Scott Perry’s name has been linked to the recent Sacramento Kings GM opening on multiple occasions now by reputable sources.
We decided to spend an episode diving into Perry’s resume in front offices with Knicks’ reporter, Jonathan Macri.
Scott Perry currently owns the role of General Manager for the New York Knicks where has been employed for roughly three seasons since leaving Sacramento.
Prior to his short stint with the Kings, Perry worked for Detroit (under Joe Dumars) on two occasions, the Seattle Supersonics, and the Orlando Magic.
We closed the episode by sharing our opinions on Perry potentially claiming the role in Sacramento. Let us know your thoughts on Scott Perry as a candidate.
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Scott Perry was great here, but as many have noted here, he was terrible in NY. Keep pushing for Hinkie!
We need fresh blood,. Someone with no previous ties to that meddling little chap.
I may not be remembering right, but I seem to remember Perry being the person who pushed for George Hill, thinking the Kings were a playoff team that offseason. I see a guy with a lot of failure and baffling moves on his resume. I just don’t see any reason the Kings should hire someone like that.
Scott Perry was not great here. He was mediocre at best, which looked amazing next to Vlade.
He signed Hill and Z-bo. Had Fox fall into his lap, otherwise we would’ve taken Josh Jackson. Traded back to draft Justin Jackson and Giles with Mitchell and Adebayo on the board. Perry must have been part of “Didn’t want to take the ball out of Fox’s hands” philosophy.
In addition to mostly bad decisions in NY, preceded by some awful GM-ing in Orlando (Oladipo and Sabonis for Ibaka anyone?)… Get ready for another decade of irrelevance if this guy is the hire. His resume speaks for itself.
I know a few Knicks fans, and they’d be ecstatic to see him go.
I remember the current KH staff being very complementary towards him. At the time, George Hill was a big deal and we were hardly the only ones to pass on Mitchell.
Perry wouldn’t be my first choice either, as I said I prefer Hinkie, but I feel you mostly misrepresent the sentiments about Perry while he was in Sacramento.
I don’t think it was a misrepresentation at all. He was maybe mediocre. Which of course is like a breath of fresh air when you’re drowning in Vlade’s incompetence. So of course people were complimentary.
Kind of like when DMC was here, and it felt like he was a generational talent. We have just been so used to ineptitude, any semblance of success feels like we won a championship.
But I feel like we need to get away from this mentality if this team is ever going to be successful. Like really successful. They tell Sac fans we should just be happy to have a team. So they can operate with little to no accountability for any kind of results.
So yeah if we want to continue on the treadmill of NBA irrelevance, we should continue to entertain hiring the likes of Perry. Those who’s best success in the league took place when C-Webb was the King in Sac. Which tells me the game has probably passed them by.
I think we need to stop thinking small and living in the past. Swing for the fences with Hinkie and let him do his thing.
I definitely agree that Hinkie is the best path forward.
Of all the candidates I’ve seen mentioned, Perry is my least favorite candidate.
Emerging favorite?? Wow it could not get more KANGZY! We need someone new who has no ties to the franchise whatsoever.
Hire anyone on the potential list except for PERRY!
Am I missing something here. This is media driven. Why bother to hire a search firm, if you already know that Scott Perry is the next GM. I have heard a number of candidates in the mix. Is that just BS? I hear Jason Jones clamoring for Perry. Maybe because he worked for the organization before or maybe he bought him a meal deal at Taco Bell. Another reason, I don’t bother to listen to Jones, Kayte, or Ham. They all work for the man. Diatribes based on nonsense. Comparing Perry to the other candidates, one thing is clear. All the other candidates are more qualified and have had more success.
I like Ham, alas he is now a company man, I don’t mind Jason Jones as an employee of the Athletic is has an independent voice does he not?
I’m not impressed at all by Perry’s resume, it’s actually quite bad. I don’t get all this love Perry is getting from the media and with in the organization. I feel we need to brace ourselves for disappointment since hiring sportsology is just a media farce and they will do a circle and get their man which looks like Perry. Why can’t they just get Webster from the raptors or even Brent Barry from the spurs ?? Being a kings fan is so depressing at times.
I will be completely baffled if Perry is the pick. Why the hell would ownership sign off on hiring an expensive head hunter in Forde only to hire they guy they previously employed and vetted. It would stink of Dumars cronyism and would lead me to think that Forde is just a ruse.
This is exactly my thoughts and what I’m afraid will happen at the end.
That would be a pretty price-y ruse. It wouldn’t quite fall in line with your cash-strapped theory.
You are right. I guess we will have to wait and see. The proof will be in the pudding.
Forde isn’t really a head hunter, he’s allegedly a builder of successful culture. Which means all he’d really have to do is convince Vivek to keep himself away from the team outside of, say, attending games…
seems like he’s only getting worse. I don’t think he deserves a GM job anywhere right now. maybe another job like an assistant.
I’d rather we get Mike Zarren, Brent Barry or Sam Hinkie as GMs because the first thing they’ll do is fire Luke Walton and replace him with someone who’s more adept at player development. Would Kenny Atkinson be open to coach the Kings next season?
BREAKING NEWS! Kings front office moving to a neighboring municipality called “Echo Chamber”. It just feels cozy.
I honestly think Scott Perry is easy to discuss in the media since there’s an obvious Kings connection and perceived availability. I don’t know if he can really be considered a front runner though since the race hasn’t even started. The actual list of candidates probably hasn’t even been finalized yet.
Point being, I just think there’s a slight difference between favored to win and leading the race. I would hope the point of bringing Forde in is to give them options to compare to a theoretical Dumars/Perry front office. That’s speculation on my part, but it’s the only way I can really make sense of the process.
Considering the team’s history, the list could be Perry, Perry, Perry, Vivek’s son, Perry. In that order.
OT: Not quite White Rabbit
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Some say Patrick Williams,
Perhaps LaMelo Ball.
Will Vivek or Matina
Or Joe Dumars make the call?
Go ask Dallas, if Luka shares the ball.
If you repeat Vlade’s habits
You should know you’re going to fall.
Tell em all look at how his bad pick
Can’t stay on the court at all!
Go ask Dallas, if Luka shares the ball.
When the names on the whiteboard
Have the best choice listed too low,
And you’ve wasted all of your cap room,
And your chance you’re going to blow!
Go ask Dallas;
I think they know!
When your coaching’s an abortion
With playoff chances dead,
And Kings Herald’s jammed with comments
As the fan base calls for his head,
Remember what Joe Dumars did!
Darko’s his!
Darko’s his!
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Throw ALL THE MONEY at Webster to be the BBOps leader and have him bring along Tolzman as GM. Done. You’re welcome.
dream scenario. Who would be your favorite targets for a new HC if that happens?
I don’t know. Stick with Toronto and give Stack his big shot? Go with a proven player dev guy with a rebuilding team and hire Atkinson? See if there’s any amount of money that can convince Jay Wright to leave Philadelphia? Ultimately, if they make a good GM hire, I’m happy to trust their coach decision.
Scott Perry is still the GM of the Knicks, right? Why would he want to come back to the Kings? Is he even interested? Just asking…really wasn’t impressed with him here anyway.
Probably because even the Knicks realize he’s not a good GM. The fact he’s even being mentioned is likely his camp sensing he’s gonna be replaced. So they float his name out there. While the Knicks haven’t canned him yet, because maybe they can get a pick from whatever dumbass team hires him.
So who’d be stupid enough to pick him up? Hmm maybe the Kangz. And our lap dog media eats it up. Instead of doing any critical thinking of their own… like “wait a minute… don’t the Knicks suck? And has Perry done anything to fix it? What about his time in Orlando?”
Nah, it’s all about his time a decade and a half ago with Joe in Detroit… or “hey, he picked De’Aaron Fox!” Never mind that was the consensus pick there… and don’t pay attention to his other picks, or who was on the board that he missed. Or the vets he overpaid to come here.
Does our media even watch basketball?? Like they literally spent 5 years sucking on Vlade’s nuts, and now after a fan uprising and even more embarrassing basketball performance than usual for this dismal franchise they have been proven wrong again.
We need another article in the Bee from the magnificent Kings Herald writers. “Why Scott Perry (and Joe Dumars) are Not Good GM Candidates For the Kings.”
Hinkie please. Blow this shit up.
Well said Airmax. Thank you.
When will they ever learn?
I don’t understand all the noise for Hinkie.
For me, he’s the best candidate who has proven he can succeed as lead decision-maker. I also think it’s highly possible that people like Webster and Zarren could be very strong as well. But they are somewhat unproven, since those two work under Ujiri and Ainge, respectively.
But Hinkie was the guy in Philly. It’s not even known how his decisions would look here. But he took a team that on the treadmill of mediocrity. He dismantled it, and now they are relevant in this league. Maybe it would look different in Sac, perhaps he’d keep some key pieces around and build. But I’d trust his judgment since he’s done it before. He made some mistakes in Philly, but overall what he accomplished should warrant another shot, in my opinion.
I’d be happy if we get an up-and-comer, but Hinkie’s just personally my first choice.
Am I the only one who recalls 6+ years of tanking to get where they are now? The “Fire Hinkie” chants that rained from the rafters down upon the heads of the players during the last 2-3 years of his reign? The fact that that The League Office ultimately had to get involved to remove him from his role?
Philly fans may be reaping some rewards at the moment but they’re still trying to figure out how to deal with having 2 star players who can’t shoot and have yet to make it to a Finals appearance for all the suffering, so I just don’t see the appeal, I really don’t…
It was 3 years of suffering for what should be at least a perennial playoff team for 7-8 years (including the last 3). I think many Kings fans would take that in a heartbeat.
Who knows how it would have turned out if he hadn’t been replaced right before their rise? Perhaps he wouldn’t have handcuffed them with big contracts to Harris and Horford. Maybe he’d have traded one of the stars for better fit… who knows?
But we do know that he took a team that was irrelevant and largely because of his work, that team is the best it has been in 2 decades.
Yeah, it’s a little hard to imagine an active GM like Hinkie having the same exact roster as Philly is sporting right now.
Yes, exactly.
This could be just media hype about someone they know, someone reporters are comfortable working with, so they promote him.
But, if Perry turns out to be the guy, it will probably be indicative that the Kings can’t play in the big leagues when it comes to recruiting front office talent. Perry is the guy the Kings get when all the others turn the Kings down, or make it clear they are already happy where they are, comfortable with the opportunities they have in their own organizations.
To get beyond the Perry, the Kings have to do some obvious things:
(1) pay the money required, which is probably an overpay to get the person to come here;
(2) grant them the power to remake the organization from the top down, which will entail more firings, and bringing in more people from the outside, starting with a new coach
(3) allocate more resources throughout the organization for scouting, coaching, player development, analytics; and
(4) agree that Vivek will stay out of all decision making, and accept that his role is now limited to sitting curtside
This sounds more like a President of Basketball Operations, which I think Vlade actually was, except that the Kings actually combined this position with the GM one, someone else here can educate me on this
If so, this means the Kings need to hire a President of BB Ops and a GM, a restructuring that Forde cold help them with a lot. But I am dubious that Vivek and the ownership can make these commitments.
Same old Kings. Person emerges as favorite, despite no actual interview process having been put in place.
Perry is the favorite now? The most underwhelming candidate mentioned in the search, and he’s the favorite. Of course he is. It just gets harder and harder to have any optimism with this team. I guess.. kangz gonna Kang
Sorry to be off topic on his thread but I really look forward to Bagley being able to carry the team in the playoffs. Yes, I’m watching the Mavs-Clips game.
And yes, I posted that just after Morris put the Clips up.
:sigh:
THREAD JACK: We need to hire Vlade back just to fire him again, that Luka shot was incredible. A 43pt triple double for a win against the Championship contending Clippers. …But hey Bagley can jump a lot on the rare occasions where he is not injured.
My thoughts:
https://twitter.com/adamdieter/status/1297665679248654337
I would have to agree, he was an absolute disaster. He make millions for ultimately doing more harm than good. He should never work in an NBA Front Office again.
Vlade will forever be known as the man who passed on Luka Doncic. Oddly, Travis Schlenk of the Hawks still gets a pass, although it is hard to believe that Trae Young will be anything near the player Doncic is.
At least Young is an All-Star and legit good. He also got an additional pick out of it. Not great in a vacuum but miles better than Vlade.
I don’t care what anyone says. Kings should unretire Vlade’s jersey.
Vlade should never show his face in Sacramento again. His legacy is permanently ruined.
No. I’m not there. I can separate the player in Vlade from the GM in Vlade. One is not like the other. I can pretty assuredly say that at both stages he had the Kings at heart and wanted them to succeed. It is just that Vlade should not have been a GM, but he will forever be in my heart as a player.
That was the game people will watch in 20 years as start of Luka legend… absolutely unreal
That game winner hit me harder than the last 8 games of Kings bubble basketball
I wonder if Grant Napear was watching?
And as much fun as it is to beat on Vlade for being a dumbass, I don’t think Phoenix or Atlanta get a pass anymore. Doncic is clearly a higher level NBA talent.
They shouldn’t get passes, but at least Ayton and Trae Young have some trade value (as of today) and skills that translate in an NBA game. Either way, I feel for Marvin. He will always be tied to this.
Also, didn’t the Hawks get an extra first round pick out of the deal? It is not Luka but as was mentioned at the time (…I think it might have been you Otis, maybe Rob) it was much better asset management.
Yes, it turned into Reddish.
I don’t think anybody gets a pass. But they are different degrees of screw ups. I’d say the order of the Doncic screw up rankings currently goes Kings……………….. Suns… Hawks.
This time we’ll need tar and feathers.
We should also pelt him with peaches.
Really want Grant to be allowed to come back to KHTK for a day and explain why he thinks Luka is not as great as Kings fans think he is, because he is a turnover prone, ball dominant player, and then have to take calls from fans about it for 3 hours.
I love how Grant and Vlade’s burner accounts are still coming around disliking comments.
Probably from one of the fans who said I cherry picked my statement that Oden has played more games than Bagley in 2 years. It’s on the Kings Facebook post lol.
Help me out here…
Two and a half years ago, on that other site which shouldn’t be named, there were fans who were posting TANK FOR LUKA comments. But there’s this one fan who I remember was doing it more often.
Please identify yourself! I can imagine you’d always want to kick Vlade in the ass for what maybe the biggest blunder of any NBA draft in history.
Sometimes I wonder how self-hating I’d have to be to get a Luka Kings’ jersey as an eternal reminder of our franchise’s massive failure. It’s almost a Greecian style tragedy.
Watching Luka doing incredible things IN THE PLAY-OFFS is just too painful. As much as I was enjoying that game, I was also sick to my stomach. Vlade even ruined my enjoyment of watching other teams (Jazz is also an issue, but hey, we had Justin Jackson…).
I understand that being a fan is dealing with ups and downs, and most likely with more downs than ups. But the gap between the two for a Kings fan is so big, I cannot do it anymore, I think.
There are just too few highs to cherish, too many lows keep digging up hope and positivism. There should be joy in the process of watching a team dig itself a way out of the pit of doom but when they then tumble into the ravine of despair, there’s no joy left.
As much as I like everyone at TKH, that is not enough to make up for the frustration.
I tried to stay aloof and not be bothered, but I cannot be emotionally uninvested. Perhaps I need to shift my emotional investment to something else.
Does anyone know a good Mavs fanboard? Please?
I do wonder as there are only so many of these jobs that are available who coveted is the Kings job? If you are big name probably not as those type of folks can wait for the better jobs to come available. but if you are an ambitious guy stuck in a good organisation is the Kings job one that you’d consider
I have no idea as to who the bright young voices are in other successful teams front offices. But that is where I think the Kings need to look. I’d be weary of hiring a retread especially on older exec as to have the energy and desire to commit to looking at every angle and option to make this team better. Amongst Vlade’s many faults in my opinion was a lack of imagination and creativity to make this roster better. For example assuming Sam Hinkie was interested would he really want to commit to this process again?
Every exec makes bad decisions even Jerry West
To me you pick an exec from a organisation that’s progressive and analytical in its thinking, Toronto, comes to mind, as does Oklahoma and Houston who are active in the market place and obviously have a handle on the talents around the league. get him some advisers and help in the front office and let them get started
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