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jwalker1395
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The Kings will likely pick in the top 10 this year, so let's sort out the big board:

 

1. Cade - No explanation needed.

2. Suggs - The Carmelo Anthony to Cade's LeBron James. Checks all the boxes and has no downsides to his game, only parts that need refinement.

3. Mobley - Highest potential in the draft except maybe Cade. Can't teach his size, length, and coordination.

4. Green - 18 ppg as an 18 year old kid playing against G-Leaguers is no joke. Will be a No. 1 scoring option for years. 

5. Barnes - First surprise! Barnes size, length and athleticism will make him a DPOY candidate one day and his passing is enough to make up for his deficiencies on the offensive side. Will be a great 4/small ball 5 with shooters around him ala Draymond or Simmons.

6. Bouknight - A walking bucket. Rivals Green in potential as an offensive-minded wing. Potential as a No. 1 scoring option for years.

7. Kuminga - Slight fall for Kuminga outside the Top 5. His frame, athleticism, and motor make him an incredible player to project all your hopes and dreams on, but he needs development. I could see him as Harrison Barnes 2.0 one day, but he needs coaching (and he's not getting it in Sac).

8. Mitchell - A winner. Going to be a starting-level PG for years. Doesn't fit the Kings needs, but his toughness and ability on both sides of the floor make him a sure-thing two-way player.

9. Wagner - Now we're picking players who need to have their relative strengths/weaknesses weighed. Wagner is a long, athletic defender who can stay in front of nearly anybody. I trust his ability to be a productive player for a long-time for his 3&D potential alone, and anything beyond that is a bonus.

10. Jones - This is throwing darts at a board. I could make an argument for a dozen different players here. Ultimately, Jones has length, athleticism, and motor you can't teach. He's a major project, but at the end of it you could have another All-NBA level defender at the stretch 5 position. 

 

Honorable mentions - 11. Josh Giddey, 12. Roko Prkacin, 13. Moses Moody, 14. Jalen Johnson, 15. Corey Kispert, 16. Keon Johnson

 

What does your board look like?


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My board:

1) Cade Cunningham 

2) Evan Mobley 

3) Jalen Green

4) Jalen Suggs

5) Jonathan Kuminga 

6) Scottie Barnes

7) Jalen Johnson

8) Alperin Sengun

9) Josh Giddey

10) Moses Moody

11) Franz Wagner

12) Keon Johnson

13) James Boughknight

14) Davion Mitchell

15) Corey Kispert

Reasons for differences:

1) I'd have no issue with Scottie Barnes going before Kuminga, but I think that Green overshadowing Kuminga made people forget the raw ability Kuminga has. If Barnes becomes a star, if feels like he'll been a Draymond Green-style one; Kuminga still has the potential to be a traditional All-Star.

2) Jalen Johnson was understandably pilloried for his decision to leave Duke early, but damn he has talent. John Hollinger pointed out that Johnson put up €œvideo game numbers€ per-36 when he played; he's tremendous defensive, inside scoring and passing ability, with signs that he could develop a steady shot. Small sample size sure, but Johnson undoubtedly has the ability to make a bunch of GMs live in regret for passing over him.

3) As for Sengun and Giddey, I have a soft spot for guy who perform at a high level in high-level foreign leagues. Plus, both are highly skilled, talented, and productive  players who are overlooked because they don't possess insane athleticism or measurements. That feels like a mistake, and has often been before.

 

 


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@titlechaser

Sengun's got loads of talent, no doubt. I just think he's an endangered species in the modern NBA and would rather take a dynamic forward/wing rather than a traditional big man (albeit a good one). If we traded back and he was around past #20 that's an easy pickup.

I felt the same way about Jalen J originally, but when I looked back at his tape I ultimately backed off of him for on-court reasons. He seems to be a bit of tweener - not quick enough to guard wings/shiftier forwards, not big enough to handle bigger forwards/centers. He also doesn't seem to have a high defensive IQ. As for his offensive skillset, I like his passing and transition ability, but am uncertain that either of these skills are at the level they'd need to be for him to be an effective point forward. Maybe he gets his head right, maybe he develops properly. If it happens, he'll be an All-Star. It's just too many maybes for me (especially for a team like the Kings who don't have the most stellar record of developing players, temperamental or otherwise). That said, I'd understand the homerun swing at #9, but I just feel it's more likely than not to be a BIG whiff.

It's interesting to see how much disagreement there is past the first few guys. We may end up with another Haliburton situation at 9 with a Barnes or Kuminga, you never know!


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Cade, Mobley, Green, then Suggs, Kuminga and Barnes. Last 2 are about even.

at 7- K. Johnson because best athlete, Moody- good size and versatile, Bouknight- can score but may be undersized and not sure of defense, Mitchell- tough nosed and improving shooter but small, Wagner- low ceiling/low floor, J. Johnson- high ceiling/low floor, Sengun, Giddey, Kispert and Jones.

Different order. 

For Kings- Moody, Sengun, Wagner and J. Johnson if gets a complete look over.  Don't need Mitchell, Bouknight is a scorer but undersized, Giddey too many current flaws 


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Got some free time so here's my 60 player big board:

Tier 1a

    Cade

Tier 1b

    Suggs

    Green

Tier 2

    Mobley

    Barnes 

    Bouknight

Tier 3

    Kuminga

    Mitchell

    Jalen Johnson

Tier 4

    Wagner

    Moody

    Sengun

    Ziaire

    Mann

Tier 5

    Giddey

    Garuba

    Prkacin

    Kispert

Tier 6

    Keon Johnson

    Kai Jones

    Josh Christopher

    Isaiah Jackson

    Sharife Cooper

    Jaden Springer

Tier 7

    Duarte

    Jared Butler

    Hyland

    Nix

    Bassey

    Thomas

Tier 8

    Sharpe

    Duke

    McBride

    Edwards

    Dosunmu

    Todd

    Brown

    Thor

Tier 9

    Ayayi

    Juzang

    Boston Jr.

    Bagley

    Shannon Jr. 

    Primo

Tier 10

    Garza

    Johnson

    Murphy III

    Jones

    Livers

    Robinson-Earl

    Henry

    Julian Champagnie

    Weiskamp

Tier 11

    Gray

    Petrusev

    Jokubaitis

    Wiggins

    Abmas

    Grimes

    Bleijenbergh

    

    

 


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