Marvin Bagley refused to enter the second half of Monday’s game against the Phoenix Suns, according to a new report this evening from Sean Cunningham. Sean’s tweet also includes video of Bagley returning to the bench after not entering.
Multiple sources told me that Marvin Bagley III refused to check into Sunday's game when Luke Walton called upon him in the second half vs. the Suns.
I didn't report it, wanting to first talk to the Kings coach.
Walton said he & Marvin are in communication and has to be ready pic.twitter.com/m3E6JxaeVk
— Sean Cunningham (@SeanCunningham) November 11, 2021
Cunningham asked Walton about the issue, but Walton would not confirm that Bagley had refused, saying that any issues would remain in-house.
Kings coach Luke Walton when asked if Marvin Bagley III refused to enter Monday's game against the Suns: “Anything that happens within our group, that’s between our group, so the thing that matter is people know what’s expected and we continue to move forward tonight.”
— Jason Anderson (@JandersonSacBee) November 11, 2021
This is obviously the smart way to handle things from Walton and the Kings’ perspective. It’s assumed Marvin has no future with the organization and will be traded at the first reasonable opportunity. Confirming a report like this would not have any benefit to Bagley’s trade value.
As a Kings fan, it’s hard not to be mad at this. Before the first game of the season Marvin Bagley’s agent, Jeff Schwartz, publicly complained that Bagley was not in the Kings rotation for that night. Bagley simply can’t have it both ways. You can be mad at not playing or you can choose not to play when given the chance, but you don’t get to do both.
This incident would certainly answer the lingering question of why Walton played Chimezie Metu and Damian Jones on Monday against the Suns. It was seen as odd at the time that they played instead of Bagley.
It’s worth noting that Metu and Jones have also had minimal roles in the rotation this year, but when given the opportunity they played well and helped the team return from a deficit. Walton rewarded them by leaving both in even in the final minutes when the Kings had brought the game within 2 points with seconds remaining. They made the most of their opportunity.
But I’m sure Marvin’s approach is good too.
Injured yet again. This time he’s butt hurt.
Send him home. He’s a sunk cost at this point. Bring up Lou King.
DNP-FH
Feelings Hurt
Good thing they didn’t trade him after year 1 or 2. It wasn’t like one could tell how crappy Bags was almost immediately.
Make a horrible draft decision and compound it with stubborn ego. Kangz
If this is true, then fuck that guy. Send him home until he can be traded. If no one wants him, cut him at after the deadline. At best the Kings can offer him the chance to play in Stockton and salvage what little of a career he has left.
He deserves no more chances or opportunity from this organization in any capacity . NONE.
Kings can’t afford to expose this guy as an asshole. He is a trade chip/salary filler/lottery ticket for a potential trade partner. Not sure why Lose would have offered, maybe to let Marvin show he is an NBA player? I think he was asked if he wanted to play, not get in there…NOPE. More like Marv you want some
game time? Nah I’m good.
Unfortunately, I think that it is too late.
Henry Turner made a great point on the radio pre-game show this evening: If Marvin had entered the game and played well, and been part of the big comeback vs Phoenix, he could have changed the entire narrative about him in 10 minutes. Instead, he chose to sit down and confirm everybody’s worst impression of him. Marvin Bagley is an idiot.
I say keep him around so you can trade him to either a really shitty team where he can be entrapped in a losing culture or to a really good, but not championship, team and get no playing time.
I say keep him around as an example to other young guys of how NOT to be a successful NBA player. “See Marv over there, don’t be like Marv.”
That’s actually how foraging peoples—who share food—use freeloaders who don’t at least try to help. They are moral examples of how not to be.
start withholding his checks. This dude just collecting millions while refusing to do his job. Unprofessional, and undeserving of the money he’s being given. Disperse his salary among families who need it.
What an entitled ASSHOLE if true.
He will have made over $36M by the end of this season (virtue of his rookie salary scale). Has there ever been an NBA player to make more having done so little? Even #1 pick Anthony Bennett didn’t make as much because folks were right not to extend him on his rookie scale deal.
Just to be clear, Monte did exercise the team option on Bagley less than a year ago to guarantee him for this year.
Was the choice to not pick up the option? You wanted a repeat of the Harry Giles situation?
When he’s played, he has put up some empty stats. He gets numbers, but he has a low ceiling and refuses to improve or be a good teammate. His awful defense overshadows the scoring and rebounding he does produce. He’s a less charming Michael Beasley.
Luka Doncic was taken AFTER this guy
…I’m ok…. I’m ok……….
My god, what is that from?
Possession.
It’s a CRAZY film starring one of the greatest actors ever, Isabelle Adjani (the woman in the gifs)
….I seriously almost want to tear my hair out if I think about everything that’s happened since the 2018 draft night.
Did she take possession out of Fox’s hands?
Ha! She did more than that!
What is the movie?
Possession
Whoa! I broke down and paid way, way too much for a copy of this a few days ago and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive. It’s so beautiful and so…slimy.
I happened to watch it for the first time at the Laemmle theater in Glendale a few days before Halloween.
You’ve seen it before, eh?
So we’re about 10 other players significantly better than Bags. Players actually contributing to the team. And participating.
i guess Bags really is ego driver, outta touch and entitled
And Trae Young. And Jaren Jackson Jr. And Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. And…..just f*ck.
Gary Trent jr. was taken waaaaay after this guy.
It is because “Better player, better fit.”
You’re not Ben Simmons, Marvin.
Trade this toddler for a bag of chips, and throw in his dad for a Take 5 bar.
A Bagley of chips
Marvin Bagley: The face of a franchise that has been set back ten years. Welcome to Mt. Bustmore, Marvin. Right next to Pervis, Thomas Robinson and Jimmer Fredette.
Nik Stauskas: “Hold my beer.”
I considered Nik, and Ben McLemore. My monument is based partly on where they went in the draft and partly on what the other options were. There were a treasure trove of players at 7 in the Jimmer draft, and the Kings of course passed on Dame to draft T-Rob. Pervis was the #1 pick. And we’ve gone over the disaster that was/is the Bagley pick. Nik and Benny Mac just don’t quite make it onto my mountain side.
I totally get it, I just felt the need to point out that lists of busts over the past 15 years is painfully long.
I think I’d put money on Vivek being the #1 owner of players drafted that were busts and washed out of the league during his tenure. Vlade has to be #1 GM, and Vivek is only being held above water with the recent picks by McNair.
If Bagley washes out, Vlade will only have Fox and WCS. That’s it. Every other pick has dropped out of the league.
Underrated in awfulness is the total lack of yield that he got with the #10 pick in ’17. Look at the players that went after #10. Look at the players that he could have taken at #15 & #20. Truly awful.
For sure. So many misses with that #10 trade back. Vlade could have thrown darts at a board with that pick instead of trading back.
In order: Kenard, Mitchell, Bam, Collins, Allen, OG. Kuzma, White, Hart. That’s 9 out of the last 20 players picked in the first round after Vlade pulled his trigger.
What a depressing stat that is.
Vivek just had to wait until the absolute catastrophe of a climax to do anything about it, in Vlade picking Bagley over Doncic or anyone else ,like Trae or Jaren Jackson Jr, who would have been better.
McLemore keeps making NBA rosters.
From the looks of the last couple seasons, Portland’s may be his last.
Passed on Rubio and Curry for Tyreke, who was considered a reach at the time. Sure, he had probably a better rookie season with that whole “20-5-5 stat line” and now stands among the greats in his rookie season with those stats or whatever.
You’re gonna need a bigger mountain.
I read it in Roy Scheider’s voice and legit lol’d.
Roy Scheider was in All That Jazz….I see the Vivek connection
I wasn’t around for Pervis, but TRob & Jimmer didn’t infuriate me as much as Bustley has.
I have a feeling that, sometime in 2022 or so, a Jimmer-to-Bagley alley-oop will be a thing that gets 20,000 Shanghainese fans on their feet.
Be amazing to see. Hopefully it happens.
At least Jimmer had some sense of humility, went to China, and turned into a legend there. Bagley would refuse to play in China because he’s too good for it.
Hats off to those who still get angry over any dysfunction coming from one of the worst franchises in the history of professional sports.
I keed, I keed!!!
double dookie: not only is Bagley crap for sitting out, he’s not a good player.
Right?
I just chuckled.
I feel like a Fu@$ Vivek needs to be here. Can’t be horrible without atrocious ownership.
I hate to defend this guy, but the Kings have completely mishandled the situation. Cut him or trade him, but don’t completely banish him from the floor. They gave this guy major minutes the last few years and now they’re basically saying you’re worthless. He might be (I doubt it), but what does the current situation accomplish.
Uhhh, they didn’t banish him. He refused to go in the last game. He’s the one acting like a toddler.
Maybe they didn’t say please?
Marvin should be the one saying please.
Uh, he has played in ONE game. It’s obvious they are trying to send a message. The Kings management just has no clue what that message is supposed to be.
I feel like the message was “You’re currently not good enough to crack the rotation so keep working and stay ready because you may be given the opportunity to prove yourself.”
Bagley basically responded with folding his arms and pouting in the corner.
I agree with this but in addition I think the message was if you’re a bad defender you’re not going to get playing time so if you want to get on the floor work on your defense. The closest I’ve heard Marvin talk about working on defense is when he talked about working with DC and even that was pretty weak testimony.
Maybe, like “you need to earn your minutes like everyone else”?
So wait, are we saying that he didn’t deserve any minutes over the past three years? Because the team was was either really incredibly dumb or they thought he had some degree of talent.
Read what you just wrote.
“incredibly dumb or they thought he had some degree of talent.”
Great description of the whole situation.
Bjelly deserved to start last season, not Bustley.
Amen.
rec.
It was both.
Not nearly as many as he got. He got minutes for a long time because he was a No. 2 pick, and the hope was that he would develop and understand how to play in the NBA. But when it became obvious that wasn’t happening, he still got minutes, and Walton kept talking him up in post game press conferences.
There’s a financial incentive if he doesn’t play a certain amount. That’s probably worth more value in a trade than his actual skills. But his QO is much lower by not meeting a minutes played threshold this year.
This needs to stay quiet no selling at the now lower bottom. He is a guy some other team will take as filler thinking”well it’s the Kings, Dude is probably an All-Star” we will trade a serviceable guy for a shot at glory.
You think that there is a GM in this league that is unaware of this situation? And before you answer, remember, Vlade is “retired.”
Teams get ahead of this crap. They know when to cut bait. Kings are now sitting on a totally worthless No. 2 pick in the NBA draft.
And they are paying him pretty good money.
Remember that the FO had tried to trade him for S. Bey, it’s just the Piston refused.
He got no value now.(other than expiring contract)
we have to just wait until trade deadline.
right now, just DNP-CD him is the best.
Best for the team.
p.s. I wish to know what D. Christie thought, maybe he wa ms thinking :”what the Fxxk of going on with this guy”
It’s unprofessional to not go into a game that you’re called to go in for.
I can’t imagine Doug Christie would be ok with that.
I’m sure as hell Jerry Reynolds is not ok with that, and will say something about it on the next podcast.
This dude is getting paid to ….. to pull this shit?
Kenny Thomas made this exact point in the pregame show and compared it to his tenure with the Kings.
Ah, glad to hear that!
Bagley should have gone into the game, at least to keep the negative spotlight off of himself. Bagley refusing seems no different from what’s going on with Ben Simmons, which I guess you could argue is OK because Simmons is a better player, but it seems the same to me.
Regardless, Bagley’s agent said the Kings passed on deals (plural) for him, and now they’ve anchored him to the bench in a contract year. From Bagley’s perspective, it looks like the Kings are intentionally trying to ruin his next contract by refusing to play or trade him. That may not be what’s happening, and I think Bagley’s team is filled with idiots, but I’m sure that’s exactly what they’re thinking.
Bagley is wrong *and* this whole situation is being stupidly mismanaged by the Kings. This has been festering for years at this point, and it was obvious it was going to get worse. There’s zero reason for Bagley to be here at this point (or two months ago, or six months ago). This isn’t complicated. Just trade the guy already. Dealing him for slightly less expiring salary is fine, saves the team some cash, and removes a problem. What are they waiting for?
“From Bagley’s perspective, it looks like the Kings are intentionally trying to ruin his next contract by refusing to play or trade him.”
Possibly true, but the Kings wouldn’t play him if he could positively contribute?
Also, a trade requires a partner on the other side. Another team would have to decide that it would prefer Bagley over others on the roster, and others it could obtain through trade. I’m not sure that there is a team that would trade for Bagley and take on more salary than what it sends out.
I’ve said this before but a “good deal” in the eyes of his agent is not necessarily a good deal (and I’d be willing to argue was not a good deal) for the Kings. If the Kings got an offer for Marvin that was good for the organization do you seriously believe they would have passed on it? I don’t. I think Marvin’s agent was being disingenuous here.
More minutes for Metu and Damian Jones.
And yeah, please bring up Louis King.
I think Bagley is in for a rude awakening after he eventually leaves Sacramento, if he believes his career will blossom elsewhere.
Maybe it’ll blossom overseas…
Blossom?
I hear China is beautiful this time of year.
Bagley’s nickname should be “Delicate little flower”
Well he has been training since the start for his rap music career.
I do have to thank Marvin for prudent management of my money. Had the Kings drafted Doncic I’d have season tickets right now. Thanks Marvin!!!
Just imagine how much Vivek would’ve made just off jersey sales alone had they drafted Luka. Tremendous amount of could’ve-had revenue.
I do get a chuckle out of that because I know the Maloofs would have insisted on Luka, if only for that reason.
Eh, not sure about that. I’ve consistently heard they never interfered with who the team picked.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, because I know nothing about anything that’s not green and grows out of the ground, but it’s hard to believe Petrie picked Jimmer Fredette on his own.
You are damn right.
Doncic’s jersey is so popular not only in US, but also worldwide.
Lots of people are wearing Doncic’s jersey in HK, even I got one Doncic’s jersey.
I can’t think of a single instance of a Bagley jersey being spotted at G1C, unless it was on the Kings bench for roughly 25-40 games a season.
Seriously.
I’d be broke because I’d be going to games all the time and happily paying for $13 beers.
🙁
I’m ready to see more Metu and Jones. Jones especially to back up Holmes.
Are you ignoring Alex Len ?
Bjelica is laughing about this, as he plays for the 9-1 Warriors.
Bjelica is only shooting .579 from three so far, so I don’t see what he has to gloat about. :-0
And plays very well, not to mention. What an absolute joke that he sat behind Bagley.
Why is Marvin Bagley still on the Kings? Deal him for expiring salary, buy him out or cut him. I see no reason for the Kings to keep allowing this situation to get worse.
He’s paid a salary that fits well as filler in trades and I don’t think Bagley has any gravity or clout to pull team chemistry down from the bench. At worst he’s a pouty, walking trade exception.
Can they just send him to Stockton and let him disappear like a fart in the wind?
If the Kings were to cut Bagley, it won’t happen until after the trade deadline. His salary is valuable filler in a potential trade.
The last remaining stench of the Vlade era. Cannot wait until they finally flush this turd
Dude SUCKS.
Dwayne Schintzius, (R.I.P), gave more effort than this clown
Anybody watch the interview with him about his brother posted on the Team Bagley Twitter account?
It is genius. Marvin is saying his brother chose not to enter the draft but is easily better than the players he plays against in the NBA night in and night out.
Brother is so good he goes back to college. Marvin plays nightly.
This piece of shit is deranged. He has no idea what reality is because his “team” has hidden him from reality.
Is this for real? Because it reads like brilliantly written satire.
It is very real. The interview is still posted.
Ah yes, little Bagley is such an outstanding player that he chose perennial NCAA powerhouse ASU to play basketball at…..
Trash human
A waste of COVID free air.
Knowing that this is at odds with everyone who ever posts on this subject here, I’ll post anyway. The guy is 22. In his time in the NBA, he’s averaged about 15 pts. and 8 rebounds per 30 min. played. Those numbers were put up with him being played 30 feet from the basket for the most part and no post plays being run for him (his strength coming into the league). It is understandable to me if he feels that Luke Walton has done everything in his power to sabotage his career before he reaches 23 . . . he has. The agent is right, whether you think Bagley is talented or believe he can’t play at all, the Kings as an organization have totally botched this situation in every possible way, including the original selection obviously. I believe Bagley will go elsewhere and average 20/10 for quite a while (something we could have used). In any event, the Kings need to end this and do whatever they are going to do well before the trade deadline.
There are a lot of things that NBA players have to do to get on the floor and perform well that don’t show up on the stat sheet.
Bagley does none of them, which is why he doesn’t play.
It’s hard to see him getting 20/10 when he’s shown zero improvement to his game in his first three seasons.
Don’t see that. He’s a career 15/8 per 30 min. coming into this year in which he hasn’t been allowed to play. I would expect at least that and probably more if he gets consistent minutes. But that obviously will never occur here, so just trade him already and be done with it. He may well be selfish and care more about his numbers than the team . . . and that would put him in the same category of about half or more of the players in the league, including several others on the Kings.
Continues to confirm my pre-draft impression of him. Cares more about himself than about winning or contributing to a team.
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