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Spurs 113, Kings 104: Sacramento Falls Short in the Fourth

The Kings gave a solid effort but couldn't execute in the fourth quarter, suffering a big blow to their play-in hopes.
By | 134 Comments | May 7, 2021

© Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports

The Sacramento Kings needed to beat the San Antonio Spurs to have a real path to a play-in game appearance. This was a must-win game if ever there was one this season. No wasting time, let’s see how it went.

Outcome: Kings lose, 113-104

Sacramento Kings: 104 PTS, 49.4% FG, 40.6% 3 PT, 60.0% FT, 27 AST, 16 TO

San Antonio Spurs: 113 PTS, 51.7% FG, 18.2% 3 PT, 89.5% FT, 21 AST, 13 TO

The Kings played a hard fought game, but fell short. After a neck-and-neck contest, the Spurs turned it on late and looked like the better team.

The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
THE GOOD:
  1. The Kings played with heart. I’m not here for moral victories, but tonight the Kings played like a team you’re proud to be a fan of. They played hard, never got discouraged despite regularly trailing the Spurs, and the players never gave up. The Kings have had a lot of lackluster games this season, but this wasn’t one of them. I love the energy, heart, and hustle that the Kings played with tonight.
  2. Five Kings scored in double figures tonight, and it really felt like team basketball.
THE BAD:
  1. Sloppy Execution. The Kings kept it close throughout the night, but the game felt scrappy and sloppy from the start. The Kings played with frenetic pace and often times executed poor execution. At the end of each quarter I found myself wondering how the Kings has kept it so close.
  2. Marvin Bagley was a no-show, finishing with just 4 points, 2 rebounds, and 1 assist in 19 minutes of play.
THE UGLY:
  1. The 4th quarter. The Kings led by 3 to start the fourth but let the Spurs jump out to a big fourth quarter lead where the Spurs looked absolutely dominant. The Kings trailed by 11 before charging back to make it a close game at the end, only to allow another big run by the Spurs.
The King of Kings

Terence Davis gets the nod, finishing with 24 points, 3 steals, 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Davis came up big several times when the Kings needed a bucket.

Honorable mention to Buddy Hield’s 17 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, and 2 steals.

Up Next

Oklahoma City Thunder at Sacramento, 7 PM PT.

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ajon_es
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May 7, 2021 9:38 pm

The gif with Lucy and the football

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May 7, 2021 9:40 pm
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May 7, 2021 9:39 pm

Big showdown with the Spurs tonight…

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…and the Kings couldn’t execute!

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May 7, 2021 10:10 pm
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Live shot of Walton in the 4th quarter.

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May 7, 2021 9:39 pm

Five more games! Put your condo on the market Luke! Pack your bags!

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May 8, 2021 12:05 am

Unfortunately, it’s only because he’s moving into a house in Granite Bay.

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May 7, 2021 9:41 pm

Bagley will put up big numbers against the OKC G league tank squad ! Whatever !

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May 7, 2021 9:43 pm

Can’t say I’m surprised. Did my best not to get my hopes up for any shred of meaning and I guess that was the right call.

What else to say but Kangz?

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May 7, 2021 9:57 pm
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My best attempt to not get my hopes up was to not watch the last few games.

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May 7, 2021 9:44 pm

I’m glad actually.

Pre-Covid we would’ve been mathematically eliminated 5 games ago. The 10th seed playin is just a gimmick that lowers Vivek’s bar of success.

Also, Marvin Bagley is just our annual Ray McCallum and Skal Labissiere at the end of the season. Sure was embarrassing to see all that stock bought in him.

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May 7, 2021 9:45 pm

Marvin’s significantly better than both of those players.

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May 7, 2021 9:50 pm
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…at times.

Consistency deprives Marvin at anything other than just marginally average.

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May 8, 2021 12:07 am
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Thankfully, considering he was a #2 pick in the draft.

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May 7, 2021 9:46 pm

I never thought of that, there are some similarities between Skal and Bagley and how we King’s fans viewed them and their potential. Can probably throw Giles in there as well. I guess that means Bagley ends up in Portland and completely flames out lol.

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May 7, 2021 9:58 pm
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I think Bagley will stick in the league as a backup big, especially for a team that needs another bench scorer.

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May 7, 2021 10:32 pm
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This is is floor.

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May 7, 2021 10:41 pm
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I also think it’s a ceiling because he can’t figure out moving parts and having 4 teammates, it’s just too much for him to handle.

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May 8, 2021 11:52 am
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This is silly.

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May 8, 2021 7:17 am
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As a veteran fan, you should already know what’s gonna happen. Lol

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May 7, 2021 9:44 pm

Can’t help but laugh at the naive King’s fans that thought a play-in spot was possible. Any veteran King’s fan who’s been a fan the last 15 plus years knew better.

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May 7, 2021 9:49 pm
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I won’t Begrudge anyone for acting on their fandom and having hope for the little window and of us get to have about this team .

Also I have to ask

Any veteran King’s fan

How many new king’s fans are there? At this point anyone under 15 hasn’t been alive for a kings winning season. Anyone under 22 would have trouble remembering a playoff team in Sac if they could.

Are there anything other than Veteran King’s fans at this point?

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May 7, 2021 9:57 pm
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Solid point. I can’t imagine there is any kind of growing fanbase for this team. My guess is the fanbase is made up of original fans from the 80’s, the Richmond playoff few, Glory Era bunches, and some scattering local interests from the past 15 years. Other than that, I’d guess there are no new fans of this team over the past 10 years.

Reminds me of a friend of mine who loved Saab cars about a decade ago. He also had a roommate who was a rep for Saturn cars. He had a door panel in has house to “prove” their undentable doors. I wonder what has become of him.

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May 7, 2021 10:00 pm
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Also to undermine my own point I myself am a “new fan” Became one in 2015 despite not living in SAC and not having any relatives that were kings fans either.

I assume I am unique

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May 7, 2021 10:03 pm
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Why oh why did you ever join this fold? I welcome you, but have to ask how this came to be.

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May 7, 2021 10:35 pm
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It was be a bandwagoner warriors fan, choose the city where I was born, or join everyone in a 500M radius that’s also blazer fan

I still root for the warriors and blazers too but kings are #1 to me still. At the time I don’t think I fully realized what I had signed up for

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May 7, 2021 10:37 pm
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Also to undermine my own point I myself am a €œnew fan€ Became one in 2015 despite not living in SAC and not having any relatives that were kings fans either.

LOL, who does that?

Oh, wait…

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May 7, 2021 11:41 pm
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it’s a bit like getting off at what’s definitely the wrong bus stop and for the first couple of years complaining about how hot hell is lol

guess I’m not the only one to do that

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May 8, 2021 8:24 am
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Welcome aboard this boat. It’s somehow continually sinking yet always sailing€¦

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May 8, 2021 4:21 pm
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Thats why that can’t trade Buddy Buckets

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May 7, 2021 10:35 pm
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I could be totally wrong (and have no evidence to back it up) but I that there is a new breed of fans who are more focused on individual (star) players and fantasy league results than on an actual team. They are happy to come to G1C and enjoy a game experience and root for De’Aaron scoring 53 fantasy points and shrug off losses much easier than us old skoolers.

And power to them. Sounds less stressful, to me.

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May 8, 2021 12:16 am
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I played fantasy leagues for a few years, but stopped because I’d find myself rooting against my teams because I had a fantasy player on the other team. I was disjointed and all over the place.

Not like now.

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May 8, 2021 2:05 am
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I think we had Artest, Bibby, Martin, Bonny Wells. That’s all I can think of off the top of my head

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May 8, 2021 2:01 am
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what is the point of being a fan of a team if you deprive yourself of hope? It doesn’t make someone dumb for understanding the odds are against you, but still hoping you can beat the odds.

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May 8, 2021 7:15 am
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How are you a Kings fan laughing… You know nothing.

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May 7, 2021 9:45 pm

The Good: “Rordog After Dark” in the game thread.

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May 7, 2021 10:12 pm
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Dammit. I’m just going to assume he’s in the bath every time he’s commenting on TKH.

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May 8, 2021 2:17 am
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Me watching the big game:
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May 8, 2021 2:19 am
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Go to sleep you heathen.

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May 8, 2021 2:22 am
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LOL I did! I call this €œsecond Friday.€ It’s when I pass out at 9, then wake up at 2 and enjoy the solitude. But I am going to the A’s game tomorrow so I should probably hit the hay.

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May 8, 2021 2:36 am
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Lucky bastard. I wish I could have slept 5 hours.

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May 7, 2021 9:46 pm

We are at this time of the season again where we are celebrating effort again?

Most of the players have fresh legs and are fighting for their next contract. of course they work hard.

Effort should be there every game. Wasn’t there for long stretches of this season. We lost the season during those stretches, not tonight.

And then you have to wonder about people saying that Fox works so hard on offense, so it’s okay that he takes plays off on D. We’re not good enough to have our star players only play at one end of the court.

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May 7, 2021 9:48 pm
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Definitely. I’d like to sort out who is good in a dog fight and who is not.

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May 8, 2021 12:16 am
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It’s the dog that can hold a knife. Doy.

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May 7, 2021 9:47 pm

I didn’t get to watch the game. Celebrated my mom’s birthday instead.

I predicted the Spurs to win.

Glad to know the Kings are still consistently inconsistent.

Is there a major school (Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, etc) prospect projected around #12? Just want to get my ducks in a row on who to be disappointed with in the draft.

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May 7, 2021 10:03 pm
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We may have gotten rid of Cory, but we’re about to draft Corey.

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May 7, 2021 10:03 pm
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Jalen Johnson it is.

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May 7, 2021 10:12 pm
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Being in the 8 to 12 range is not bad. There’s a pretty big drop off after the top 2or 3 players. Like pick #5 is the same tier as at least #12.

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May 7, 2021 10:24 pm
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This is a nice way to talk ourselfes into it, but picking low is not an advantage or even okay.

There will be players in that 3-12 range who will end up busts, and those who will end up as good contributors.

The higher you pick, the more you control your faith in picking one of the contributors. Otherwise you just end up hoping that the next Tyrese will fall in your lap. That’s solely depending on luck.

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May 7, 2021 10:32 pm
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Your right…it’s definitely not an advantage and I’d rather pick 7 than 12, but over the last decade of drafts there just isn’t a lot of difference between all stars selected or win shares earned between 5-9 and 10-14.

So as a league and multiple different franchises…not just the kings, it typically is just a crap shoot in those ranges. Kings have obviously been worse than others even in that crapshoot. Each draft is unique but this one feels very shrug my shoulders between drafting 7 or 12.

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May 7, 2021 10:34 pm
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Higher picks are worth more. You want a superstar via trade? Might need that #5 pick.

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May 7, 2021 10:35 pm
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Probably fair if you are looking to trade it.

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May 7, 2021 10:43 pm
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Look at it this way..

A #2 pick could be worth twice as much as a #10 pick.

But what do we need with assets? Pffft. Silly me.

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May 7, 2021 11:01 pm
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Hmmm…no where did I make a suggestion that there wasn’t a difference between drafting in the Top 4 and late lottery. I wouldn’t suggest that drafting Top 4 isn’t a clear advantage over drafting say 11th. Original poster talked about a range of 3-12 being similar.

I clearly stated I didn’t think that historically there is a ton of difference between drafting 5-9 and 10-14. Which is typically where the Kings flounder and have historically come up empty on the crapshoot.

Some of that is for sure on the organization and some is just on the nature of those tiers of players and doing more projecting than you would in the top 4.

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May 8, 2021 2:41 am
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Sometimes you have the #3 pick and #14 pick and end up with Jonathan Simmons.

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May 7, 2021 11:10 pm
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How many superstars are traded (Like draft night or around there) once the pick is already identified and not as a future first or likely multiple future firsts?

Last 20 years or so, I’m struggling to think of any where a bonafide star was traded for a package that included that years pick and the pick was 4-5 or lower? Ray Allen (I think) is about only one off top of my head.

Yes it would be a good asset, just not sure those types of trades happen that often. Doesn’t mean it couldn’t.

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May 7, 2021 11:18 pm
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All this is to say, yes I would like to draft earlier…but I’ve come more to the realization that in my mind, not a ton of difference usually in that 5-14 range. Good teams/front offices identify talent more often than poor ones.

Monte has had one shot at the apple so far and is 1 for 1 in that range. Who the hell knows…my tankathon addiction is less than it used to be…but it’s still healthy : )

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May 8, 2021 10:42 am
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But you are missing the point: even if your GM is good at identifyiong talent, the later he picks, the lower the chance that his top choices are available.

Every GM has a draft board; let’s say last year Monte had Tyrese at #4. That means he had to count on all 11 other GM’s to misss on him. And even more so, if another GM had picked Tyrese, it could be very well that of the 11 players picked in front of the Kings, the complete top 9 from Monte’s board was picked. And then he would have taken the 10th best off his board.

The mere fact that some good players get taken later and high picks fail does not – in any shape or form – make later lottery picks as good as or almost as good as higher lottery picks. There is lots of data showing that the higher you pick the better your chances of drafting a rotation player or better. The exceptions are just that, exceptions, and are heavily dependent on luck.

So there is a significant difference between pick 5-14. To be blunt, it is not even debatable.

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May 8, 2021 12:55 pm
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To be blunt..it certainly is debatable. Yes you would rather pick earlier than later in that range so you don’t have to depend on other GM’s missing. No one is debating that.

I’m just saying that I’m done with being up in arms over whether the Kings get the 7th pick or the 12th pick. I don’t have the exact combined win share numbers in front right now, (used to have it) but when I went back and looked at the last 10 drafts and compared the players selected 5-9 and 10-14 the difference in All Stars and combined win shares was negligible. Range 5-9 had 5 All Stars and range 10-14 had 6 All Stars.

I had down as 2010,11,12 and 2016 had better overall players in the 5-9 range. 2013,14,15,17,18 had better players 10-14. That’s subjective, but most people would probably come out to a somewhat similar conclusion.

Yes if I am a good GM I’d rather pick at 5-6 than 12-13. But history suggests that lots of league execs miss as often as the hit in this range and you are nearly as likely to get a decent player at 12 as 7. This isn’t a Hali one off type take…it’s pretty consistent in this era of most of the top draft picks being one and dones, that the projecting of players in this range of 5-14 is mostly crap shoot. Maybe sometimes picks 10-14 turn out better because there is less projection…more 2-3 year players taken in this area frequently, so less chance at busts. I dunno, but your odds of getting a rotation player are pretty similar.

Now if you want to argue the Kings should be getting closer to 6-7 record vs 12 for pure probability odds to move up into top 4 , then by all means I agree with you. Tank the hell out of it down the stretch once you are eliminated. But assuming the lottery gods don’t smile on the Kings for a 3rd recent time, I’m just kind of at a “doesn’t really matter” mode between drafting 7 or 12.

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May 7, 2021 10:37 pm
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Sometimes yes, but generally it’s a cheaper contract within the same tier. I suppose if a front office is absolutely convinced in a player, then it would be nice to grab him early, but most of these guys are still wearing diapers.

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May 7, 2021 10:49 pm
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but most of these guys are still wearing diapers.

I also have my doubts about this FO, but this is taking it too far, IMO.

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May 7, 2021 11:16 pm
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I see what you did there.

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May 7, 2021 9:56 pm

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May 8, 2021 12:02 am
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With everyone injured, Marvin needs to be dropping at least 20/10 every night right now. That should be easy for him. Instead, he’s back to his old inconsistent ways.

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May 8, 2021 12:19 am
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In all of my years, I don’t think that I ever heard an NBA player, Hall of Famer or not, say that it was easy to average 20/10.

“But he was the #2 pick!”

Yes, dear. I know.

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May 8, 2021 8:07 am
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This is Marvin’s best opportunity in his entire nba career to be the alpha on a team…he needs to show it every night right now. He won’t have many more games where fox or Barnes or Tyrese aren’t taking away his touches.

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May 8, 2021 2:53 am
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I hereby declare we should start using Points and (BLK + AST + REB + STL) when referring to Bagley’s stats. So tonight he had 4 points and 3 BARS. 15 BARS should be the general benchmark if he had a productive game.

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May 8, 2021 3:01 am
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It looks like he’s only hit the 15 BARS threshold 3 times this season which is kinda insane. Delon Wright basically hits that every game.

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May 8, 2021 8:04 am
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Sign me up!

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May 8, 2021 8:07 am
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Don’t you have to deduct TO’s as well?

Also, let’s set it at 12, because Kings fans are used to lowering the bar.

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May 8, 2021 9:42 am
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that would be unfair. I really just hate using points and rebounds when discussing Bagley’s game. He’d probably be much more valuable if he could average 10/5/3/1.5/1.5 than if he averaged 20 and 10, and his current BATS

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That’s why The Limbo was banned in Sacramento back in 2012.

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May 8, 2021 9:33 am
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Is this a stat for Bagley or Ty Lawson? I hear he was big on bars.

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May 8, 2021 12:16 am
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Impossible! I was told by local media after the last game that he was untradeable.

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May 7, 2021 10:00 pm

Kings distance themselves from the lottery pick while pursuing instant defeat in a meaningless play in tournament.

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May 7, 2021 10:06 pm

To be honest, I started rooting for the Kings to win during the game.

I know that’s not helpful for Tankathon ping pong balls, but I got caught up in the moment and just started rooting for the purple guys….crazy wild Buddy 3-point attempts and all.

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May 8, 2021 8:29 am
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I did too. We’ve already blown the race for the ping pong balls.

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May 7, 2021 10:15 pm

I didn’t get a chance to watch. Bagley’s minutes were pretty lean. Anyone know why? Was he just bad? Injured?

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May 7, 2021 10:30 pm
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It’s odd.

18 minutes. He didn’t play well but it’s not like Metu was keeping him on the bench or something since Metu went 1-5 in 12 minutes.

Trade Bagley ASAP at the draft if this is where it’s going .

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May 8, 2021 12:21 am
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Sell low guys are the smartest guys.

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May 8, 2021 9:43 am
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yeah, that’s not what I am saying.

my point is that there is no point in keeping him if you aren’t even going to give him minutes at this point in the season and in a game like this (missing so many guys).

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May 8, 2021 5:37 pm
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If you’re basing it on last night’s game, then I’ll suggest that you broaden your focus a bit. What I really dislike is that you’re putting me in a position where I have to defend Luke Fucking Walton.

Bagley came out aggressive, which is generally a good sign, but he wasn’t making his shots, and looked out of sync in general. Walton took him out, and gave him some more run in the second quarter, but it just wasn’t happening. Players have nights like that. Shit, I have nights like that.

Letting other players have a shot at trying to fill that gap is a perfectly sensible response by a coach. Bagley’s performances, both good and bad, are strained to uselessness by small sample size. What’s happened up until his hand injury has little value in determining whether he’s improved since that injury. He’s had some good games, and some bad ones. Trying to determine his growth and value from any one game is pointless.

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May 8, 2021 6:19 pm
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It’s more than just last night but last night matters.

It’s simple. Bagley needs minutes on the court more than anything else.

That he can’t even get minutes in a game like that is a bad look.

You better be trading him if you aren’t developing him in games at this point in the season and at this point in his career.

And to be clear, I am NOT saying trade him as a team building exercise. I agree that trading low is silly, which makes squeezing his minutes even more perplexing.

also, he wasn’t the only one out there not playing well. How did the team do in the 4th quarter without him?

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May 8, 2021 7:07 pm
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What I really dislike is that you’re putting me in a position where I have to defend Luke Fucking Walton.

You are defending Walton and I am defending Bagley!

This is what Kangz basketball does to people!
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May 8, 2021 7:23 pm
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You’re right, this is all very bad.

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May 7, 2021 10:40 pm
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He wasn’t great tonight but there were no better options out there. Maybe he got injured but I didn’t see it.

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May 7, 2021 11:00 pm
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Ineffective. It was a sloppy game. They were really slap happy on defense. He still needs to work on his strength. And his free throws, but he did get 6 try’s. Probably should’ve been a few more. He’s got to start making them. Spurs went pretty small and they were attacking us in the mid range and doing well, Keldon went at him pretty good a few times in a row. That’s a bad matchup if Bagley’s not going to punish them on the other end for putting a 6’5 guy on him. He was missing his shots, He was getting fouled and frustrated, he was missing his free throws. His tenacity was missing a bit. I still think he should’ve gotten another 4-5 minutes to see if he could get out of the funk. Metu didn’t play that well outside of a cool alley oop either.

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May 8, 2021 12:20 am
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It just never clicked for him. There wasn’t a ton of flow in the offense, just brief stretches where it was rolling a bit.

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May 7, 2021 10:33 pm

These are not the droids you are looking for. Move along, move along.

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May 7, 2021 10:42 pm
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Alec Guinness in The Bridge Over The River Kawhi (Leonard, Spurs)
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May 8, 2021 8:28 am
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D’Ascoyne Guinness is my favorite. Each of them

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May 7, 2021 11:15 pm

Shocked we beat San Antonio once this year. Pop vs Walton is such a mismatch. I can feel the outcoaching just watching.

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May 7, 2021 11:33 pm
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Hammon vs Walton is such a mismatch.

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May 8, 2021 12:21 am
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Messina (with his Euro team) vs Walton is such a mismatch.

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May 9, 2021 7:28 am
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To steal from Andy in another thread: the potted plant vs. Walton i such a mismatch.

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May 8, 2021 12:25 am
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I commented after the second game, after Sac had won the first, that one coach made adjustments, and one ran out the same game plan.

San Antonio ran things tonight as they did in the second game, and had good results scoring inside the arc. I’d have sworn that DeRozan & Murray made fifty midrange shots between them.

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May 8, 2021 6:14 am
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Walton couldn’t carry Pop’s jock.

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May 8, 2021 3:08 am
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Back to the Future!

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May 8, 2021 12:54 am

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Will Bagley improve in this category ?
(He got stripped twice in this game, and his habit of having to put the ball onto the ground before going up is just bad, as shown in above gif)…

p.s. Nice game, nice effort by the newcomers………not much helps from our BIGs (Bagley, Metu, Holmes) in this games

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May 8, 2021 1:03 am

Adding…

This game is a perfect example on how Bagley cannot match up with those “actual BIG”….

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May 8, 2021 1:28 am

I think this will improve just with added strength, that will come with time and hopefully some more work on Bagley’s part. I remember thinking that top one was a foul live. 2nd one he shouldn’t be dribbling. He’s just got to get it up.

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May 8, 2021 1:33 am
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 2nd one he shouldn’t be dribbling. He’s just got to get it up.

I have been posting the gifs of his over-dribbling for a decades in this site…and he just never learn to stop that……..he simply cannot use his athleticism to just go up for a dunk / layup..

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May 8, 2021 1:38 am

Decades, eh? That certainly makes everything else you say entirely credible.

And if Bagley is a dope, and all he has is his athleticism, your idea, coach? He should stop using his athleticism?

If he was a worthy #2 pick, he’d just sit on the bench and shove the ball into the hoop with his mind.

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May 8, 2021 2:27 am
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If he was a worthy #2 pick, he’d just sit on the bench and shove the ball into the hoop with his mind.

I want the drugs you consume at 130 am Sims. LOL

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May 8, 2021 5:39 pm
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Funny, I was going to ask HKKF what kind of drugs they’re on, but given the confidence and exaggeration being used, it’s obviously cocaine.

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May 8, 2021 10:18 am
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Actually, he’s been pointing out Bagley’s deficiencies since his rookie year, with video clips and explanations, so HKKF could have said €œcenturies€ and it would have been fine.

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May 8, 2021 5:38 pm
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You mean his rookie year, 1996?

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May 8, 2021 8:32 am

coulda been fouled. I attribute them to actual defense being played. Oftentimes, a drop-off pass results in the defensive man watching the other player dunk and avoiding a cheap foul. Poeltl’s active hands and minimal effort resulted in those turnovers.

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As for Bagley’s game last night – all I can say is that you can’t score from the bench or if you never see the ball at the offensive end of the floor. The box says he had 5 attempts, I only saw 3. They gave him attempts I guess on the 2 strips, one of which was clearly a foul not called on a low pass he tried to get up, the second where he took the dribble to try and dunk instead of taking the 6 ft. half hook. If Walton even sniffs a chance to, he goes to a 3 guard lineup and did it again last night even though the bigger lineup was what produced the 4 road wins. There was, as others have suggested above, no legitimate reason not to give Bagley 35 minutes and run some offense for him, but he played barely over 18 min. and rarely touched the ball at all. Eat the money and fire him a week from Sunday.

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May 8, 2021 9:36 am
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The Spurs were able to do that to Holmes, Metu, and Jones all game as well.

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May 8, 2021 10:28 am

I think when our bigs couldnt get a whistle the frustration took them out of the game.

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May 8, 2021 4:11 am

The value buys have stepped up. It’s been fun watching a team play hard. I feel no need to “protect myself.” It’s sports. It’s meaningless fun. Everyone is fine. Life is full of serious issues which urgently need addressing. Those issues stress me out. The Kings do not. I’ll get my hopes up, they’ll fail as always, I’ll do it again, and so will they. If you can’t find fun in this cycle, I’m not sure what you’re doing here.

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May 8, 2021 7:46 am

This is called “thriving in the chaos” and it is the only viable survival route Kings fans have left

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May 8, 2021 6:30 am

I was enjoying the game until the cameraman panned to Vivek, not once but twice. Laughing stock of the NBA

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May 8, 2021 7:22 am

I hate Marvin Bagley!

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May 8, 2021 7:38 am

Love how more than half of the league gets to make the playoffs (play-in included), and the Kings are very publicly and earnestly trying their very hardest to be better than at least the bottom third of the league, and they….just…can’t….do it.

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May 8, 2021 7:51 am

Marvin Bagley is pathetic at basketball , LOL. And so are “analysts” who hopped all aboard the Hype Train after his game vs the Pacers which I roundly mocked and discounted and caled it for what it was, a glorified scrimmage against a horrible opponent, while hyping the burgeoning star we got for free courtesy of McGenius.

Terrence Davis is an awesome player. Hey Greg, don’t get too worked up trying to give him accolades for his stellar and inspired performance! Yeah I get it you don’t want to root for a guy with a domestic incident. I don’t know what happened there, but I can separate the incident of which I do not know the details from how the player performs.

Terrence Davis is Donovan-esque star and Bobby Jackson, about equal in raw talent to Ty, which I said from Day One as a King. Now wait until he starts knocking down that 3 with consistency like last night. He’s going to kill the league! McGenius needs to get him for 3/6M, use the MLE, give him security with more years, pay that man, lock him up. I would go as high as 3/10 plus option, that ought to get it done, build out the bench on the cheap.

It is amazing McGenius turned nothing into something, building our bench with Jones, Metu, Wright and Davis, making the situation much more palatable to the next coach, perhaps a Joerger return?! By contrast the previous GM turned something into nothing many times, for example, the 10th pick into skinny nice guy Justin Jackson, currently wondering to oblivion, and Harry Giles, a guy with two wrecked knees who could have been had with a 2nd round pick when Donovan and Kuzma were on the board.

Marvin is headed for this scrap heap of these failed picks. He got destroyed by Keldon Johnson, boys vs men! And to think there were fans saying he was going to lead us to the play-in, what kind of mindless conjecture was that, he’s not leading us anywhere. If we were going anywhere it was going to be Delon Wright and TD in the absence of our 3 best players.

Buddy failed us again last night. Any time there was been a game of relevance, relatively speaking, for the last three years, to get anywhere near the post-season, he’s been a flop. We need an A game from Buddy last night, 30 points, and we got a C- game. 6 TOs, burned on defense and all but two shots out of 14 FGAs from beyond the arc.

I had a revelation about Marvin. Vlade was fooled twice by the same player, deluded and burned. “Possesses leg speed and hops but gets overpowered on D and his offense moves don’t work.” Who am I describing? I am describing Willie and Marvin. They are effectively the same player.

I use to think Marvin could get you 10 RPG. He’s nowhere to be found in the scrum and the sweet spot in the paint. His offense consists of going directly at the chest of his opponent. Unless you are Zion or Giannis, that does not work. You need savvy and nuance, change of pace and change of direction. You need touch, you need to read and react without being stuck in your head. Willie and Marvin both have these issues, unlike Metu, who the coach should have placed in the crunch over Harkless.

Vlade was impressed by two guys who could run and jump. He falsely presumed they had the fundamentals or had the will and skill to acquire the fundamentals to be forces in the league. He overvalued athleticism, a skill he did not possess; he undervalued the fundamentals of shooting and passing, something that came easy for him and falsely presumed it would come as readily to Marvin and Willie.

To be a respectable nevermind formidable defender, you need anticipation and base and lower center of gravity like a Bobby Portis or Sabonis or a Richaun Holmes, or like Vlade as a player, who used size and guile to provide moderate resistance. Did he not see that Willie and Marvin were lacking in this regard too? He made the same mistake not once but twice, misreading their offensive and defensive potential with shallow and superficial analysis.

Look what happened to WIllie as a player. His career arc is sad. GSW had no use for him, I may be wrong but I think he lost minutes to Damian Jones there. And DAL has not been a solution or new permanent home for him either, even though Porzingis is out and Boban is his modest competition. Marvin is on the same career path. When you strip away the other issues: the injuries, the interference from Pops, the eternal comparison to Luka, you get to the heart of the issue, the guy is NOT good at basketball.

If you wanted to talk yourself into Marvin, it would go like this, “Well, he is a talent who has struggled on D, but his upside as a scorer justifies the continued investment and patience and one more year….”. Blah, blah, blah, yack. But this is where you run into problems, because he is NOT a special scorer. Driving through the defenders chest works against lightweights at Duke, it doesn’t work vs Johnson and Poetyl, and 25 out 30 NBA teams have bigs of this caliber.

Mercifully, the days of Bagley and this coach are almost done in SAC. McGenius sees all, McGenius knows all. McGenius has a vision for this team that does not include bums and wannabes. Walton will be fired the day after the season ends, that is my prediction, and if we have to give away Bagley for a 2026 2nd round pick that is what we will do, book it!

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May 8, 2021 9:02 pm
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Mercifully, the days of Bagley (this post) and this coach (incoherent drivel) are almost done in SAC (at TKH).

Light edits…feel free to resubmit.

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May 8, 2021 7:59 am

The better coached team won.

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May 8, 2021 8:44 am

Where was the heart and effort in those multiple losing streaks. With a last gasp, lets play hard for a game for that playin.

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May 8, 2021 8:45 am

So this means the bench can be emptied now, right? If the delusion of making the play-in is up; the young kids can get more than their 48 seconds at the end of 17 point loss?€¦

asking for a friend

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May 8, 2021 8:48 am

I know it sounds crazy, But I would mind signing DDR on a reasonable 3 year deal 2 years guaranteed. He is a fantastic mid range shooter. Of course we would need to move on from Hield/Bagley to open up some space.

He would definitely help us get to the playoffs.

Fox, Hali, DDR, Barnes, Holmes(Kantor)

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May 8, 2021 9:01 am

My hopes were up when we slid into #7 of tank odds, I had hope for future. The 10th seed offers me no satisfaction, that’s just the kind of King’s fan I am. I never lose hope but I wanted a pick this year. I root for my team, period, Cubs fan style, even if it takes 100 years to get a chip.

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May 8, 2021 10:16 am

Buddy “Honorable Mention” Hield

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May 8, 2021 10:18 am

Luke “The Fluke” Walton

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May 8, 2021 10:19 am

“Starvin'” Marvin Bagley

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May 8, 2021 10:20 am

Richuan “lookin’ for a new Home” Holmes

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May 8, 2021 11:51 am
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I am ok with him jetting. Enes Kantor will be available for half the price. Better Rebounder and also has a nice nasty streak. May not be as athletic as Holmes, But is an automatic 10 rebounds a night.

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May 10, 2021 11:29 am
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how much more would Holmes make than Kanter, though?

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May 8, 2021 10:26 am

Vivek should be the one stuck in front of the media to explain wtf.

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May 8, 2021 10:33 am

Yes. I saw this coming. Yes, I’m still disappointed. No. I don’t see anything funny about it.

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May 8, 2021 11:32 am

I have been thinking back on my twenty year Kings fandom and couldn’t find one time where a former ‘any team’ player now with the Kings dominated his former team. That happens all the time against the Kings. Last night I was hoping to see Metu go off. Instead he went off with his head hanging low, kicking rocks.
I am sure it’s happened, CWeb probably, but I just cant remember a time.

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May 8, 2021 12:00 pm
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I think that Beno had a few good games against San Antonio, and Bobby Jackson against the T-Wolves. But to your point, it is really few and far between.

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May 8, 2021 12:18 pm
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Buddy has lit up the Pelicans a few times

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