had a nice scoring night – 7-12 for 16 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and 1 block.

Next Up

The Kings will take on the Brooklyn Nets Tuesday. Are they any good?

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TheGrantNapear
February 21, 2021 9:03 pm

Tanks!

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February 21, 2021 9:07 pm

In a world rocked by a one in a century pandemic, at least we have normalcy in Kings fandom…

http://www.tankathon.com/

TheGrantNapear
February 21, 2021 10:28 pm
Reply to  916ickness

A half game from the fourth worst record.
Extremely mpressive considering the current top 3 worst teams are pretty much locks (det, cle, minny).

SelecaoKOJ
February 21, 2021 9:15 pm

No trades will probably happen until after the ASB. Kings will play out this stretch Nets, Knicks, Hornets, Pistons, Lakers, Blazers. 3-3 is optimistic. 2-4 is probably what happens.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 9:31 pm
Reply to  SelecaoKOJ

I think trade pieces (barnes, buddy, holmes, belly) sit a few key games like Knicks and hornets and we only win the Pistons game.

Full tank is in great by McNair at this point.

He is going to try and stack youth and picks around fox, hali and Bagley (he’ll give him until at least the next deadline).

It’d be a massive play if we could get Robert Williams (C) and Nesmith (SF) from Boston.

Build around a legit youth lineup with real potential in:

Fox
Hali
Nesmith
Bagley
Williams

Backup youth:
Guy
Ramsey
Jefferies
Woodard
Metu

Let those ten soak up MASSIVE minutes after the break.

Last edited 12 days ago by MidtownMike
SunBreakTheDawn
February 21, 2021 9:45 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

Getting Timelord and Nesmith for Barnes or Buddy is one of the trades I really like.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 9:51 pm

It’d be barnes, they don’t want buddy.

I agree, would be a huge get and almost perfect trade for both teams

TheGrantNapear
February 21, 2021 10:30 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

I’d prefer a 1st to Nesmith. Haven’t seen anything from Nesmith that really intrigues me.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 10:33 pm
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

Go to the Boston boards, he has been playing much better defense of late and his shot is too good not to translate. Their first is going to be deep in the 20s. Give me Nesmith

eddie41
February 22, 2021 8:24 am
Reply to  MidtownMike

Nesmith has negligible value now. Probably offers nothing more than what Justin James offers. And people are saying his IQ and awareness is bad.

MidtownMike
February 22, 2021 9:37 am
Reply to  eddie41

If you think Nesmith and Justin James offer the same value to nba GM’s you have zero clue on nba value 😂

Terrible take

eddie41
February 22, 2021 1:19 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

Guy never won a single SEC game. 0 and 20. Bad team defender, so not sure how that helps on D. No playmaking ability either. Got drafted in the best possible situation and he’s squandering that opportunity, so not sure why one would think he’d fare better with the Kings. He’s a hot potato. Boston would rather give him away because they can find a better free agent for 3.5 million.

BestHyperboleEver
February 22, 2021 11:10 am
Reply to  MidtownMike

I’d rather have a 1st as well. I expect that Boston pick to end up in the early 20s and there are going to be people available there that I would prefer over Nesmith. That said, Nesmith clearly has value and isn’t a bad return in any way. Really, any “pick-two” combination of Williams, Nesmith, and 1st(s) would be fine by me.

RORDOG
February 22, 2021 11:29 am

Williams is probably my top trade target from a “who has the most potential upside but is also gettable” perspective.

Klam
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February 21, 2021 9:22 pm

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Jman1949
February 21, 2021 9:32 pm
Reply to  Klam

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LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 21, 2021 9:22 pm

Try listing the winning team’s score first, even if the Kings lose, like every other sports reporting outlet in the world.

Only soccer moms say their team’s score first regardless of outcome … “they won us 2-4 but we all got to have a rice krispy treat after the game.”

So like this … Bucks 128, Kings 115

As for the game/state of the team at the moment … WTF

Remember when we were .500 and looking like we turned the corner … good times.

Oh well, at least Haliburton had a good game.

TheGrantNapear
February 21, 2021 10:31 pm

Oddly enough I agree with this eventhough I didn’t notice it upon initial reading.

RORDOG
February 22, 2021 2:15 pm

I think the Kings should give us all Rice Krispie treats after games

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 9:31 pm

The tank marches on. I’m assuming they’ll play a competitive game again at some point but probably not until they’re fully healthy again.

Haliburton is good. Fox looks disinterested and/or hurt. Daquan continues to look like a real NBA player which is cool.

On to the next one.

Jman1949
February 21, 2021 9:44 pm

I think Fox tweaked his hip late in the Memphis game when there was no point in still having him in the game. He was wincing and rubbing at his hip as he limped up the court. Since then, he has not shown his normal explosiveness.

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 9:51 pm
Reply to  Jman1949

Yeah tonight he barely attacked the rim in the second half and something seems off. I think he’s still pretty inconsistent but this seems like a little more than that. Either way it’s uuuuuuuuugly right now.

Marty
February 21, 2021 9:42 pm

The fact you can just dribble cross court into another player, and they get called for a foul is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen. What a shit show that first quarter was for the refs. Just a real joy killer. Cue up the replays of both Bagley and Holmes venting after those dumb ass calls.

Bagley isn’t “as much” a liability now. His jumper looks pretty damn sweet.

Fox is no all star.

Buddy, worst contract in the NBA?

I’ve seen enough. Draper is better than Jones. He’s actually got some critique in him which is nice.

Doug sure likes to say “put him in the hole” a lot. It’s only one word from, “put him in the books.”
((((((sigh))))).

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 9:53 pm
Reply to  Marty

Man I couldn’t disagree more on the Draper/Jones thing. He’s unlistenable for me. I just can’t stand it. His energy is so high for a team that’s so awful. If there’s critique I must’ve missed it. All I hear is him cheering every made basket down 20.

Marty
February 21, 2021 9:57 pm

That’s wild. I feel like Jones is WAY more amped up than Draper.

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:18 pm
Reply to  Marty

Yeah I don’t know Draper just drives me insane. Most of what Doug says is barely intelligible but I feel like Jones is doing a bit during Kings games so it doesn’t bother me much. Plus when they actually do something noteworthy, I feel like he usually nails the call.

Otis
February 22, 2021 6:39 am
Reply to  Marty

Agree Marty. Feel like Draper actually tones Doug down a bit, and Jones revs him up.

Regardless, Christie is the weakest link here.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 9:59 pm

Making y’all miss grant haha 😂

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:19 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

Oh boy that is definitely not the case lol. I do miss Jerry though! Have I mentioned how much I love that we have him on TKH?

Adamsite
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February 21, 2021 10:06 pm

Same. Draper seems like a color guy. I’m not sold on his play by play. Jones seems more apt at leading the game with Doug as color.

TheGrantNapear
February 21, 2021 10:34 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Grant and Jerry > DC, Draper, Jones

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:19 pm
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

I mean, Jerry>>>>>>>>>>>>Everybody else

satdawg
February 22, 2021 12:56 am
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

Grant is way better than these two clowns

AmateurNerd
February 22, 2021 10:51 am
Reply to  satdawg

Grant had a lot of skill as an announcer. Unfortunately, he’s such a turd on a personal level that it became impossible to separate his skill from his stench.

Pistola916
February 22, 2021 12:19 pm
Reply to  satdawg

I will say I do prefer Grant’s delivery on the broadcast than Jones/Draper. Beyond that I don’t have much to say about Grant.

Otis
February 22, 2021 6:40 am
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

That’s all Jerry. He could carry any of these guys.

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:15 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Yeah this is a really good point. I feel like it’s just both of them being really excited and nobody is actually calling the game.

Amonk81
February 21, 2021 11:53 pm

Yes. Felt like Cummingham(?) was only real play by play guy. Doug was better w him too cause Dougs b-ball analysis is good. Jerry was the best.

I listened to Milwaukee announcers. So nice to not hear the constant propping up of Bagley. Meanwhile he’s getting manhandled by Portis when it mattered.

Gregoryl
February 21, 2021 11:32 pm
Reply to  Marty

Trying to keep up with Doug’s constant shilling must be exhausting.

Otis
February 22, 2021 6:37 am
Reply to  Marty

Jones is better than Draper. But Draper is better with Christie.

They really should just put Doug in the studio or on the radio with Gary. Hell, let Kayte do the color with Jones.

ForKingsandCountry
February 22, 2021 7:25 am
Reply to  Otis

I had never thought about this, but you may have nailed it. Is it possible that Kayte and Doug just need to switch spots?

Adamsite
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February 22, 2021 7:56 am

I’ve thought Kayte and Coz could be a good duo to call the games.

Carl
February 22, 2021 8:58 am

Kayte would 100% be better than Doug. I wish she would spend less time trying to please players and her bosses, because she’s got a good basketball mind, and she’s also a good broadcaster.

Kingsguru21
February 22, 2021 10:06 am
Reply to  Carl

You’ve been smoking the good shit again, haven’t you Spackler?

Marty
February 22, 2021 11:55 am
Reply to  Carl

I don’t thing you’re wrong Carl, but I think it’s a little unfair to Kayte to just assume she’d be great at color. It is a skill and we just don’t know.

I wouldn’t bet against her though, and just by removing Doug it would be better. Whoever just said Koz and Kayte might be on to something, I’m 100% down for that. I used to work with Koz on HPL live and I straight up love that dude. I’m in.

SunBreakTheDawn
February 21, 2021 9:47 pm

Young players are finally getting some run. Too bad Metu is hurt, now could’ve been a great stretch for him. Glad to see Woodard II and Ramsey playing well in the bubble. Another losing season but I’m feeling good about it.

RikSmits
February 21, 2021 10:12 pm

Yes! And they are slowly bringing Parker along, but I bet he’ll be starting in two to three weeks time. He should be in the best shape of his life again by then, just like in the preseason.

It will be fascinating to see what we have in him. He didn’t fall down on his first defensive play this time, so the progress is clear!

kingsforaday
February 22, 2021 6:43 am
Reply to  RikSmits

HKKF’d

Don’t get the satirical response to SBTD’s post but ok.

RikSmits
February 22, 2021 7:17 am
Reply to  kingsforaday

Satire and cynism are my default coping mechanisms with most Kings related issues.

Specificially in relation to the hapiness with the youth movement, it’s not hard to be satirical when guys like CoJo, Whiteside and Parker get significant burn. Also, with all due respect to Metu, Woodard and Ramsey, I bellieve that their chances of being significant contributors on a contender are not great. But I could be wrong.

My optimism about this losing season will be contingent on what this team will look like after the trade deadline.

kingsforaday
February 22, 2021 8:56 am
Reply to  RikSmits

Hey any and all coping mechanisms to put up with kings fandumb are approved. I just didn’t get a sense of unbridled optimism from sbtd’s post but that’s ok. It sure feels to me like we are still 2 years away from being 2 years away (from being 2 years away…oh dear).

CarmichaelRave
February 21, 2021 9:49 pm

I guess we’ll enjoy that #8 pick and call it a day. Back to regularly scheduled programming.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 9:53 pm
Reply to  CarmichaelRave

We are vaulting up the tankathon rankings don’t you worry

Otis
February 22, 2021 6:41 am
Reply to  MidtownMike

LOL. All you Charlie Browns think you’re going to get to kick the football this time.

MidtownMike
February 22, 2021 9:39 am
Reply to  Otis

Great take dotis

Otis
February 22, 2021 9:57 am
Reply to  MidtownMike

“dotis”
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RORDOG
February 22, 2021 11:01 am
Reply to  Otis

It will be interesting to see if McNair is willing to do what it takes to maximize their lottery odds. Like does he consider a less than optimal trade package for Barnes based on the added benefit of obtaining a few more ping pong ball combinations?

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ForKingsandCountry
February 22, 2021 11:19 am
Reply to  RORDOG

I think we are going to find out what Monte’s larger plan is in the next couple weeks. My guess is he’d be fine moving Buddy for next to nothing but that he’ll want at least something back for Barnes.

RORDOG
February 22, 2021 11:45 am

Yeah it will definitely be interesting to see how aggressive McNair is in the next month. I’m actually kinda surprised he’s basically only made one trade so far.

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 9:55 pm
Reply to  CarmichaelRave

We’re tied for fifth at the moment which I right around where I pegged them before the season. My guess is they finish somewhere between 3 and 7 but with the flattened lottery odds that’s fine.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 9:57 pm

After McNair trades some vets I feel pretty good about being top 5

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:21 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

Yeah I think this roster is real bad and we’ll be right around a top-5 lotto spot when all is said and done. Plus as you said, the trades are coming.

Gregoryl
February 21, 2021 11:34 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

If Monte can get some value for an injured HB or an awful buddy, he would really impress me.

MidtownMike
February 22, 2021 12:28 am
Reply to  Gregoryl

Barnes value is easy. Buddy value would be impressive lol

RikSmits
February 21, 2021 10:06 pm

I suddenly realized who had the most to gain by prematurely leaking the Bogi S&T; Donte DiVicenzo! That way he could avoid going from a contender to the Kangz, from Cream City to Bball Hell.

Kosta
February 21, 2021 10:18 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

Yeah, if not him, maybe his agent…?

PlayoffModeT
February 21, 2021 11:09 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

$6M a year might have done it.

Omr_14
February 21, 2021 10:14 pm

Vlade left a mess behind so I ain’t even mad, as long as McNair and Co. can continue to assemble solid talent with our picks.

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MyNeighborTurturro
February 21, 2021 10:22 pm

Here’s the obligatory “thanks _____” (Greg, in this case) post. I gave up and turned to Always Sunny a few minutes into the third quarter. You had to listen to the final buzzer. God’s work.

Kosta
February 21, 2021 10:34 pm

This was a non-épico game. I did not slap like.
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RikSmits
February 21, 2021 10:53 pm

TWolves fired Saunders.

Klam
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February 21, 2021 10:55 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

And hired an assistant from the Raptors.

Jman1949
February 22, 2021 7:55 am
Reply to  Klam

Without giving associate head coach/defensive coordinator David Vanterpool at least an interim look. He was previously an assistant with Portland, and here’s what Lillard and McCollum had to say:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/damian-lillard-cj-mccollum-question-timberwolves-decision-to-pass-over-david-vanterpool-for-coaching-job/

jlandweh
February 21, 2021 11:02 pm

Welp at least we will get a decent pick hopefully.

I do agree that basketball isn’t fun for this team anymore. Whether that’s injuries, fatigue, tremendous lack of talent, lack of confidence, poor chemistry, who knows…but the kings are not having fun and it shows in their lack of defense and energy. Honestly, it’s made the games almost unwatchable. When the energy spark is Joseph, Whiteside, or Bjelly (in previous games)…that’s not good.

Until a trade happens that sparks this team, Luke Walton gets fired, or they somehow are gifted with extra practice time again-this is going to be a loooooooong 2nd half of a season.

There could be winning habits developing while losing…but it doesn’t look like that is happening anymore. That’s the discouraging thing.

MidtownMike
February 21, 2021 11:20 pm
Reply to  jlandweh

McNair should have his sights on some assistant coaches already. Pull the trigger on some trades, fire Walton, hire his new coach from a pool of successful assistants, then let the new guy work with the youth the entire second half of the season and discuss the roster in the off-season

ForKingsandCountry
February 21, 2021 11:23 pm
Reply to  MidtownMike

I really don’t think Walton is gone until the off season but we’ll see. If they lose like 10-12 in a row maybe they actually will fire him but I sort of doubt it.

Brown.says.Good.or.Bad
February 22, 2021 1:28 am

This is bad

AmateurNerd
February 22, 2021 11:15 am

Eh, idk. Firing him mid-season wouldn’t do much to dispel the Dysfunkshunal Kangzz narrative, and if the season is a tank job anyway, hiring a new captain for the Titanic after the iceberg’s been hit won’t do much.

Amonk81
February 21, 2021 11:23 pm
Reply to  jlandweh

This all points to bad coaching and organization. I look at Walton and Bagley the same way. Neither are going to bring consistent winning, so quit trying to see what they
might become. Keep Hali/Fox and figure out the rest.

The O Luke runs still isn’t an O and seems like the only one running it regularly, and not just dribble drive maybe dish, is Haliburton. Ball doesn’t move unless he’s got it. Fox is good but my fear is when he loses some athleticism, what can he do? Gotta learn to run the O-move the ball-play off ball-cut etc.

it’s gonna be a crap show until Vivek allows someone to make the moves or leaves (ain’t happening)

Otis
February 22, 2021 6:44 am
Reply to  Amonk81

I think it’s silly to conflate Bagley and Walton. At least Bagley is improving, Walton’s still struggling with the mask thing.

Amonk81
February 22, 2021 11:28 am
Reply to  Otis

It’s not silly, you just don’t agree. And my point was both should be gone. Maybe owner/GM seeing if Walton is good enough to keep. They definitely are doing that w Bags. If so, stop. Move on. Neither will become a piece for winning.

Otis
February 22, 2021 12:07 pm
Reply to  Amonk81

I disagree because it’s silly.

RikSmits
February 22, 2021 1:25 pm
Reply to  Otis

I have seen very few NBA coaches consistently wear their mask properly.

Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 11:00 am
Reply to  Amonk81

Bagley is working hard and getting better and if you can’t acknowledge that it’s because you’re either not watching the games or you don’t understand what you’re watching. No doubt a work in progress with some warts but positive progress is occurring without doubt. His success is a big factor in determining the future success of the Kings and if you’re a Kings fan you should be rooting hard for him.

BestHyperboleEver
February 22, 2021 11:22 am
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

I agree with this:

Bagley is… getting better.

I don’t necessarily agree with this:

His success is a big factor in determining the future success of the Kings.

Obviously, if he explodes into a star player then he will. But personally, I don’t think that’s a potential outcome. The number of true difference makers who are neither playmakers nor exceptional defenders is basically non-existent. As I think Bagley’s ceiling is as more of a high-level role player, I don’t think he will be an especially big factor in the Kings success. At least, not one of the primary factors.

ForKingsandCountry
February 22, 2021 11:33 am

Perfectly said.

I think it’s easy to see that Bagley is getting better. It looks a lot better now than it did earlier in this season certainly. But anything he does is found money to me at this point. I don’t consider him part of the core moving forward at all. Which isn’t to say that he can’t become that in time but I think we’ve got along way to go before we can even start having that conversation.

Otis
February 22, 2021 12:06 pm

Totally agree.

TheEffortPolice
February 22, 2021 3:43 pm

It’s easy to see that he’s gotten better, going from borderline unplayable to serviceable. But at the end of the day I’m not sure it matters; that was never been what I’m looking for.

In fact, I’m not really looking for anything at all because I think it’s a lost cause. Even if he hits his ceiling I don’t think he works in today’s league.

It’s not a 1:1 comparison, but whenever they increase his role, they lose. Cut into his role, they win. Could this recent stretch be SSS and coincidence? Maybe, but it’s a trend throughout his career.

His ceiling is a high-end role player, but are there any high-end, high-usage offensive role-player bigs important in today’s league?

Having a bad or even mediocre defensive big is a killer, it’s like having a bad quarterback. If you’re losing with them already then they’re really capping your core’s ceiling.

Even a lot of cornerstone bigs cap your ceiling these days.

Atlanta made a bunch of acquisitions and is still going nowhere with John Collins.

The Warriors blew up from 6th seed to championship after cutting out David Lee.

The biggest reason the Raptors got over the hump was Kawhi. The second biggest reason was replacing JV with Gasol.

We build around Cousins. They were never passable defensively.

They put Cousins and AD together. It barely worked.

Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 4:24 pm

You think but it does remain to be seen. I feel a lot better about him now than 5 weeks ago. Keep in mind, he played one year at Duke where they played a lot of zone defense and his missed a fair amount of time in the NBA. If Bagley can become a legitimate staple in the starting lineup averaging 16-18 points a game with 8-10 rebounds and play adequate defense, that would be big for the Kings.

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 10:57 pm
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

Three years in and we’re still trying to figure out what we have.

At what point do you acknowledge how weak this take is?

This isn’t minor league baseball where you take a year and a half to learn how to hit a slider with a wood bat.

This is basketball. When you’re drafted second overall ahead of an All-NBA player in Doncic and another All-Star in Trae Young, you damn well better be ready to play – and play very, very well – from Day One.

To constantly shill for this guy when he doesn’t deserve it is as pathetic as he is.

How many excuses are we going to continue to make for him, and for how long?

Amonk81
February 22, 2021 11:37 am
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

I watch and I do understand what I’m watching. Watching a player who can’t defend well and doesn’t defensive board etc. He doesn’t really contribute to winning. Last night was a perfect example.

When it mattered Porto’s crushed Bags. I don’t believe he’s ever going to turn into a player who contributes to winning, especially when it matters.

No need to criticize me and say I don’t get it. This is my opinion and it’s just as valid as yours.

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 11:11 pm
Reply to  Amonk81

Don’t worry about it, he’s even worse on the other site.

Comes up with mind-numbingly dumb trades and rambling paragraphs full of cliches which somehow make him smarter than the rest of us.

Tops it off by being really condescending, so kind of a triple crown of awesomeness.

He’s the Marvin Bagley of Kings blog posters.

Amonk81
February 22, 2021 11:39 am
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

And I’m am a Kings fan so I’m rooting hard that McNair takes over, gets it, and brings in players who contribute to winning more than Bags. You can how you want to and I’ll do the same.

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 11:16 pm
Reply to  Amonk81

Bagley and Walton both need to go, then we will have officially moved on from the Vlade Era.

The core of this team is Fox and Haliburton.

Nothing more, nothing less.

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 10:50 pm
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

But is he … Luka Doncic good?

No.

Not sure I want to watch a team that depends on Bagley as its future.

MillersCornrows
February 21, 2021 11:35 pm
Reply to  jlandweh

Insert Walton into 2nd paragraph. It’s him.

MillersCornrows
February 21, 2021 11:39 pm

Buddy’s biggest problem is that he’s not as good as he thinks he is. He attempts shots like he’s Steph Curry, when he’s really just a good spot up shooter. He tries all kinds of fancy stuff and shoots it way too fast. You’re not Steph, despite what Vivek said, bro!

eddie41
February 22, 2021 8:33 am

Part of that I think is the way he’s utilized by Walton. He’s a streaky player who maybe needs those midrange buckets to heat up. He also had a good rapport with Cauley-Stein. And I speculate that he misses the energy of spectators in packed arenas to feed off of.

MillersCornrows
February 22, 2021 10:55 am
Reply to  eddie41

I hear you. I can’t stand Walton and I put a lot of it on him as well, but Buddy doesn’t have to take wild step-back threes like Harden and Step. But yeah, there’s likely little help from Walton like when we saw point guard Buddy last season.

Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 11:09 am
Reply to  eddie41

Oh come on. You can blame Walton for certain things but to blame him for Buddy’s problems is absurd. He simply has no understanding of team defense and off ball he’s completely lost. He’s always been a streaky shooter and you could live with that if he can just learn some basic fundamentals on defense. He’s defending his man in the corner and he allows him to penetrate to the middle from there, a cardinal sin. When he’s off ball he’s out of position with the back of his head to the ball. When he’s two and three passes away he’s hugging his player instead of being in good helping position. I could go on and on but to blame Walton is ridiculous.

eddie41
February 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

I never said he was a good defender

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 11:18 pm
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

Luke playing a shooting guard who clearly can’t play point guard at point guard probably didn’t help Buddy.

I mean, there is that.

LaBradfordsCreditCard
February 23, 2021 10:59 pm

He’s a super Steph, just young.

Well, not really Steph or young, I just wanted to quote Vlade.

Ralph_Furleys_Tailor
February 22, 2021 3:15 am

Couple of thoughts.

Buddy has taken the 4th most 3 pointers in the league…he is 118th in the league in 3 point field goal%. That is pathetic and back in the day his shot selection would have seen him benched long ago. At this point the team is easily better having Marvin shoot from deep than Buddy. Hot or cold he just keeps on throwing them up. Generously his shooting is net positive 1/5 games. I just don’t see how they get anything for him with that contract. Straight up, this team would be better off with Jabari on the floor! When you take terrible shots that result in a terrible % you are no longer a good shooter. Buddy the man I am sure is a good person. Buddy the player is dragging this team down almost single handed.

I think Fox is probably dinged up, but man has he ever looked bad in this recent stretch. Wouldn’t be shock if he got scratched at some point on this trip for maintenance.
His 6.3 free throw attempts per game are 13th in the league, so the disrespect is a little overstated by our announcers.

Fox is not an all star, but I sure hope he will be one day.

Luke Walton is a terrible coach coaching league average (mostly) players. I found myself actually feeling bad for him tonight. The cocktail of over indulgent, stagnant offense…apathetic defense and brutal roster construction has got to have him updating that resume.

kings4ever
February 22, 2021 6:22 am

TWolves coach fired! Who’s next 😛

Fancy that ladies and gents, a defensive player (Jefferies) who actually defends instead of a pseduo defender (Joseph) who in reality is one of the worst defenders on the team. There is an art and science to playing tough D without fouling. Barnes has it. Whiteside and Holmes have it to a degree. Fox sometimes has it, though not yesterday. Jefferies definitely has it.

Jefferies goes from afterthought to 39 minutes played. After his game v ORL six games ago, I said he should take all GR3 and CoJoSlo minutes, and more recently I said he should start over Buddy. I stand by those assertions more than ever. The revelation or rejuvenation of DaQuan, call it what you will, is good news to squeeze minutes from our two scrubiest of scrubs, Buddy and CoJo.

The way Jefferies plays, tough smart and unselfish, can be infectious. We need it!

There is minutes for Jefferies behind Barnes at the 3 and at the 2, and this squeezes the aforementioned scrubs off the floor if the coach has any wits left. I can see DaQuan as a 20-30 MPG player for us. His skillset is perfect to complement what we have and need.

To awaken from mental coma you sometimes need a clear and present contrast of what is and what could be, a proverbial 2×4 to the cranium. DaQuan provides that contrast to the coaches between a guy who truly gets after it on D vs two wannabe frauds who pretend to exert on that end w/o getting anything done.

Even though he had modest numbers (12 points 6 boards), I thought Marvin was impressive yesterday! Some of the tentativness and hesistancy is gone replaced with decisiveness and effeciency. We always needed to wait for Marvin to go through the league once as a starter and extract those lessons and experiences before knowing what we have, after he never started more than 3 games in a row before this season.

We are now 28 games in for Marvin as a starter, effective one pass through the league, so we should start seeing the dividends.

Marvin did not cower from Giannis on either end. There was a play in which he drew an offensive charge that I wish the coach would have challenged, showing support for his guy, keeping him on the floor and maybe getting Giannis into foul trouble. It would break convention to challenge in 1st quarter and this coach is not about that. This coach has NO sense of time and opportunity, no gut instinct. The challenge subsequently went to waste and Marvin was sidelined much of the 1st half while Giannis lived at the FT line. This is a coach w/o feel for the game.

As a part of his continued development Marvin needs to show a counter when the opponent takes away his primary move. And then counter to the counter, which is often a pass to the open man. The first counter is often a pivot and reverse. He did this once on a flip shot over Giannis.

It would be nice if Marvin had a left-to-right crossover dribble. Everyone knows Marvin wants to drive to his left. When this is denied, he needs to crossover his man and hard dribble once with the right hand. Instead he drives to his right with an exposed dribble. This is a barrier to stardom. But I think as Marvin gets more comfortable on the floor he will be able to expand his repertoire and this will be something to keep an eye for as an area for potential growth.

I thought Kyle Guy was mentally wrecked by the mindless machinations of Walton but he has more of an unbreakable spirit than I gave him for!

Guy is at Ground Zero of his NBA career, really given NO legitimate chance to earn a spot in the rotation over 30 games. Yet he still comes in and shows that spark and flare while the man ahead of him shows nothing but incompetence and lifelessness!

Where would the team be prospectively if Guy got chance to carve out his minutes and get those reps?!?! Hopefully the move made the Minnesota T’Wolves will inspire our GM!

King49er
February 22, 2021 11:21 am
Reply to  kings4ever

Agree with you about Buddy. He is NOT a starting player. He is MUCH better off the bench playing against the second string players. He isn’t forced to shoot as many bad shots coming off the bench.

BestHyperboleEver
February 22, 2021 11:27 am
Reply to  King49er

He’s among the huge swath of NBA players who are fringe starters/good role players. Players that CAN BE good starters in the right role with the right personnel around them, but your chances look A LOT better if you have the personnel to push them to the bench as high level backups. As they say in soccer, he’s not a “first player on the team sheet” type of guy.

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Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 4:40 pm

It’s not about whether he’s a starter or 6th man, everything with a salary cap is about value. We are not getting good value for that contract. You can find what he provides for much less strain on your cap.

Adamsite
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February 22, 2021 7:35 am

I originally believed the Kings would hold onto Walton until the end of the season to simply save on money or press exposure of a mid-season firing. I now think, with the Kings currently on pace to lose 10+ games in a row, that McNair is going to half to pull the trigger sooner than he or Vivek would like.

When teams begin to stink it up this badly there has to be a fall guy. McNair isn’t going to trade of a player or two to “change the culture” because this laying blame at the feet of the players and will not go over well. The only choice is Walton. If they go winless on the trip, including a loss to the horrible Pistons, Walton is as good as gone.

Marty
February 22, 2021 8:20 am
Reply to  Adamsite

At the start of the year a popular opinion was; fired mid-season, interim coach, trade players for picks, lose games.

The possibility exists Monte is on schedule.

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Adamsite
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February 22, 2021 9:01 am
Reply to  Marty

Let’s hope!

Klam
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February 22, 2021 10:21 am
Reply to  Adamsite

Yeah, I have a hard time seeing Walton surviving if the losing continues.

ForKingsandCountry
February 22, 2021 11:35 am
Reply to  Adamsite

I think he should be fired but I genuinely don’t believe he will be until the season is over. Maybe I’m off base but I just don’t think they want to pay him to do nothing for 2+ seasons.

Adamsite
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February 22, 2021 12:32 pm

They are going to be paying regardless if he’s on the sideline or not. It is more the optics of the front office doing something about a horrible losing streak. I fully expect some nonsense like a players only meeting coming first, but someone will have to be offered up as sacrifice and 9 times out of 10, it’s the head coach.

eddie41
February 22, 2021 8:38 am

Love the play of Haliburton! Every good game from him is good news because the team needs guys who maintain a high standard. I’m also pleased that DaQuan is contributing on offense because he really helps the team on defense.

King49er
February 22, 2021 11:00 am
Reply to  eddie41

It’s obvious to see that Haliburton is a baller. He does everything. He does things on the Kings that no other player does. He gets in between passing lanes. He runs the pick and roll like very well and has already improved a ton at it since the beginning of the year. Knowing the Kangz, he will probably not be resigned after his rookie contract ends because he’s a point guard and can’t have him and Fox on the same team fighting for time! Sorry, still have Isaiah Thomas ptsd.

Otis
February 22, 2021 12:09 pm
Reply to  King49er

I will say, there were numerous playsets in the second half yesterday where both were on the floor and Haliburton didn’t touch the ball – he was parked in the weak side corner waiting for the ball rotation/skip pass that never came.

That’s bound to happen at times, but he’s such a smart player it feels like a lost opportunity when he doesn’t touch the ball.

King49er
February 22, 2021 10:50 am

I think it is time. Yes, already.
It’s time to let Haliburton take over as the focus of this team. Fox is great but he’s no superstar. I see that potential in Haliburton. He has come in as a rookie and shows he has the “it” factor. He needs to be molded to be the future of the Kings.

Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 11:16 am
Reply to  King49er

Not to be the focus of the team but to start and play 35 minutes a game. One concern right now is whether or not his body can hold up over a long NBA season playing 35 minutes a game. I think Fox is a little banged up right now.

BestHyperboleEver
February 22, 2021 11:29 am
Reply to  Want-to-be-gm

It’s the NBA. Being “a little banged up” is pretty much a constant state for the entire league.

ForKingsandCountry
February 22, 2021 11:39 am

Yeah if he can’t hold for up for more than 2 weeks at a time while handling heavy usage then we’ve got a problem. It’s why Fox is just a good player right now and not a great player. If you can’t bring it consistently over 82 games (or 72) then you aren’t in the upper echelon. It’s as simple as that.

Want-to-be-gm
February 22, 2021 4:46 pm

There is a lot of guys around the league taking a lot of nights off. Maybe Fox is playing while those other guys are sitting,

Otis
February 22, 2021 12:02 pm
Reply to  King49er

Not sure why you need to “focus” on one or the other. Haliburton, Fox and whomever is our upcoming first round draft pick should be the focus of the rebuilding process.

King49er
February 22, 2021 11:10 am

Did anyone watch the postgame on TV? All they did was RAVE about Bagley’s night (an amazing 12 points and 6 boards, much better than Holmes’ 11 pts and 11 boards I guess) but NO mention of Haliburton getting 23 points, 8 assists, and 2 steals and basically helping to keep the team within shouting distance (with a megaphone) in the 4th with Guy. Amazing.

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Gregoryl
February 22, 2021 11:28 am
Reply to  King49er

They told the TV crew that Vlade was fired, right??

Marty