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Report: Terence Davis has agreed to a two-year, guaranteed deal with the Kings

The inevitable has happened.
By | 125 Comments | Aug 4, 2021

Credit: Trevor Ruszkowski-USA TODAY Sports

Back in July, the Kings extended a qualifying offer to 23-year-old guard Terence Davis, making him a restricted free agent, and revealing their intent to keep him in Sacramento long-term. According to a report from ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski on Wednesday, Kings general manager Monte McNair is doing exactly that.

Based on what was reported through the first several days of free agency, there didn’t appear to be a lot of interest in Davis from competing teams around the league, but his restricted status with the Kings certainly contributed to that. The Kings acquired Davis from the Toronto Raptors at the trade deadline last season for a 2021 second round pick.

Davis averaged 11.1 points, 3.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, and 1.0 steals on .439 shooting from the field, and .372 shooting from three in 21.5 minutes per game over 27 games for the Kings last season.

Terence Davis is only 6-4 and best utilized in the backcourt, but he saw hefty minutes on the wing in three guard lineups last season, a role he will likely play a lot of again in 2021-22 considering the Kings’ current logjam at guard. According to Basketball Reference, Davis split time pretty evenly between SG and SF after he was acquired by the Kings in March.

Update: HoopsHype’s Michael Scotto reports that the deal is for two years, $8 million.

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1951
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August 4, 2021 11:15 am
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August 4, 2021 11:19 am
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Those lineups are really depressing to look at.

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August 4, 2021 11:34 am
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LOL where is Buddy? Did I miss his trade?

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August 4, 2021 12:32 pm
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He exists in this scenario like his defense.

And like the Kings, I don’t know what to do with him.

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August 4, 2021 11:40 am
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You’re a dumbass. And I wish I could say that with amusement. But I can’t!

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August 4, 2021 11:51 am
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Good thing I am a smarthead!

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August 4, 2021 12:34 pm
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So you’re the nothingness from ‘A Neverending Story?!?!?!?!?’ You killed Atreyu you bastard!!!!

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August 4, 2021 12:49 pm
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August 4, 2021 3:28 pm
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. . . And beginning to lose faith already.

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August 4, 2021 3:51 pm
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It was so good too!

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August 4, 2021 3:28 pm
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Confirms the smartheadedness of 1951.

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August 4, 2021 11:16 am

Lock down young talent on good contracts whenever possible. To paraphrase our man Brown, “this is not bad whatsoever.”

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August 4, 2021 11:24 am
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Egg is gonna be on your face when its announced he got the full MLE for 2 years ; )

I liked Davis’s game though. Feels like room to grow a bit too.

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August 4, 2021 11:35 am
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He has what I’ve been calling, for lack of a better word, a real glide to his game that makes him stand out, even among elite athletes. He definitely played well in heavy minutes last season, and seems to have the kind of defensive instincts that could make him a real pest on that end.

I honestly thought that he was around 6’6″, though, but he seems to manage.

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August 4, 2021 11:37 am
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He got junk in his trunk doe…..

It’s a Mississippi thing. You wouldn’t understand.

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August 4, 2021 12:02 pm
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I most definitely would not. All of my trunk-related business is Gem City-derived.

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August 4, 2021 12:18 pm
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That sounds very complicated. Gem City trunk business must have 75 problems but Terence Davis is assuredly not one.

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August 4, 2021 12:50 pm
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I’ve found that the considerable junk/trunk business in the area has been very much the benefit, rather than a problem.

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August 4, 2021 12:54 pm
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I would suspect that depends on where the business is being conducted. Also, by whom.

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August 4, 2021 6:00 pm
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Junk in his trunk? Umm…sir that means a woman has a nice rotund butt.

Am I missing something here?

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August 4, 2021 6:34 pm
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Am I missing something here?

Can’t speak for Sims, although I’m fairly sure this applies to him also, but I was being a smartass.

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All good bro

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August 4, 2021 11:35 am
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Technically he can be resigned using his EBRs. No need to use the MLE. I’m interested to see the total dollar amount. Spidey sense tells me it’s likely to be in the 6-8 million range which makes this deal very palatable.

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August 4, 2021 1:00 pm
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4 million AAV? Totally cool with that.

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August 4, 2021 1:00 pm
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Yeah I was just joking around with the total dollar package, goin KANGZ. Looks like they got him at very reasonable rate, which I think we mostly expected.

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August 4, 2021 1:46 pm
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reported 2 years at 8 million.

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August 4, 2021 6:36 pm
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When I said 6-8 million, I meant total dollars.

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August 4, 2021 7:02 pm
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This is good

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August 4, 2021 12:10 pm

That was a duck not a nod.

Not that Woj wouldn’t call it a “possible affirmation from high level source” of and, of course, “possible” is silent.

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August 4, 2021 11:34 am

Meh. Not a fan of Davis’ game. Don’t think he does much to impact winning: very streaky high-volume shooter who makes Marvin look like a good passer. On the defensive end he’s active, but doesn’t move the needle for us. That, combined with his off-court problems, don’t make me very excited about this. I do understand it though, he’s still young and could potentially still develop in more, but just not my cup of tea.

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August 4, 2021 11:45 am

Dutch Kings fans are the best, no matter where they are.

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August 4, 2021 12:03 pm
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This is a no-smoking site.

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Your reaction got more likes than there are Dutch Kings fans

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August 4, 2021 1:55 pm

He’s a good option for a 5th guard. Kinda okay for a 4th. Bad for a 3rd. We’ll see where he ends up on the depth chart once the dust settles.

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August 4, 2021 2:21 pm

I think he has 3rd G upside, personally.

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August 4, 2021 2:30 pm
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I wouldn’t argue with you. But I would say that upside is going to take a decent amount of development to reach.

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August 4, 2021 3:29 pm

Yeah, that I would agree with.

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August 4, 2021 5:11 pm

A lot of stuff there and likely comes down to the of the court stuff if you were being honest.

Pretty hard to argue it’s great value for the kid

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August 4, 2021 6:02 pm

Dammit where are the downvotes!

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August 4, 2021 11:43 am

I don’t care about the signing, but where did my downvote button go? I like to randomly downvote comments just to get comments about down voting. <tongue firmly in cheek>

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August 4, 2021 11:58 am

Welp, there goes the moral high ground.

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August 4, 2021 12:03 pm
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Because we had so much of that type of real estate after hiring Luke Walton.

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August 4, 2021 12:04 pm
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Collect the entire set!

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August 4, 2021 12:19 pm
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There’s alternate universes with Luke Walton in it……..giggity.

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August 4, 2021 1:10 pm
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Should we collect them at Folsom, or San Quentin?

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August 4, 2021 3:06 pm
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Collect the entire set!

Vlade really tried.

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August 4, 2021 12:04 pm

Wish they would have kept Wright instead, but here we are. I suppose the fact that one was signed and the other wasn’t had an influence here.

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August 4, 2021 12:27 pm
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TD and TT on the same team has some real knucklehead vibes to it.

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August 4, 2021 12:56 pm
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Recreating the Bad Boys minus the talent.

Or the Jail Blazers minus the talent.

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August 4, 2021 12:48 pm
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And yet if they had signed Wright I am sure you would have wished they signed Davis. One of these days surprise us and say something positive.

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August 4, 2021 12:56 pm
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36 years as a Kangz fan. I just don’t know what could have ever made Carl so “negative.”

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August 4, 2021 12:58 pm
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Probably the gopher.

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August 4, 2021 1:47 pm
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Quiet kid. Kept to himself, mostly.comment image

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TD in dark shirt guarding Curry?

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August 4, 2021 2:25 pm
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I do get that, especially since I’m a fairly-reliable pessimist.

Still, if sports fandom is about anything, it’s about hope. I may not expect great things to happen as a result of any particular transaction, but if I’m 100% convinced that any circumstance will result in negative outcome, what’s the point? If you’ve lost hope to that degree, maintaining the relationship is simply self-abuse, and not the fun kind.

Aside from hope, there is currently very little else to sustain a rooting interest in the Sacramento Kings.

Q: Why are you banging your head against that brick wall?
A: Because it feels so good when I stop.

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August 4, 2021 3:21 pm
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I have some concerns here –

Fandom is what each fan wishes it to be. Whose business is it how a person determines to fan? Certainly not ours. Let each fan fan how they want to fan. What in the world is wrong with a Kings fan that is not happy with this team? What in the world is wrong with a Kings fan not liking this signing? It’s an opinion, and anyone that follows this team should have the right to express it without being subject to personal attacks. X36 years for Carl.

Any deep dive into Carl’s comments quickly bely the notion that he is always negative. But that is beside the point, as if he wanted to be negative all of the time, it would be his right. As a fan.

Who gets to draw the lines that separate optimism, pessimism, and realism? You? Me? I think that this team is a 10-12 seed this season, shattering the all-time record for playoff futility. Does that make me an optimist, a pessimist or a realist, and who gets to make that call? Add to that that I hope that I’m wrong and I hope that this team obliterates my expectations. Me wrong / 8 seed > me right / lottery pick. Does that adjust the scale, and who gets to make that call?

Is someone that constantly comes on a blog and spends his/her time not talking about the team but instead attacks fellow members for not having an agreeable or popular opinion exercising their sports fandom, or is he/she just being a douche? Are they exhibiting hope? Or is it just a cloaked brand of negativity? This is the major disconnect for me. Carl has an opinion here, and a fellow member determines to launch a personal attack rather than provide his/her opinion on the subject matter. Is that fandom, but Carl’s comment is out of bounds?

For me, the “hope” would be that fellow fans could discuss this team, agree or disagree passionately, while keeping their internet dicks holstered and having some modicum of respect for the fellow member’s right to the opinion.

Over the final years of StR, I tried to stay away from this conversation. I responded to opinions on the team, but I just flagged personal attacks and moved on. I need to self-recalibrate and get back to this. Because for me, coming here and discussing the team is something that I like to do, and I usually learn something new. I learn nothing from those that seek to launch personal attacks on fellow Kings fans, and it winds up being a huge waste of my time (as well as the others that have to read through threads of this type).

Off soapbox / recalibrated / back to the Kings.

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August 4, 2021 4:15 pm
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My response to you wasn’t about suggesting proper ways to be a fan, but (in a very roundabout manner) posed the question: If you have no expectation or hope for any particular move or transaction to have a positive outcome, why continue the association?

Carl is certainly eloquent enough to help me understand, should he feel like bothering, and there wouldn’t be any hard feelings if he doesn’t. He owes me no explanation, nor does anyone else. I didn’t actually ask for one. If you see such open queries as personal attacks, then you have misinterpreted my intent.

If this is simply a new flavor of being a fan of a franchise, then I will confess to my ignorance about it. I do feel that it is important to point out that my post was two layers removed from Carl’s in that thread, and was neither specific to him, a direct response to him, nor did it mention him. It hardly rises to the level of a personal attack.

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August 4, 2021 4:20 pm
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Yours was not the attack.

If you have no expectation or hope for any particular move or transaction to have a positive outcome, why continue the association?

Why does it matter? If that is how someone elects to follow this team until such time that the team can give said fan reason for hope, why does it matter?

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August 4, 2021 4:51 pm
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TKH is forcing us to not be negative.

I mean, they took away the downvote button for crissakes!!!

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August 4, 2021 5:02 pm
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Not if you stand on your head while you’re on the site.

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August 4, 2021 5:08 pm
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So when we see the next Kings Herald headline that says “The Kings have started the season 1-8,” it will turn into an 8-1 start!

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August 4, 2021 5:11 pm
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And the 9th pick is really the 6th pick. And Walton having his option picked up is a pink slip. And so on.

And when the blood rushes to your head, the thumb button looks red!

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August 4, 2021 4:48 pm
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Not sure if that’s aimed at me, but I’m not going to feel real bad about what a guy who spends his time weirdly psychoanalyzing strangers on the Internet thinks.
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August 4, 2021 3:25 pm
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Not sure why your boxers are in such a wedge, but Imma get my fill of negativity while we’re on the subject. I also don’t like Ouzo, mom jeans, Judge Smails, crabgrass, gophers, sauerkraut, the Lakers, Chevy Chase, the Maloofs, truck nuts, corn nuts or grape nuts.

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Presented for this evening’s coming night terrors:comment image

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Grape Nuts! It’s made of gravel!

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August 4, 2021 3:34 pm
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The broken molar tells you it’s good for you!

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Why does how he grab that box of grape nuts really bother me.

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August 5, 2021 8:20 am
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Euell Gibbons. His coin phrase was “Ever eat a pine cone? Many parts are edible.” You watch this gif and you could just as easily envision him saying, “Ever lock a co-ed in your basement? Many parts are edible.”

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August 4, 2021 4:57 pm
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Carl, I’m pretty sure mom jeans are in (as in the young kids are wearing them now).

I hate them, too. But where do you stand on short-shorts?

I had a huge argument(s) with my wife. She is adamant that I don’t wear them. I pull up Tyrese Haliburton’s instagram account, point to a photo of him wearing short shorts while embracing his beautiful girlfriend and I proclaim:

“THIS GUY CAME IN THIRD IN ROY VOTING!”

Then she says: “But you’re not young like him.” Or some other silly excuse.

She says most men my age still wear long shorts that hover around their knees.

And I rebut:

“COWARDS!”

Anyway, it’s a proportions/aesthetic thing. I think shorts that basically cut your legs into two equal halves just looks awful. I’d rather wear high-waters that are three-fourths covering, or short-shorts that are one-fourth covering. It just looks better, design-wise.

TRY AND DOWNVOTE ME, COWARDS! HAHAHAHA

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ID confirmed:comment image

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August 4, 2021 5:07 pm
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I hate them, too. But where do you stand on short-shorts?

I do believe I am on record as being anti truck nuts. 😉
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August 4, 2021 5:12 pm
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I can see your meatballs.
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August 4, 2021 5:14 pm
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Oof – I don’t know about truck nuts, but Carl’s meatballs have been outed.

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August 4, 2021 6:04 pm
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Touche! I have no choice but to support you. Figuratively.

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response fail

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August 4, 2021 8:56 pm
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I was on board all the up until you said Chevy Chase.

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August 5, 2021 12:07 am

I think it’s because Bill Murray and Chevy Chase don’t like each other. Or at least they didn’t like each other at one time.

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August 4, 2021 1:52 pm
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agree-would rather have Wright. But, from what I have heard, the Wright deal is not finalized and teams are lookin to make it “bigger”. Celts got Dunn but due to delay lost out on using trade exception to pay for him It expired. I think the haste for this trade came about by their desire to use trade exception coupled with Kings fear that Holmes was gone But all that changed. Kings for sure and probably Celts would like to re-do this. Hawks are happy.
“Bigger” might mean more players or more teams. More players might mean Reddish for Kings and more teams might mean TT goes elsewhere.

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August 4, 2021 3:32 pm
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Yeah, hoping they can move Wright for something else. I could see it being a panic move, but am not convinced it was. It could be that they legit think Thompson can help this team, which seems a little dubious, but that’s why they put me in charge of grass.

I’m hoping with both Holmes and Len in the fold, they see the benefit of moving Thompson somewhere else, or possibly getting some second round picks included and buy him out. Carmichael Dave said when the deal closed that he wasn’t convinced Thompson would ever play here, so he may know something we don’t.

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August 4, 2021 3:54 pm
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In thinking of reasons why the Kings would trade for Thompson I thought that it’s possible that a contender would rather have him as a back up big than Bagley. Since the Kings are not a contender my hope was that it’s part of a bigger move. The delay has given fuel to that hope and that makes me uneasy, which kind of evens things out.

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August 4, 2021 1:11 pm

2/8! Not bad, Monte. Great drafts, great contracts. Now please close on a great trade! And maybe dump that Luke guy soon, too.

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August 4, 2021 1:30 pm

Just guessing based on the offseason so far:

Fox Mitchell Guy
Hali Davis James
Buddy Harkless Woodard
Barnes Bagley Thompson
Holmes Len Metu

Two ways: Queta, Ramsey

You can probably argue different lineups depending on how you play Buddy/Barnes/Bagley. Personally, I think Barnes is a core piece, his value is maximized as a versatile stretch-4, and that Bagley should be on the bench since he hasn’t proven he deserves to start. Buddy has proved he can work as a starter in a 3 guard lineup and he doesn’t want to play off the bench (though that’s probably a better spot for him) and he’s better than everyone of Davis, James, Harkless, Woodard, Bagley and Thompson. This team may be able to make the 8-10 seed, but nothing more. But I guess that was the goal all along. A bit disappointing, but I suppose we’re one Buddy+Bagley trade away from things really starting to make sense.

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August 4, 2021 1:39 pm
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Pretty sure Guy is gone. I also think there is one more semi impactful player coming with the MLE. Seems like the team is at the cap.

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August 4, 2021 1:52 pm
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Who’s left that’s worth the MLE at an area of need? Might be better to save than possibly tie it up for a couple years on someone not worth that. Guess it could be a one year or split up as part of MLE.

Dunno, maybe there is someone I’m missing.

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August 4, 2021 4:11 pm
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Josh Hart or Kelly Oubre?

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August 4, 2021 4:49 pm
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Why resign Harkless if you’re going to sign Oubre?

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August 4, 2021 4:51 pm
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Not a huge fan of Harkless at this point, but I’d take him over Oubre, assuming Oubre would be getting a lot more money.

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August 4, 2021 4:59 pm
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Mo’harkless mo problemz
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August 4, 2021 5:31 pm
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Without a trade component, the Kings are one of five remaining teams with MLE ($9.5m) in space. Charlotte has $13.5m (pending the signing of Ish Smith), and Chi, Cle, Sac & Tor have their full MLEs. It will be interesting to see if (again, sans trades that free up space), Oubre is willing to sign more than a one year MLE.

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August 4, 2021 5:33 pm
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A four year MLE would total roughly $41m.

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August 4, 2021 5:35 pm
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Check that – I’m missing a lot of teams that I’m not sure of. Never mind.

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August 4, 2021 5:38 pm
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Add Hou and Min for an MLE and NO (maybe $13.5m for NO).

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August 4, 2021 4:52 pm
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Depth at the wing?

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August 4, 2021 1:47 pm
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Ramsey is on a full contract, Lou King is our current two way. What about Damien Jones?

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August 4, 2021 2:01 pm
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Guy is gone I believe and on the duds Vegas summer league roster.
Jones- team option.
Ramsey under contract. King on 2 way.
TT is wasteful and redundant now
still have MLE at 4/41
Buddy now at 4th guard spot. He won’t be happy HERE. Hmmmm….
is it too early season wise or too late this season wise to go big game hunting? Siakem moves the needle. and I think Simmonds is too pricey and too flawed. He has an abundance of skill but can’t shoot- that’s important in this sport.

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August 4, 2021 3:24 pm
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I saw that there could be a possible Buddy for Oubre Jr sign and trade. Of all the forwards we could go after, Oubre isn’t the most talented but he would fit quite snugly as the starting 3 in this lineup.

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August 4, 2021 4:52 pm
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I’ve never been convinced that Oubre is very good. I put him in the same basket with Kuzma. Am I wrong? Are we just stuck with lowish value players due to lack of assets?

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August 4, 2021 5:28 pm
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I think that’s a fair comp. Same age, comparable numbers, both inconsistent, neither are great shooters, nor have lived up to some of the expectations. Not sure who I’d rather have. Oubre had a really nice stretch last season after he dropped that-40 pointer. I don’t think we’ve ever seen Kuzma put together a long stretch of consistent play. On the other hand Kuzma is a slightly better shooter.

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August 5, 2021 4:38 am
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Long story short yes until the culture is changed which could come with a transcendent star in the draft. I’d also put fox on the table for Simmons.

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August 4, 2021 4:27 pm
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Guy is a UFA
Jones, James, Metu are all partial guarantees.
Ramsey and Woodard are both regular full guarantees.

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August 5, 2021 4:35 am
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i Really think that if one views Barnes as a core piece that is a fast track way to be in the worst pot you can be in the nba. To good to get a high lottery pick outside luck and to bad to be any real team. Death nail of an nba team is being a team continuously picking between 10-13 with no hope of really improving. It’s rough we are in pretty much the same spot as the DMC teams just it looks much different. I just don’t see the point for striving to be the magic of the last few years.

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August 4, 2021 1:45 pm

I thought he played well and works as an instant offense kind of buy, but his domestic issues make me really queasy

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August 4, 2021 1:56 pm

This site isn’t nearly as fun without the downvote.

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August 4, 2021 1:59 pm
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August 4, 2021 2:54 pm
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Somewhat agree. Thought the thumbs was a nice thought in design. We aren’t having a live conversation in real time, so it’s pretty hard to gauge where your views or others stand amongst the rest of the community without it.

And if I didn’t care about what other Kings fans thought and discussed (agree and disagree), I wouldn’t be here. Not that I am going anywhere, but does feel like the thread participation may get less. Dunno, maybe it will come back and this was just a time out of sorts.

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August 4, 2021 3:40 pm
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Maybe we can bring it back, but say cap the number of daily downvotes at maybe 5? That shouldn’t affect majority of users but prevent the trolls from downvoting everything.

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August 4, 2021 4:20 pm
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I feel like if someone wants to waste their own time on such activities, let them have at it. It’s probably taking their malevolent focus away from something where actual harm might be done.

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August 4, 2021 3:50 pm

Guru called me a dumbass, so can someone tell me if this is good?

https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey/status/1423020551920971779

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August 4, 2021 4:13 pm
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I can’t disagree with it. I mean, the Kings basically are replacing Wright with Mitchell and Whitside with TT. Other than that it’s same shit different day.

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August 4, 2021 4:17 pm
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I’m curious as to how they are coming up with the number. Is Holmes part of the equation? Joseph, Wright and Whiteside were 7th, 8th and 11th on the team in minutes last year, respecitively. I don’t understand how taking them out of the equation and plugging Len/TT and Mitchell into it has such an adverse impact on the number, unless Wright to Mitchell is projected difference of -4 (which could very well be the projection).

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August 4, 2021 4:19 pm
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Maybe because Mitchell is an unknown while Wright is not?

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August 4, 2021 4:21 pm
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I don’t think it’s draft assets, just roster changes via trade/FA.

Players kept aren’t part of the equation because you wouldn’t put Holmes as both lost and added.

it’s limited to just changes of non-rookie NBA players.

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August 4, 2021 4:25 pm
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So Wright and Joseph are losses with no replacement at this point. I don’t think that this translates very well, and I like BasketballReference.

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August 4, 2021 5:15 pm
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Joseph is not relevant as it is only transactions for this off season.

Basically, all it says is that among non-draft roster changes that the Kings are losing the most impactful player of the bunch, Delon Wright. Adding only TT and Len (so far) is a negative asset exchange for Wright (and Whiteside).

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August 4, 2021 5:06 pm
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You are a dumbass. You posting an Andy Bailey tweet on this stuff doesn’t change that. You’re still a dumbass.

VORP only exists for NBA players, so right there Davion Mitchell isn’t included. It also assumes the Kings keep Tristan Thompson.

I really don’t understand what the purpose of this list serves, quite frankly.

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August 4, 2021 5:10 pm
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You love me and you know it!

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August 4, 2021 6:14 pm
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It is presumptuous, and frankly, all jokes aside, beneath you.

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August 4, 2021 4:19 pm

Defensive-minded Davis has a high ceiling. Good size and a good rebounder. Excellent signing.

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August 4, 2021 5:03 pm

Great get with his upside at $4mil per

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August 4, 2021 10:03 pm

$4M/yr for a backup SG who averages 11ppg. That’s pretty good value. Hope he gets past his previous issues and doesn’t repeat them. I like his hustle and toughness.

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August 4, 2021 11:26 pm

Not bad production for the cost at all. The kings are gonna need some microwave scorers around Davion (who I’ve liked in the little action we’ve seen).

fair price and good insurance if Buddy gets traded.

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Please, for the love of god, bring back the down vote button!

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