The Kings started their noon game in a somewhat sleepy back and forth with the Clippers, with no team really having the motivation to break out early. The second quarter saw LA draw a little separation and the ensuing constant blaring of the refs whistles on the Kings helped them keep that lead. The waning moments of the half saw the Kings pull ahead to finish with a 54-51 lead. The second half saw the Kings open up their own small cushion only to see the Clippers pull ahead in the waning seconds of the quarter. The entire fourth was back and forth with the Kings always managing to hold a point or two over the Clippers’ heads. Fox was his clutch superstar self and Sacramento managed to hang on against the Clippers, winning 113-110.
De’Aaron Fox started off scoring eight quick points in the first quarter to get the Kings out and running early. He was an embarrassment of riches in the first half, getting anywhere he wanted in the paint. He scored 14 points in the first half, but wasn’t done there. The leading man for the Kings was the best player on the floor today for either team and ended up with a scorching 36 points to go with 7 assists and 4 rebounds. The fourth quarter saw Fox hitting threes, defending his man at a high level and generally being a menace. With 40 seconds or so left and a one point lead, Fox maneuvered around Kawhi like he was a fence post and found Richaun Holmes for an open dunk. This proved to be the nail in the coffin for the Clippers who had to play the foul game from there.
De'Aaron Fox vs. Kawhi Leonard in crunch time. pic.twitter.com/MDliWrz0O1
— Tony ????ypteras (@TonyXypteras) February 7, 2021
Rookie Tyrese Haliburton is a savant. I know there’s always hype around young guys outperforming their draft positions but Haliburton is making a lot of league execs look silly right now. Multiple times this afternoon he caught Kawhi Leonard looking the wrong way on his passes. While he had a fairly quiet first three quarters, Captain Clutch came into the fourth and immediately hit back to back threes to the give the Kings a 5 point lead, then a couple minutes later hit a beautiful runner to boot. The fourth quarter started with Kyle Guy, Hali running the guard spots and they actually ended up pushing the lead with Fox on the bench. Hali is unreal. going for 13 points, with 2 rebounds and 6 assists to add to it. Final note on him, He also casually hit a banker from well beyond half court and it was only a few tenths of a second too late to count. I’m starting to think a quarter can’t legally end until Haliburton hits a shot.
Buddy Hield is finding ways to do things even when his shooting isn’t there and that is a change that is pretty damn welcome. While he shot 1-6 from deep in the first half, he was mixing it up on the defensive end, grabbing offensive rebounds deep in the paint against the Clippers bigs. He grabbed 7 rebounds in the first half and tossed out 2 assists. This isn’t to say the man didn’t end up getting it done: Buddy ended up with 22 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists and hitting three shots from deep.
Marvin Bagley just missed out on a double double, adding 9 points and 10 rebounds but generally had another whisper quiet game in 21 minutes of action. Seven of those rebounds came in the first quarter and he did toss in another corner three that he likes so much, but his streak of meh play continues.
Random Notes on the Night
The Kings first 22 points of the game all came in the paint. I know some of that has to do with Ibaka being old and the Clippers being in the bottom 8 in blocks, but the Kings were just simply making contested shots. They didn’t hit a shot from outside the key in the entire first quarter and wouldn’t until 10:40 into the second quarter.
March 9th, 2019 was the last time the Kings were above .500 with this many games played. If you heard that snapping sound outside, that was my jaw shattering from the reflexive clenching that just occured.
Kyle Guy got 1st quarter minutes and hit a three early into the second quarter. He was also a part of a really decent stretch in the fourth that allowed Fox to rest on the bench for just awhile longer. Who says Walton isn’t flexible? (Everyone.)
The Kings could not buy a bucket from deep, starting the game 2-12 from beyond the arc. To that point, Buddy had missed 17 straight threes dating back to yesterday’s game until the closing minute of the second quarter.
Tyrese is second in the NBA in 4th quarter 3 point %, behind only Joe Harris. The kid is shooting 62.9% (!!) from deep in the fourth. Hot damn.
This win marked the first time the Kings have won the second game of a back to back this season.
Smashed the Clippers today!
Passed right over LA without evening batting an eyelash!
Boom. Clipped. Next.
Mikki Moore!!!
lol what is this
Lol I have no idea. Let’s celebrate!
The Kings are getting perilously close to making a lot of people’s takes look really bad in hindsight. They’re not there yet, but I feel like we’re at the precipice.
…Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see…
I’m more concerned they are making their coach look good
True…one thing that probably can be identified as a bad take right now is the McNair was a fool not to resign Bogi for 72 million camp. He would be getting minimal minutes on this team or forcing Hali into a reduced role. If his minutes were reduced and his numbers look anything like they do now for the Hawks (injury aside) that contract is ROUGH to move.
Obviously I expect the Kings to come back to Earth some, but this does feel different than previous hot streaks because the Kings finally have a guy that can create and control the final 2 minutes of a game. Last two minutes get slow and deliberate and the Kings have not had a guy that could iso and get crunch time buckets (or fouls) consistently. Fox is doing that and then some recently. Cousins could never do that with success…even the glory teams had trouble at end of games sometimes. Bibby could hit clutch shots, but not your classic iso and get buckets at end of game guy. Almost every good to great team has that.
IF (Big IF, would like to see another 15-20 games of close to or this level) this is who Fox is…it makes all the other hot streak comparisons of the last 15 years moot. Different dynamic.
It is a good point that Cousins never had a 4th quarter stretch like Fox has over the last 5 games, not even close. Always begging for calls, always forcing the issue, that was Cousins. The magnificence of Fox is they he can be in attack mode without begging for the foul, needing to get bailed out. (This is what Luka does by the way).
Fox confidence is buoyed by Haliburton. He has a “release valve” for getting the team into offense initiating sets, Haliburton allows Fox to play to the best of his ability.
I like your take except for the fact that the Kings had three, maybe four, guys that could get clutch shots at the end of games. Bibby was the most “clutch” but Webber, Vlade, and Peja were all solid at the end of games. Bobby Jackson was another X factor in those days too. Doug Chirstie…well…he was good on D.
Ehhh…could they hit clutch shots? Sure. but could they individually create late in shot clock or end game situations off the dribble? Not as well
The Kings areThe Fox getting perilously close to making a lot of people’s takes look really bad in hindsight. They’re not there yet, but I feel like we’re at the precipice.Imagine if we gave Bogi what he wanted. What a blunder that would have been.
sometimes I imagine what if we got Divincenzo and also kept Tillman in the draft…
The pain is real. When I judge McNair, those are the two knocks against him. He didn’t need to come to an agreement in principle with the Bucks 3 days before the start of free agency. There was literally no time constraint on that deal outside of the start of free agency. Tillman is still a TBD, but it looks like the Grizzlies got a steal.
This.
Everyone in the Pacific Division above .500….yikes. Feels good to be good though.
Fox is on another level! Loving how he’s taking over the games.
Also loved seeing Guy maximize his minutes. He worked well with The Steal.
Time to sit/trade CoJo.
I’m really happy seeing Fox take it to the next level. I’m feeling great for his and Ty’s future together.
Fox had Kawhi mesmerized in the 4th quarter!
When Fox tore past Kawhi, leaving him flat-footed, it’s hard to not recognize his abilities.
Ja Morant is who Amin Elhassan thinks Fox is.
Amin’s take at the time was legit.
at the time
To be clear Morant and Fox are both stars, and no one knows which one will ultimately have a more impactful career. Amin just likes to pretend he’s smarter than everyone else.
(Related note: if you have a podcast don’t spend all your time talking about how dumb fans are based on your Twitter mentions. Nothing makes me shut off a pod faster than a person pretending Twitter replies are indicative of conventional fan wisdom)
“Boy, Kings fans sure are–”
“–WE ARE NOT A MONOLITH!”
lol
Yeah, I think Amin’s comment was just uncalled for and unrelated to the topic. He just took a cheap shot at a player to sound edgy and be cool, which is his entire persona. Although, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a puerile troll off camera too
I understand Amin’s point (even though I didn’t agree with it). He basically was saying that it was a joke and that Morant is younger and on a better team. Last offseason, that was true.
However; the way Amin reacted was awful and I completely lost respect for him.
I actually had more issue with Amick on the Habershow. Amin called Sacramento a cowtown, boring, and was talking a lot of garbage. Amick just blamed it on little brother syndrome/frustrated at losing. He had every chance to stand up for the city of Sacramento immediately, especially living here.
As fans, we can respect someone if they talk poorly on a player’s game (even De’Aaron)…but don’t talk poorly about us fans or our city. As a member of the national media dependent on fans-this is not professional.
Also, when are we getting DaQuan Jeffries back? Would love to see what he would do with this 2nd unit.
The Steal!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the magnificence of this nickname? This is the first I’ve seen it used anywhere.
A player of Tyrese’s caliber clearly deserves a nickname of commensurate excellence and evidently someone has come up with it.
I don’t know if you coined this or not Buffer, but if so, you deserve a special TKH merit badge all your own IMO. If not, I think it’s great that you’re trying to perpetuate it.
Have always loved NBA nicknames, from the amusing (The Microwave, The Round Mound of Rebound, White Chocolate, The Stifle Tower/French Rejection) to the profound/dramatic (The Answer, Magic, The Truth, The Dream) to the nicknames that just perfectly capture some unique characteristic or reputational trait of the player to whom they’re attributed (The Admiral, The Glove, The Iceman, The Mailman).
“The Steal” has a little of all of that. From the havoc he causes in passing lanes to how far he fell in the draft, it’s really just about as good a nickname as I think anyone’s going to ever suggest. (So let’s roll with it, shall we!? How do we make this a thing?)
So long as I’m ranting about Tyrese’s nickname… the alternatives are all pretty meh, let’s be honest.
“Hali” is not so much a nickname as an abbreviation, like calling Bogdanovic “Bogie” or Papagiannis “Papa”. Or even if it is a nickname, it’s boring and uninspired. Same with “Rese”.
BTW I’m convinced that every time Doug says something like “Hali.. very, very nice”, he is convinced that his audience finds the rhyme with “Halle Berry” to be clever. (for the record, we don’t.)
“Burt” is just silly, has nothing to do with anything, and makes me think of Sesame Street.
“Ty Ballgame” doesn’t at all capture Haliburton’s winning nature; not to mention play-by-play commentators using it with any regularity could potentially lead to mass confusion.
What others have been suggested? Rese Lightning? The Something Cyclone?
C’mon TKH folks.. he’s obviously going to be an historic player and the nickname that will catch on when he becomes a household name will likely have started right here.
It’s on US to get this right!
#TheSteal
#ReseROY
#FTM
…and The Rock!
“We will Stop the Steal!”
-The NBA and other delusional people
Marvin Bagley is not long for this team and is ironically the odd man out fit wise.
When Walton put Metu in the game I think that sealed it. And honestly the only reason I think he’s still starting at all is because there might be some leftover residue of trying to justify the #2 pick.
It’s not just his defense, in 4th quarters he can’t be trusted not to make mindless iso plays that might as well be fast-break turnovers for the other team.
BREAKING! Kings look great, win six of seven while Marvin Bagley’s minutes and role diminishes.
Marvin lives rent free in your head lol what did he ever do to you?
Um, sucked from the day he got here while the guy we should have drafted became an All-NBA First Team selection in two years at the ripe old age of 21?
No shit. But he comes on here after every game, win or lose, talking about Marvin. I just wanna know if MB3 is paying rent or?
I saw a comment today that the Kings started 2-9 because they allowed Bagley to do the high-usage things that he thinks God blessed him to do…
Blessed him to do personally…
Like Bagley thinks God descended from the heavens in a chariot of light with a cadre of angels and spoketh to him of his gifts.
But now they’ve decreased his usage heavily and it seems like they’ve actively avoiding dumping the ball to him whenever they get the chance.
I wonder if Charlotte would do a Bagley-Bridges swap straight up? I think that would fit (ironic, isn’t it?) the roster better than what is. Or hell, Bjelica is still rotting on the bench here if you need 20 minutes of traditional 4 to start the game.
Bjelica is in no way, shape, or form, a traditional 4. Kings started slow because they couldn’t defend a cone and Fox wasn’t playing like he is now. Marvin’s lack of usage has been a nice development as the season has gone on, but it’s kind of chicken shit to say that’s the whole reason they’re playing better.
Miles Bridges for Marvin Bagley? Hmm, I dont hate it.
I’d take Todd Bridges for Pervis Bagley, straight up.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-team-episode-4-pictured-todd-bridges-as-willis-jackson-photo-by-picture-id141131647?s=612×612
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Yes, He, CoJo, and Whiteside are the odd fits on this roster.
Well you are 1 out of 2, and his name is CoJoSlo!
The Kings are 10-5 in games Whiteside plays. Technically they are 10-6 but the one loss was a game Whiteside played 3 minutes in garbage time so I think it is fair to exclude him from this game when he did not have a decent chance to exert an effect.
If you think Whiteside is an “odd fit” on this roster, you frankly need to watch basketball for another decade or two then get back to me with all due respect.
There is always place on a team for a GIANT player who sets picks gets rebounds alive, swats weak shit, deters opponents from driving to the cup, and have a nice touch and a tocuh of nasty about him.
It is also clear teammates are buoyed by his presence on the floor, how do fans not see this!?!? If he imperfect, yes. If he relatively slow, yes. But he has a nice touch and nice feel for the game and only immature observers of the NBA do not see this.
Do you know when Whiteside is less effective? It is when a SCRUB like CoJoSlo tries to overinvolve him and defer to him too much because he is so limited as a player.
Whiteside is not Patrick Ewing in his prime but Joseph will sometimes defer to him as if he were because of him own limitations as an offense player. What I am saying is self-evident to any long-time NBA observer.
All the critics came out the woodwork when Whiteside had two bad games on the road trip, now they are silent. Cmon guys, give credit where credit is due.
“Do you know when Whiteside is less effective? It is when a SCRUB like CoJoSlo tries to overinvolve him and defer to him too much because he is so limited as a player.”
So you made my point for me. He also has no long term future here clearly. He checks out mentally a lot or gets complacent, as evidenced by his lazy passes for turnovers lately. On a team built around guards that run fast and play with high energy, that GIANT player who sets picks should resemble someone like Stephen Adams, who looked damn good playing with Westbrook. Bonus points if they can shoot. This is the only negative comment I ever made about Whiteside and I thought I was just stating the obvious. No need for animosity over an obvious placeholder on our roster.
I don’t understand your point. Whiteside is good. He is slow and deliberate but he’s good. CoJo is a TRASH player. Do you disagree? Whiteside can play. CoJo cannot play. Every offensive set that involves CoJo is a tedious mess. He doesn’t belong on the floor. Whiteside has a nasty streak, I love it, he can catch on finish, and rejects weak shit. He sucks in rebounds in his vicinity. CoJo pounds the ball and hopes not to embarass himself. How can you refute any of this, I don’t think you can.
Kyle Guy was not even that good today, and still showed he should be in the game over CoJoSlo.
I agree with you on CoJo. And I do understand Whiteside’s role. I believe every team needs a Whiteside at a minimum. I just think he’s an odd fit for this roster. I don’t think he needs to be traded, but I think we do need to upgrade from him in the offseason. A Richaun Holmes with Whiteside’s size would be a godsend for this roster.
How is he an “odd fit’ when he provides us with defense when our defense sucks? Did you see Bagley, aka Badly, try to play defensive center for us? He couldnt do it.
And the numbers speak for themselves. 10-5 with games Whiteside played, except for the 3 minutes in garbage time.
Okay lets do the math, thats a 2 out 3 or .666 winning percentage in games with Whiteside. What is your problem again, please enlighten me!
10-5 with Whiteside
2-6 without Whiteside
We have problem with CoJoSlo, Badly and Yield not Whiteside!
Again Whiteside is not perfect but he can play with positive effect.
Whiteside is beast moding to the best of his ability, join the club of believers, we welcome you!
#WhitesideBelievers 🙂
Whiteside is good? There’s a reason he led the league in blocks and signed for the minimum
I’ll give credit to Whiteside for looking OK yesterday. Today he looked garbage again. He’s a mixed bag. For every one decent game there’s 3 bad games. Even with that I I don’t mind his role, he’s an upgrade over Len, but he should have a shorter leash imo
But the team is 10-5 games Whiteside played less the game in which he got 3 minutes gargage time when the outcome was decided.
So how does that fit with your 3 bad game out of 4 game assesment? We have won 2 out of 3 or .666 games Whiteside has played while you contend he has lost us in 75% games he played? Do you like to ignore facts stats and numbers?
I dont like to ignore reality, I like to confront it, maybe you feel otherwise!
Whiteside is not the problem. CoJoSlo is the Problem. Badly aka Bagley is the Problem. Buddy Yield is the Problem. Whiteside is inserted into the game to remedy the aforementioned problems. Go ahead and try to refute me then we will simultaneously watch the games as you are disproven.
Here is the thing.
I want to be disproven wrong. I don’t mind. If I can learn something, great! Because I am interested in truth, that is all. I am interested in truth, and what I am telling you is my perception of the most likely truth. Lets see how it plays out. If I am wrong I am first to admit but I doubt it because I am right almost always …
Being right is my focus, not for ego, but bc what is alternate preference?!
Lol wtf
(To add..good lord I’ve never rolled my eyes harder than when I read your conceded posts)
Buddy Yield? HAHAHHAHA! That is almost as good as Folly, need to start using that.
first of all, your nicknames are worse than Trump’s. Please stop.
Second of all, Whiteside is not good. He has been effective for Sacramento because he is a very large human and the Kings have been using him well. They keep him parked in the paint, but he still does the Whiteside thing of not contesting shooters in the pick and roll and trying to chase blocks. They’ve managed to minimize his flaws.
It is possible for him to be a mediocre player yet still be somewhat effective, but don’t count on it lasting. Miami and Portland both got tired of him for many reasons.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call CoJo a “scrub”, but our household nickname for him is “Corey Dribble”, so I guess I’m a hypocrite.
Check that kings record when Whiteside gets significant minutes vs when he doesn’t
When Whiteside plays more than 12 minutes, the Kings are 9-2.
When Whiteside DNPs or plays less than 12 minutes, the Kings are 3-9.
I’ve said it many times. Whiteside has limitations. He is not good offensively. It is often ugly. He is slow.
However, he is an above average defensive center. He rebounds well. He blocks and changes shots. He scores efficiently (even if it is ugly). He can help if Holmes is struggling with a big center.
He provides the Kings what they need, someone to help keep the game close while the starters get rest.
With all the losing I have watched over the years, if Whiteside playing 15-20 minutes a game means wins I will take it.
I think you are reading too much into this. A decision was made 2-3 weeks ago not to play Bagley at center. Narrowing his responsibility is just a strategy to get him to try to facilitate his development by not asking him to play two positions.
Bagley is having a disappointing year but today actually was a bit of a bounceback after his horrid game against the Nuggets.
The only thing I can say optimistically, which I said before, is Bagley might have thought he was on the fast track to stardom with a healthy stretch. Well, that did not materialize. So he got a dose of reality, the unforgiveness and harsheness of the league. And he has watched a rookie blossom into a star while he flounders.
Haliburton is everything Bagley was advertised to be in terms of an impact player but wasn’t.
So this adveristy can maybe wake him up to the effort and commitment it takes to be great. Maybe he thought it was going to be easy, his one-sided athleticism would carry the day. That notion has been stone cold refuted. Thats not so bad if you are mentally strong.
Whiteside is a good player and we are lucky he signed with us.
There, fixed that rambling exchange for you guys.
Fox is a superstar.
The last ten games or so. Let’s see more before jumping to conclusions.
I’ve seen every game of his pro career. That’s my conclusion.
He destroyed Kawhi Leonard today. If he can destroy Kawhi, who can’t he destroy?
Whiteside…obviously
I would say that if you’ve seen every game of his career then until the last few weeks you drew the wrong conclusion. But that’s great thing about these discussions. Players can improve and become something they weren’t before.
Otis would like to have a word with you. 🙂
It’s always good to avoid throwing shade at a fellow commenter if you’re not responding directly to them. A) none of us are experts, and 2) how would you feel if someone called you out randomly based on something you said previously?
I like Otis, he seems like a good guy. I mean no harm.
And you can speak for yourself, thank you, because I am an EXPERT on all things Kings.
You definitely get your money’s worth on a per words written basis.
I don’t know what that means. I am here for fun and intellectual stimulation, I feel I get that most of the time….
I’m sure you do
I am having fun, how about you?
Now that the game’s over, enjoy the Super Bowl in about 30 minutes, guys and gals. Although I personally never watch the Super Bowl unless the Niners are in it. 😛
Fox is our Mahomes!
Brady!
Montana!
That comment didn’t age gracefully.
Yeah, ouch. 🙁
Niners = Lakers
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Peach’s has a terrible take.
Hot take: The Sacramento Kings are playing their best stretch of games since the mid-2000s !
WE’RE ON OUR WAY!
« You know I’m a dreamer
But my heart’s of gold
I had to run away high
So I wouldn’t come home low
Just when things went right
It doesn’t mean they were always wrong
Just take this song and you’ll never feel
Left all alone
Take me to your heart
Feel me in your bones
Just one more night
And I’m comin’ off this
Long and winding road
I’m on my way
I’m on my way
Holmes sweet Holmes «
I will literally* fight whoever downvoted this
*metaphorically
It was the combined energy of Pam Anderson, Heather Locklear, the surviving members of Hanoi Rocks, Elektra Records, Axl Rose, the people of Greensboro, NC, myriad tour managers, that bouncer that Nikki Sixx called the n-word and had the audience attack, KISS, Kid Rock, hotel cleaning staff, and about a thousand other people.
Axl Rose is sick I don’t know about all that other stuff
Guns n Roses are your band? They underachieved.
Appetite for Destruction was great, I listened to it countless times, then what happened? They put out a crap double album. Axls ego got the best of him, and they either could not produce or or put out a lot of pretentious crap. How many years did we wait for Chinese Democracy, a joke of an album.
Axl has a screechy limited vocal range so he should be commended for getting as far as he did. Then his ego sabotaged his own creative potential with his bandmates. Tool did the same thing by the way, a potential legendary band who flamed out too fast too soon. Maynard James Keenan, another potential legend who fumbled and f*cked himself.
How do I tie this back to the Kings? Unrealized potential. Ego in the way. Unable to get out of the way of their ego and confornt reality. Buddy and Badly have ego in the way. There are bands since Guns n Roses who did let their ego get in the way:
> Heart of a Coward
> Architects
> Bury Tomorrow
> Northlane
> Wolves at the Gate
If you like heavy music like Guns n Rose, try these bands they will blow you away. These bands are what Axl and Guns n Roses culd have become if they did not get lost in the fame and groupies, just like what NBA players could become if they do not get lost in the fame and the groupies.
Axl Rose is a failure in the same way Willie Cauley Stein is a failure, isnt that interesting, two guys with unique talent from divergent pursuits yet so similar in their underwhelming output. Use it or lose it!
Ugh…again, none of us are experts.
I am an expert. Do you want me to count the ways?
if you would just type I know everything it would save so much time.
I dont know everything. I am not always right. I am not a fool.
I thought Buddy would be better, approaching or surpassing his career best 59% TS%, and thought Woodward could be a garbage pail contributor for us….
But it is because I don’t care if I am proven wrong I am often right. I think many people (fans) are afraid to be disproven as incorrect, it is a blow to their ego. So they play it too safe, reserved in their takes.
I dont like group think, I wish there were less of it. I like independent thinkers, even when I am opposed. How can you have keen insight if you have fear of reproach? I am not afraid. I like Kings Fans who go against the grain as long as their takes are rooted in logic.
Fans in general fail to get in touch with their intuitive and divine nature independent of conventional thinking. I don’t expose myself to mainstream. I listen to the Kings Herold Podcast with Tony, Jerry and the other guy….that is the only Kings media I consume.
I never listened to Doug Christie or KHTK anlaysts, or NBA web sites, no disrespect to them but no thank you. I like to take in Kings games without a filter. I have no idea what others are thinking except the comments I read on this site.
Every game on mute and I do not know the other sources, I am not interested. I do not like my perception to be clouded.
But I want to be better in my analysis, I want to superior, the best Kings fan in the Universe! I am already the BEST in my mind,but I want to be better…It i just for fun, just for kicks, but even for fun and kicks why not aspire to be the best?!!
if you would just type I know everything it would save so much time.
Dude. You are exhausting. You are ruining this thread for me.

Don’t read me then. I am not offended. I am not everyone. I don’t want to be for everyone because the masses are a joke. The collective is almost always wrong, unless right by accident, and all you have to do is study history to affirm that. If you are mainstream, you won’t like me. And I take that as a compliment.
I appeal to the independent thinker not the conventional thinker.
my Girlfriend says I want to bully him so bad. I have to be nice and say he probably doesn’t know what he’s saying.
Like luckily she can’t figure out how to log in otherwise she would talk so much shit
he’s either been bullied too much or not enough and I can’t tell which
Well I for one am quite surprised you find the masses to be a joke and they are almost always wrong. Didn’t see that coming.
Looks like SOMEone’s taken 1 too many classes at the community college… ð
What fans need to know is…Fans in general fail to get in touch with their intuitive and divine nature independent of conventional thinking.
Bro….. You had to go all flat earther didn’t you lol
(going ahead and just deleting his comment and commenting elsewhere)
Going to go ahead and issue a warning here – I’d recommend you keep your medical denialism and anti-science schtick deep in your bag and not pull it out again here. Your previous comment has been deleted and nothing further will be tolerated.
People I personally care about have risked their lives for the last year attending to COVID patients that spout the same edgelord bullshit as what got deleted and those patients died of it nonetheless. Friends and family of writers and commenters on this site have died of COVID. You aren’t liberated, you’re miseducated and quite frankly, in the wrong comment section for spouting off about this shit.
Save it for the Youtube comments and 8chan threads or you’ll end up talking basketball exclusively there too.
when you’re in a hole, stop digging
Who is in a hole, the guy who wants to pawn off Harrison Barnes for a bag of chips or me???
Ugh come on dawg
–ouch. Point taken.
Why Axl Rose, though? I still can’t get over “One In A Million”, if the N-word is being brought up. Plus all the other terrible stuff he wrote in those lyrics.
I know nothing about the n-word, but I do know Axl Rose is not a good vocalist!
I like his music talent. Just didn’t like the lyrics for his song One In A Million.
Axly can barely sing. Are you kidding me?!
Appetite for Destruction was an awesome album, then that band self-destructed. There is no reason to respect or like that. If you have a gift, if you have a synergy with Slash and the other band members, you dont throw it away.
They sqaundered so much time and energy when they could have been. cranking out the jams!
GnR did Use Your Illusion 1 & 2, but it was hit and miss songs.
They could have created SO many more great songs during their creativ peak if Axl Rose was not such a self-absorbed narcissitic clown!
And lets tie this back to the Kings…. don’t let your ego get in the way!
Be humble, put in the work, admit to your flaws, and grind. Do not regret what could have been, have a sense of urgency and maximize your innate gifts.
Rock n roll!
Haha sorry, I was just replying to the comment about who downvoted a take on a Crue song, and was joking about it being one of the thousands of people their members have burned bridges with over the years.
I read The Dirt around twenty years ago, and recall a beef between Axl and the band. Something involving them not letting him into a party at their mansion, but letting his manager and the strippers he was in tow with in, and proceeded to do all of his coke while he waited outside in a limo. Or something like that.
Ohhh….haha, I get the joke now. I need to comprehend better!
Yeah, that makes sense. I read The Dirt back then as well, and also knew about Vince and Axl’s beef from back in the days when they kinda did a WWF promo on MTV calling out to fight each other. 🙂
Oh, and RE: “One In A Million”? Skrewdriver, perhaps the most notorious racist punk band in music’s history, covered that song. When neo-nazis pay homage to your glam metal band, you need to rethink a few things.
yikes!
Fox gave it to Leonard down the stretch. I don’t care what anyone says, Fox and this squad are for real. LFG
Basketball is a team game. Yes you do need great players to win, but you also need a team. Not so sure about getting rid of Bagley just yet. He is still young and is evolving. Still think he will be getting better and he is part of a team that is starting to figure things out.
You can’t get rid of everybody that goes through some tough times. Seems like 2 weeks ago everybody wanted to trade HB, not so much now. I want to win now, not 2 years from now.
Also, every one wanted to fire Walton ! Many still do !
Who Barnes is right now is who we want his replacement to be 2+ years from now.
Barnes will be Barnes two years from now and we already have him under contract. So…there’s that.
10 charing me?
And to add on to what I said, if this team keeps playing like this, I would favor riding out HB’s contract and developing his replacement in that timeframe.
This is good
No sense it trading Bags right now, you’d be trading low, instead of high. Let him slowly develop, especially under a different coach next season.
This might be a T-rob or Derrick Williams situation.
Do you know who wanted to trade HB, those who don’t know anything about the NBA, that’s who. You don’t get better by trading away players coming into their highest potential with a 3-4 year window to express that highest potential. It is crazy!
How would we possibly compete against the Cs with Brown or Tatum or Clippers today vs Kawhi without Barnes, we have no one who can present a legimitate matchup. Barnes is a keeper. I hope he retires as a King!
And one thing to think about, even when Barnes has a “bad game” he is still valuable to us.
The problem with Bagley is he is bad at basketball, he is a bit of prima donna, and his physique is terrible. He needs to find another level in the weight room, he should put an artificial cast on his left forearm for 4-8 weeks and learn to play with his right hand.
I think the string of injuries that Bagley had left him mildly traumatized. I am sympathetic to this, it had to be mentally hard on him as Luka soared, and I think it jarred him and effected the way he plays. There’s a lot going on with him but at least he is staying healthy over this stretch.
I would feel better about his potential if we had a better coaching staff. Our coaching staff is an oblivious clownshow.
We are winning despite blowing out only Orlando, this is amazing. Almost every game has been fought posession by posession and we have lost only against Miami.
I was so upset hearing all this clutch talk thinking it would jinx the Kings I could hardly watch the 4th.
You missed a hell of a quarter.
Lol I watched it. I just complained that everyone could’ve jinxed it until they won.
the thing that set me off was that nbcsca ran some stat about Halliburton’s percentages during crunch time but made crunch time = 6 minutes left in a close games. It just felt like they added a minute to the definition of crunch time to pad his stats. It may seem like nothing, but it annoyed me, and I felt like it could be a jinxing situation.
Fox is becoming unguardable. That is only going to open up more shots for Buddy, Haliburton, Barnes, and Holmes.
We need more plays drawn up to get Haliburton shots. Especially with our second unit. The kid is money in the pick n roll and a bonafide sniper from 3.
I feel good having Fox and Hali to be our closers and playmakers during crunch time. Kawhi switched to guard Fox, than Hali had the ball. Moments later it was Lou who was on Fox, who asked the ball desperatly so he could make an iso play. Bad luck that the floater didn’t fall but Barnes was there for the putback
I remember ESPN saying fox was gonna have a big year after his max contract and before preseason but not believing them in the slightest.
*gif of tanks exploding*
YES!
Will, the most important stat for Buddy Yield is he took 18 shots and “only” half of them were 3s, less than his average of 75% of his FGAs from 3.
And lookey here, as a result of taking 9 shots inside the arc, he got to the free throw line 5 times (above his average of 2), though I guess a couple of these were intentional fouls at the end of the game.
I still think Buddy is a farcical and flailing player who needs to lean out and increase his burst and lift. Hes fat and if not fat he’s too bulky. Barnes and Ty never take force 3s because they don’t need to. Buddy is all about chucking away. It is a very selfish mindset that Badly shares.
Today was a modest step in the right direction for Buddy. We saw a couple of steps in the right direction on the road trip, then a reversion.
I have little to NO confidence in Buddy to play consistent hoops and join our 4-player core + Whiteside until he leans out, gains some quickness and burst. Then maybe then he will stop settling for trash shots.
A player only settles for desparate flings when this is the best he can get or he has irrational confidence. There is no reason for Yield to have irrational confidence he is having the worst year of his career.
Buddy is an average player with two exceptional skills: shooting and stamina. Those two skills are very valuable.
Hmmm, okay. What is stamina if it does not amount to efficiency? Buddy looks heavy to me as I have detailed elsewwhere. He gains NO advantage against the opponent. Buddy Yield is shooting 53% TS%…is that exceptional? Ty is 62% TS%. Barnes is 62% TS% . Fox is 56% before tonight, about to go higher.
Buddy is a brickalying joke. He sucks and more than not he sucks the life out of the team and to pretend otherwise is to pretend fantasy. How do I this delicately? Buddy is not good.
Buddy was at 59% TS% when he “earned” his 90M contract, now he is mindlessly launching , getting next to NO FTs and at a career low 53% TS% despite two great setup men in Ty and Fox.
Buddy Yield is an EPIC fail so far this year. Lets not pretend otherwise.
Can he turn it around? Maybe but the ego-dominant player first has to have the humility to admit as much. He is fat and slow and maybe if he addresses if his fatness and slowness with urgency through a body composition cut then said player can be taken seriously.
Until then, dream on dreamer!
I have seen players like Buddy in the NBA for the last 20-30 years…you cannot fool me! Shape up or ship out.
Chuck not impressed with your fat guy NBA takes : )
Lol I read this to my girlfriend because she was wondering why I was laughing so hard. After she heard what you wrote she said I feel bad for him you should buy him grammerly.
But if your “girlfriend” is a blow-up doll how is she going to talk back to you?
You say nothing of substance to retort the substance that I offer.
Buddy is not a good player this year. He has been quantitatively awful.
-15 Net Rtg (career low)
53% TS% (career low)
Who is the fan who says Buddy has “stamina and shooting” anything but a deceiver and denier, it is wishful thinking at best.
Why do we need to pretend Buddy Yield has been anything but piss poor?
Are you here to defend him!?!
Go blow up your doll (aka girlfriend) and maybe you will get some oxygen to your brain to think more clearly!
lol
Dude, that “fat and slow” Buddy Hield guy you’re trying to drag here could break every bone in your Internet-fighting-shape body and run laps for an hour around your writhing, crying form without breaking a sweat. Just stop.
You are like a tiny dog. Just barking to reassure yourself. Pretty, pretty please stop. I mean have an opinion, express your opinion, but honestly I think you just need a hug bro. Can’t you buy somebody to hug you with all your money? Perhaps you could just trick one of the stupid masses into it? Exhausting!
My ex wife said the same thing
Please, no nick names. Can’t we bash players with out becoming ten years old again?
Maybe since Fox is good we should trade him.
Signed,
Those who think trading Barnes is a good idea.
its almost as if some people are incapable of understanding nuance
I think it’s performance art. The best part is, if we don’t trade him and he goes back to his career averages in the near future they’ll be complaining we should trade him.
Cooking chicken and whatever is in the fridge. Bumping my darling SOPHIE and thinking the Kings are kinda fun. A good day.
This feels different than any hot streak the kings have had since the glory days. I’m as skeptical as any on this board but this is a different run. Defense, confidence, a closer. It appears fox as the leader has learned that taking a night off in this league is an auto loss. They are competing hard every single game. That is sustainable. And maybe fox and Buddy and the rest of the guys have finally figured out that EVERYTHING in the NBA is earned. They are sure playing like it and I’m ecstatic
Just saw this on Facebook……
Kings in playoffs….
Makes you go, ‘wow!’
Look at skinny Manny Ramirez. Must be before he got on the juice.
Anyone know the Clippers’ fans preferred fansite?
I vaguely remember they were going away from SBNation, just like we did, and talked about starting their own thing. But I can’t remember which site they went to.
I’m curious because I’ve been enjoying reading coments on other teams’ fansites after the Kings just beat them, to get their takes on our team and players.
Fox, Haliburton, and Barnes all seem to be getting a good deal of praise from other fanbases we’ve played.
It’s 213hoops.com!
Thanks!
btw, I checked ClipsNation on SBN*tion and it has even less fan participation than S*R…..
Don’t think about jumping memberships, now! 😛
Kings stocks are rising! Time to buy!
I know it’s only been a couple weeks. But, Fox is looking like Mamba in the 4th Qtr. Just taking over. I never thought I would see the day. It’s a very very small sample size. But, I am looking forward to see how Fox plays out the rest of this stretch and going into the second half of the season.
Despite forcing one three or another, he’s only doing smart plays and things normal to his game. The mentality is different and having Haliburton besides him helps. I believe it’s sustainable.
This can’t be overestimated right now. Hali’s playmaking and steady hand make Fox’s 4th quarter heroics possible. Fox wouldn’t have the freedom to operate like this without Hali keeping the opponents’ perimeter D honest. How long has it been since the Kings had a rookie–or anyone, really–who was just so dang SMART at basketball? He raises the BBIQ of the entire team. And Fox is no dummy in his own right. This is the smartest Kings team in years, and that’s why their success might, just might, not be a total mirage.
Man, here I was watching the Super Bowl. The Chiefs and the Kings are my two favorite teams. Imagine the defending NBA championship Kings losing game 7 of next year’s NBA finals to the LeBron James led Orlando Magic.
PLAY of the Day………..
Thank you..Barnes…!!!
not an easy task to guard Leonard all day long…and what a offensive rebound over Zubac to extend the lead back to 3…
I would love a Holmes extension right about now … probably won’t happen though. I feel like he’s made himself some good cash so far this year
It can’t happen. You can’t extend a guy on a MLE contract. He’s a UFA not matter what.
Thanks! I thought they could, but it wasn’t a huge offer. Like 2/20 or something. Probably getting confused with someone else.
So is it unlikely we will be able to re-sign Holmes then? Assuming someone offers him a big contract (relatively).
Holmes has been fantastic. But, he does have issues with bigger 5s. I would love for the team to go after Drummond.
Ugh….some of the comments in this thread…
And all of this after a win
I will admit, I thought this would be a good year to suck and get a top 3 pick.
But this is WAY more fun and exciting!
This thread had so much things going on
Nice week of basketball! Some observations:
I have been critical with my comments on Buddy and Bagley for good reasons. I have to give them some credit though, I am seeing some improvement to becoming more complete players from both of them.
BUDDY:
Buddy is now a decent team defender who still needs work as an individual defender. What is encouraging is he is finding other ways to impact the game besides just shooting. His passing has improved and he is rebounding well. His ballhandling still makes me nervous though. When he brings the ball up the court all I can think is ‘Give it up, give it up…’
BAGLEY:
Bagley is playing more team ball than I have ever seen him. He is rebounding well. He is not forcing nearly as many shots. He is getting better as a team defender and is making an effort as an individual defender. He is still well below average at both but I can see he is at least trying to improve. Watch as he is coming off the court for a timeout or sub, there is ALWAYS an assistant in his ear. I guarantee you this is defensive advice. I think he is on info-overload a bit. He has to think about it a little too much right now. I think we all need to remember he is learning on the fly against the best players in the world. He is listening and putting in the effort. He is still super young so I expect if he continues putting in the effort, he will progress.
REST OF THE TEAM:
Fox is moving up the star ladder before our eyes.
I keep expecting Haliburton to come back to earth and he keeps getting better.
Barnes is the ultimate pro, he finds a way to contribute every night.
I love the defensive rotation at center with Holmes and Whiteside even though they both struggled with Zubac yesterday. I also like that they are both very efficient on offense and don’t force shots. They provide exactly what this team needs from that spot, solid picks, defense and rebounding.
Guy and Metu both look to have solid futures.
Joseph, Robinson, meh.
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