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California Classic Open Thread

Summer League kicks off with the California Classic.
By | 118 Comments | Jul 2, 2022

Aug 17, 2021; Las Vegas, Nevada, USA; The Sacramento Kings celebrate with the Summer League Championship trophy after defeating the Boston Celtics 100-67 in the NBA Summer League final at Thomas & Mack Center. Mandatory Credit: Stephen R. Sylvanie-USA TODAY Sports

The Sacramento Kings kick off Summer League title defense today with their participation in the 2022 California Classic. The Classic has moved from Sacramento to San Francisco this year and will be played at the Chase Center.

The action starts with Lakers vs Heat at 2 PM PT, followed by the Kings against the Warriors at 4:30 PM PT. The Kings game will be shown on NBATV. This will be our first glimpse of Keegan Murray as a Sacramento King, as well as new Two-Way player Keon Ellis.

This thread can be used for any discussion around both games.

Go Kings!

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Gojira2021
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July 2, 2022 2:11 pm

Back-to-back here we come!!!!!

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July 2, 2022 2:56 pm

It’s championship season!

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July 2, 2022 3:09 pm

The only team in the world that builds their entire organization around winning this.

GO KANGZ!!!!!!

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July 2, 2022 3:42 pm

pretty sure it’s Bagley’s current team that should be favorites to win this thing

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July 2, 2022 4:14 pm
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This is so true.

Will they play him?

Probably has a sore thumb?

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July 2, 2022 3:31 pm

Jovic has been mostly invisible in the LAL vs MIA game.

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July 2, 2022 3:40 pm
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Yeah, he has not impressed against supposed inferior talent. Let’s hope for a different look from Keegan.

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July 2, 2022 3:34 pm

We’re gonna hang another sticker in the rafters!!!!!!!!!111

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July 2, 2022 3:39 pm

I’m excited to see Rhoden (32), Ellis (34), & Murray (13) of course. Also want to see if Coleman (23) has improved as he is a possible emergency call-up at PG should one of Fox and/or Mitchell get hurt.

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July 2, 2022 3:42 pm
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Kings still desperately need a 3rd string PG. I’ve always though Mac McClung would be nice for that role, and he has looked good today.

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July 2, 2022 3:51 pm

OT: This means the Kings still have some change in their MLE left over from Monk and also have their full bi-annual exception of around $4M.

IMO, Kings need another SF wing and a 3rd string PG.

https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/status/1543366332124499968

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July 2, 2022 4:20 pm

Anybody have a link to a livestream?

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July 2, 2022 4:36 pm
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as far as I know, its only on NBA TV

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July 2, 2022 4:37 pm
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Yes please!

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July 2, 2022 5:03 pm
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Just search for kings vs warriors reddit

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July 2, 2022 5:04 pm
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If you have amazon prime video you can do a free trial for the NBA TV channel on there (and then it’s like $6.99 a month after trial)

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July 2, 2022 5:33 pm
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I’m gonna forget to cancel it, I’d rather risk getting a virus on my phone

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July 2, 2022 5:38 pm
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True!

I think that’s probably what they count on for some of their sales.

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July 2, 2022 4:37 pm

Quick corner 3 for King Keegan!!!

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July 2, 2022 4:37 pm

He’s an all-star!

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July 2, 2022 4:37 pm

That first Murray corner three is already getting me irrationally excited. Summer League Champs here we come.

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July 2, 2022 4:50 pm

Somebody tell Keegan that he’s the No. 4 pick in the draft. Demand the ball. Don’t just sit in the corner.

He’s been pretty passive so far.

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July 2, 2022 4:57 pm
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Finished the quarter with only 7 pts and 5 brds—despite being “passive”.

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July 2, 2022 5:09 pm
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I feel like this will be his game, getting nice stat lines and playing good ball but people will watch thinking he isn’t doing much because of a lack of flashy plays

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July 2, 2022 5:17 pm
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True but knowledgeable BBall people will know .

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July 2, 2022 5:53 pm
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So does that rule you out?

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July 2, 2022 6:26 pm
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No, just you.

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July 2, 2022 5:29 pm
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Yeah Murray is not flashy but gets thr job done. Type of player where after the game when you look at the box score he would have a stats around 18pts, 8reb and 4 assist, 1stl and 1 block

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July 2, 2022 6:40 pm
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26/8 being passive

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July 2, 2022 4:51 pm

Yikes…

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July 2, 2022 4:53 pm

Do the Kings know that Keegan is on the floor?

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July 2, 2022 4:56 pm

Nice quick turnaround and cut by Keegan.

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July 2, 2022 4:56 pm

Murray with 7 points and 5 boards first quarter.

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July 2, 2022 4:59 pm

stupid question but is there a box score available

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July 2, 2022 5:05 pm
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July 2, 2022 5:06 pm
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Thanks

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July 2, 2022 5:11 pm

Early take: Keegan is fundamentally sound and moves his feet well on defense, but he’s far from electric

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July 2, 2022 5:13 pm
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He’s got that LeMarcus Aldridge vibe to his game.

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July 2, 2022 5:18 pm
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LMA? I will take that all day.

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July 2, 2022 5:26 pm
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A little bit of Siakam on his face up going to the basket move. Nice 1st half by Murray.. Also, Keon Ellis defense is as advertised.. Really good get by Mcnair

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July 2, 2022 5:26 pm
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Damn, if only he was more athletic/explosive, hopefully his three is money in the nba

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July 2, 2022 5:14 pm
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Bum is going to be 15/7/3 with solid defense but “Ivey” guys like you won’t like him because he isn’t dunking all the time…

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July 2, 2022 6:03 pm
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It’s not an insult to say he isn’t electric. Neither is Sabonis. Calm down, dude.

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July 2, 2022 5:11 pm

Queta looks good.

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July 2, 2022 5:14 pm
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His couple finishes were beautiful. Irrationally love him lol

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July 2, 2022 5:14 pm
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Very aggressive so far. He is a BIG man

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July 2, 2022 5:19 pm
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Looks stronger than last year to me, is that my weak eyes?

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July 2, 2022 5:21 pm
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I was thinking this broadcast was very blurry and then realized it was my glasses

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July 2, 2022 5:23 pm
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ha, he looks chisled this year. Could be me.

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July 2, 2022 5:19 pm
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He’s a man among the boys there mate

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July 2, 2022 5:20 pm

He is

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July 2, 2022 5:19 pm
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Huge and has actual talent .

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July 2, 2022 5:19 pm

Ellis is bringing the defense!

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July 2, 2022 5:23 pm
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Reminds me a little like Patrick Beverly

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July 2, 2022 5:29 pm
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Ellis Island!

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July 2, 2022 5:32 pm
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that’s really good

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July 2, 2022 5:35 pm
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Off Night on Ellis Island.

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July 2, 2022 5:53 pm
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This will be the single best thing about summer league.

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July 2, 2022 7:05 pm
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I’m a fan, his on-ball defense is very good

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July 2, 2022 5:22 pm

Nice start for Keegan. The reputation of getting his numbers by attrition is on full display. Death by a thousand cuts. Smart ancillary reads, active, attentive etc.

Hopefully if this game goes well he feels a little more assured flirting with usage and work off the dribble considering the level. But good half for him!

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July 2, 2022 5:25 pm

13 and 7, no TOs or fouls, 5-8 from the field, 1-2 from three, and 2-2 from the line.

Couldn’t ask for a better start.

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July 2, 2022 5:28 pm

He’s looking solid. 🙂

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July 2, 2022 6:27 pm
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The Brazilian Blur is the house!

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July 2, 2022 5:28 pm

Queta is definitely moving his feet much better this year.

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July 2, 2022 5:38 pm

Murray with a very smooth 3

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July 2, 2022 5:38 pm
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….and another one. Beautiful.

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July 2, 2022 5:40 pm
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Lighting it up without being electric!

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July 2, 2022 5:41 pm
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If he were more athletic, he would have dunked those threes, amirite?

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July 2, 2022 5:40 pm
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And what should have been a gorgeous assist but whoever that was he passed to turned down an open dunk.

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July 2, 2022 6:24 pm

Ben Simmons is playing?!

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July 2, 2022 5:48 pm

There’s your dunk

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July 2, 2022 5:50 pm

So far, he’s better than TRob.

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July 2, 2022 5:52 pm
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Which is saying something………not sure what but something

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July 2, 2022 5:55 pm
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T-Rob had to play a little PG in summer league – Jimmer kept getting pilfered.

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July 2, 2022 5:57 pm
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Which continued into the regular season. He got mugged often

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July 2, 2022 6:03 pm
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That’s right, I forgot!!! Man what a car wreck in slow motion!

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July 2, 2022 6:11 pm
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If I recall, they threw a full court on The Jimmer and he just wilted. It was sad on parade.

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July 2, 2022 6:12 pm

Yep. Charlotte eviscerated him. I was at the game with betweentheeyes, and we both said “ruh-roh.”

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July 2, 2022 6:49 pm
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I’m sure my recollection has been dulled by time but I still remember Jimmer bringing the ball up and just before he got the ball to the center line 2 players
stopped in front of him and said give us the ball and he just handed it over……..well….that’s the way it seemed to me at the time

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July 2, 2022 5:52 pm

Keegan never looked one ounce nervous.

Just one of those guys who just produces

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July 2, 2022 5:55 pm
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Yup. He’s ready to step in as a starter from day one.

My way too early conclusion from one summer league game. Keegan is 4 and not a 3. He starts there and Barnes slides to the 3.

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July 2, 2022 6:02 pm
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Who do you have at the 2? Monk or KH?

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July 2, 2022 6:04 pm
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As of today, Huerter. He’s more proven and Monk has that microwave potential off the bench. Huerter also gives the team some excellent length, plus he’s a better defender.

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July 3, 2022 5:09 am
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I like your point but I’m thinking that Monk might be the best option to be in the starting lineup. Huerter makes a lot of sense as the 6 man because he slides into the SG and SF spots. Would seem to be a pretty sweet option as a head coach. If Barnes starts at the 3 and Monk starts at the 2 then Huerter can fit into either position depending matchups or foul trouble from either of this starters.

Feels pretty cool to have a head coach that knows what he’s doing. Monk or Huerter as the sixth man is a luxury. For that matter, Davion is a pretty awesome option as well. Liking this roster a lot. Worried about losing Barnes for nothing but the idea of Barnes being the 5th option in our starting lineup is pretty cool.

scoring options in starting lineup

1.) Fox
2.) Ox
3.) Monk/Huerter
4.) Murray
5.) Barnes

😎

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July 2, 2022 6:10 pm
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I’m guessing that we will see a lot of Fox, Davi, Huerter & Monk in various 3-man presentations. I think Huerter’s going to get a lot of time at “SF” when the matchups present themselves. And Barnes & Murray together when the wings are bigger, and maybe even some Sabs/Holmes against big front lines.

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July 2, 2022 6:14 pm
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Yeah, I think we’ll see lots of different combinations, which is a good thing! Huerter will definitely get minutes at the 3. I’m just not sure I see Keegan as 3. That means, I don’t see. Sabonis, Metu/Lyles and Murray front-line much. He’s a stretch 4 and a small ball 5 before he’s a 3.

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July 2, 2022 6:17 pm
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My way too early conclusion from one summer league game.

Yeeeaaahhhh!!!

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July 2, 2022 6:18 pm
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For real! I was just about to bring up Donte and the fact the summer league doesn’t mean much!

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July 2, 2022 6:22 pm
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MacCallum’s MVP jersey must be hidden behind a pillar in the rafters.

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July 2, 2022 6:26 pm
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never forget!

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July 2, 2022 5:55 pm

26 points in 24 minutes for Murray with another quarter to go.

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July 2, 2022 5:58 pm
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LoW cEiLiNg

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July 2, 2022 5:58 pm

Sestina has no chance at making the squad but he’s got that end-of-bench fan favorite vibe

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July 2, 2022 6:00 pm
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He’s reminding my of the Brockness Monster.

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July 2, 2022 6:02 pm

I love seeing the Kings ball movement and playmaking under Jordi here. 20 assists 10 turnovers, to the Warriors 7 and 14. Hoping that is something we see with the main squad- good teamwork with Fox bailouts if we absolutely need.

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July 2, 2022 6:08 pm
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Was thinking that too. The schemes offensively are favoring some nice ball movement.

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July 2, 2022 6:11 pm

Huerter fits well in that regard, with Fox, Sabonis, Barnes and Murray.

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July 2, 2022 6:02 pm

O’Connell has some scrappiness to him. Would love to see him get a camp invite.

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July 2, 2022 6:17 pm
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Agreed, I’ve liked his athleticism as well.

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July 2, 2022 6:04 pm

I know summer league is a giant caveat in and of itself, but as far as Murray is concerned, I’m glad to be looking at from the “damn, this kid looks good!” vantage point than the “does it mean anything that this guy looked shitty in summer league?” vantage point (coughBagleycough).

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Absolutely. Much better than trying to justify a poor showing by saying “it’s only summer league”

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July 2, 2022 6:05 pm

I’m enjoying the announcing team. Having fun with the antics

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July 2, 2022 6:34 pm
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Sadly, they are much better than Kyle and Kayte .

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July 2, 2022 6:48 pm
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I’ve always liked Tom Tolbert.

If I remember correctly, he was calling Game 6 and wondering out loud how Pollard and the Kings were getting called for those phantom fouls.

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July 2, 2022 6:09 pm

Murray getting frozen out by his teammates for being too mouthy

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July 2, 2022 6:10 pm
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Yeah, they sure aren’t looking for him.

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July 2, 2022 6:10 pm

Im not sure Queta experience is always good, but boy is it funnn!

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July 2, 2022 6:11 pm

Patrick Baldwin is ug

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July 2, 2022 6:21 pm

26 and 8 and No turnovers! I guess he’s not the next Boogie….

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July 2, 2022 6:23 pm

Not a lot of NBA talent in the opposition (especially without Moody or Kuminga), but all that aside Keegan did his thing impressively. Removed of all the draft talk, and longterm questions, just a really fun and cerebral player (definitely akin with my own aesthetics). Excited to watch him and this squad here and in Vegas.

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July 2, 2022 6:27 pm

The one word I have for Murray is effortless. This guy is a smooth operator.

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July 2, 2022 6:30 pm
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There is another guy he reminds me of…a potentially better shooting Rudy Gay.

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July 2, 2022 6:36 pm
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Great comp and keeps playing even with guards that can’t see him .

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July 2, 2022 6:39 pm
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Yeah….seemed like they had their Keegan Murray blinders on almost every time he was open right from the beginning

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July 2, 2022 6:37 pm
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Smooth as silk

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July 2, 2022 9:12 pm
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Jamaal Wilkes was Silk. Maybe Keegan can be The Satin Assassin

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July 2, 2022 6:39 pm

Shout out to all the fans that were in the building! Keegan looked good and it looked easy

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