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Nuggets 115, Kings 110: Joker gets the last laugh

Nikola Jokic logs another triple double to close out the Kings.
By | 88 Comments | Feb 26, 2022

Feb 26, 2022; Denver, Colorado, USA; Denver Nuggets center Nikola Jokic (15) collides with Sacramento Kings forward Domantas Sabonis (10) in the fourth quarter at Ball Arena. Mandatory Credit: Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports

After a tough loss at home on Thursday to the reigning MVP and former head coach Michael Malone, the Kings followed the Nuggets back to Denver for a rematch in the Mile High City. This back-to-back traveling matchup is likely as close as we will get this year to what a playoff series might someday feel like, so let’s all close our eyes and pretend that this is a Game 7 – just for shits and gigs. In order for the Kings to make it out of this hypothetical playoff series, the Kings needed another productive night from Domantas Sabonis and a less productive one from Will Barton. Let’s see how they did:

Quick Stats

Outcome: Kings lose, 115-110

Sacramento Kings: 110 pts, 42.7% fg, 30.0% 3 pt, 75.8% ft, 24 ast, 45 reb, 13 to

Denver Nuggets: 115 pts, 46.3% fg, 37.2% 3 pt, 79.3% ft, 29 ast, 45 reb, 15 to

Well, according to my elevated heart rate and sweaty palms, this certainly felt like a playoff game. After trading runs for the first three and a half quarters, things slowed down in the final minutes as both teams traded buckets and took this game down to the wire. Nikola Jokic looked a slightly brighter shade of red by the end of this game, Domantas Sabonis exhausted himself with extra efforts all night, the refs spent a ridiculous amount of time reviewing plays, and the fans got to enjoy a great game with a playoff-esque atmosphere. Down the stretch, missed free throws by the Kings and clutch shooting by the Nuggets secured the win for Denver.

The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
The Good
  1. Defensive Effort: After giving up 38 points in the first quarter, the Kings tightened things up on the defensive end and it’s what ultimately kept them in the game long enough to keep things close. Multiple efforts by the Kings on the defensive end forced Denver into 12 turnovers and turned into 16 points for the Kings. While Donte DiVincenzo and De’Aaron Fox provided pressure on the ball, Domantas Sabonis had multiple defensive stops inside, notably on DeMarcus Cousins, who was a proven spark off the Nuggets’ bench. One thing that stood out tonight was seeing disciplined closeouts by the Kings, which forced Nikola Jokic into tough outside shots, some airballs, and a few shot clock violations.
  2. First Half Closing: The Kings struggled to close the gap for most of the first half, stuck in a 4-9 point deficit range. After trailing by nine points with two and a half minutes before halftime, the Kings put together an 11-2 run to reset the score for them to start the second half. It started on the defensive end as the Kings executed disciplined team defense to string together three consecutive stops. My favorite was a baseline help side coverage by Justin Holiday into a recovery close out by Jeremy Lamb that forced Monte Morris to put the ball on the floor and allowed Lamb to poke at the ball for a steal. Closing this gap before entering the half set the Kings up to go toe to toe with the Nuggets for the rest of the game.
  3. Execution: Although they were ultimately out-executed by the Nuggets in the final possessions, the Kings showed growth in this situation. As the lead passed back and forth between these two teams, the Kings demonstrated a concerted and intentional effort on offense to get good looks. This meant two-man work between De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis, getting Fox into the paint for mid range shots, and giving Harrison Barnes the ball and space to work his man. So often we have seen the Kings in this exact situation rely solely on Fox to create, take, and make tough shots to close out a game. Tonight, we saw a step forward for this team as they utilized their extra strengths they have and created high quality looks when it mattered most.
The Bad
  1. Slow Start: Due to some early foul trouble for Domantas Sabonis and rough scoring nights from Davion Mitchell and Donte DiVincenzo, the Kings suffered a slow and disjointed start to this game. With Sabonis picking up two early fouls, him and De’Aaron Fox were only able to play together for six minutes each quarter in the first half, limiting their opportunities to get an offensive flow going. The Kings’ offense suffered through most of the first half, relying mostly on drive and kicks and one on one actions. The offense lacked the ball movement and playmaking that gets them easy buckets.
  2. If It’s Not One, It’s the Other: After he had 31 points in Thursday’s game, Will Barton was held to just 13 points tonight. However, Aaron Gordon picked up the slack and scored 23 points on 8-12 from the field and 3-5 from deep. Monte Morris also contributed another 21 points on 5-6 from the 3-point line. Pairing that with Nikola Jokic’s 18 points, 11 assists, and 10 rebounds, the Kings had a big enough mountain ahead of them that they were unable to overcome.
The Ugly
  1. Free Throws & Turnovers: In the final possessions, the Kings gave up precious opportunities to win by missing free throws and not taking care of the ball. Jeremy Lamb and Domantas Sabonis each missed one of their two free throw attempts and Sabonis got caught in a mid-air trap that gave the ball back to Denver. These aren’t the only things that cost them the game, but they are certainly unforced mistakes in crucial moments that can’t happen for the Kings to make the next step.
The King of Kings

Although he had a quieter night than usual, I want to give tonight’s King of Kings to Domantas Sabonis. And when I say “quieter,” I mean he was still pretty loud with 14 points, 16 rebounds, and seven assists. But three of his non-scoring plays stood out to me the most: 1) his needle thread bounce pass to Moe Harkless in the first quarter… while he was sitting on his bum, 2) his chase down block on Nikola Jokic in the fourth quarter, and 3) him completely laying out and diving on the floor for a loose ball at half court. Domas worked his butt off tonight and was a big reason this game had big playoff vibes.

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deepshot22
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February 26, 2022 9:45 pm

Who got that Tank gif??

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February 26, 2022 9:46 pm

That’s great. Now about those threes…

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February 27, 2022 9:37 am
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The Nuggets crushed any momentum when the Kings would double Jokic and leave someone wide open. Every time…

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February 26, 2022 10:07 pm

Davion and Donte were terrible ! Lamb may have a role going forward ! I never thought I would turn on Holmes but I have !

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February 27, 2022 5:55 pm
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Why would you turn on Holmes? He didn’t play as he was out with back soreness again.

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February 26, 2022 10:58 pm

Fun game at least

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February 26, 2022 11:05 pm

If it was all about defense to play Harkless into the starting lineup…
then it is not working….we gave up 38 pts in 1st Qtr…

and Barnes cannot guard those bigger PF (looks how many point Gordon get in this game)….

I have said before, and would say it again here…

PUT Metu in starting lineup, just like the very first game…

Fox
Holiday
Barnes
Metu
Sabonis

I am not saying Metu is the answer, at least the size and speed match…..Metu can catch lobs for Sabonis/Fox..
And Metu can grab defensive rebound.

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February 27, 2022 1:53 am

I think Metu’s been out the last couple of games because of injury, but I may be wrong.

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February 27, 2022 11:45 am
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I’m wondering/hoping Davions shooting woes since the break are related to his hand injury? Could just be part of his steamy nature but he looks off. Even when dribbling.

Davion, without hand injury was looking solid and improving. The Kings need him.

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February 27, 2022 1:09 pm
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Most likely it’s just the typical rookie season where his performances bounce around between extremely broad error bars on either side of his average. It just so happens his average as a shooter isn’t very good at the moment. So his “off” games are going to be pretty ugly.

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February 27, 2022 1:54 pm

Maybe so. But he’s also hardly playing. We shall see. Usually he’s off for couple/three games and then bounces back.

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February 27, 2022 1:57 pm
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I mean, he’s putting up a 40/32/57 shooting line on the season. So the “bounce back” isn’t all that good. I think perhaps our expectations for his shooting may just be a little high at this point in time. He isn’t a good NBA shooter by any stretch. Hopefully he will become one in time.

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February 27, 2022 2:04 pm

Helps to know that he changed his shot mechanics his last season at Baylor. He is still getting that down in game.

I actually think he will. He works hard.

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February 27, 2022 2:25 pm
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Hard work is definitely a big part of the equation, but the reality is that the vast majority of NBA players are exceptionally hard workers and many of them don’t become great shooters. The good news for Mitchell is that his defense is elite enough that it should give him enough time in the league to potentially get his shot where it needs to be.

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February 27, 2022 4:15 pm

I think also he’s being misused in some of those bench units where he is not only the primary initiator, but the ONLY initiator on the floor. He puts so much focus and effort on his D that he should at least be sharing those responsibilities.

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February 28, 2022 8:18 am

Why in the hell would you want to play Holiday over Mitchell. The team should use the last 20:games to develop Mitchell and further evaluate Metu and Jones and perhaps DD. We don’t need to play veterans on the downside of their careers who have no future with the Kings.

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February 27, 2022 8:03 am

Sooooo, can we officially start talking about prospects now? 2 games after the all-star break and I think we can all agree that the play-in is officially done.

Yo, Bryant! Looking forward to some of breakdowns of current prospects.

Who is everyone’s current favorite between the #5 and #8 range? I’ll go first: Keegan Murray

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February 27, 2022 8:17 am
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If the top 4 are Holmgren, Smith, Banchero & Ivey, my next fave 4 would be Murray, Griffin, Davis & maybe Mathurin (taking Sharpe at his word right now that he’s not coming out).

The Kings need help at the 2, 3, & stretch 4-5, so there are a lot of ways they can go.
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February 27, 2022 8:45 am
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For me , it’s definitely at top 3 draft. Color me unimpressed with Ivey at #4. I watched him yesterday play Michigan State and nothing stood out to me. He’s an undersized scoring 2 guard. Those guys seem like a dime a dozen to me.

Outside the top 3 it’s Murray for me or trade the pick. That 4-10 range is a bit of a toss up. I could probably be convinced of Davis and Griffin, but I don’t think they are game changers that the Kings need.

If there were someone to really reach or trade back for, I’m keeping an eye on E.J Liddell. A rim protecting stretch 4 is what this team desperately needs, IMO. He’s also got a few years of college under his belt so he may be able to contribute right away. I think his age is why he’s considered a late 1st round pick.

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February 27, 2022 9:08 am
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Take a look at Dyson Daniels. He’s generally considered a top ten talent. Although he’s not a forward, the Kings could use a playmaker in the second unit, allowing Mitchell to start.

EJ Liddell is interesting. Another player having a breakout year is Wendell Moore.

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February 27, 2022 9:20 am
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Yeah, Moore is another one I like. A thought that’s been running through my mind, is if the Kings don’t like anyone in that 5-10 range (assuming Murray is gone) they could trade their top 10 pick to Memphis for their #25, #28 and a piece. Getting Moore and Liddell there would be a win in my book

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February 27, 2022 9:38 am
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I will be fine currently with the Kings picking Murray if they slot in their current record range. Am not as familiar with this class but from the bit of film i’ve watched I would just broadly second some nerves in overdrafting.

A guy for example like Kendall Brown I am conceptually interested in for the Kings. His size, speed and bounce could all be very interesting as a tertiary cutter/roller in Sabonis Fox finds. And there is at least some signs of some passing and read reading that personally should be the Kings calling card strength.

But boy is he raw and potentially completely unable to finish with NBA physicality or ever consider putting the ball on the deck. If the Kings picked him at 6 I would be scared. That said in the same token his separation from the other wings is possibly marginal. It’s a draft that feels like everyone is being overdrafted.

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February 27, 2022 10:16 am
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Lidell is going to Cole Field House today for a game at 1:00. I might tune in.

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February 27, 2022 2:01 pm
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seems like an early second round type of player. undersized 5 who will have difficulty guarding a lot of 4s and has a loading time for his jumps. some things to like though: he hit a sweet midrange shot and altered a shot at the rim, and is generally a smooth player. Best case scenario: Wendell Carter.

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February 27, 2022 2:04 pm
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Well, Carter would be one hell of an outcome for a late-1st rounder. That said, Carter has 3 inches in height and 5+ inches in wingspan on him. To say nothing of being significantly more skilled at the same age.

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February 27, 2022 2:06 pm
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I’m watching as well. I don’t see him as s small ball 5. He’s a 4 in the NBA. He seemed gassed for a good part of the first half. After he sat for a bit he came back in bouncy and fresh. I don’t have the stats in front of me, bt I’d wager he played a ton in that first half. Looking forward to the 2nd half.

One thing I did notice is a bit of slow release on his 3pt shot.

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February 27, 2022 2:26 pm
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His 3 pt shot at the moment is more of a “keep’em” honest shot than an actual weapon.

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February 27, 2022 2:29 pm

Yeah, There is a weird flick of the wrist at the end of his release that I don’t like. It’s almost like his release comes late after the peak of his lift.

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February 27, 2022 4:06 pm
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I think I saw part of that stint. He moved his feet pretty well on the perimeter. So maybe it’s a motor issue.

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February 27, 2022 1:29 pm
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I’ve also been thinking of Memphis as a good trade partner for Barnes. Using current likely placement, I wonder if you could do something like Barnes + #7 for Brooks + Clarke + #12 + #25/28.

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February 27, 2022 1:33 pm

If you were going to do that on draft day, you’d need to add a smaller 3rd salary because Brooks and Clarke don’t make enough to get in the range to get Barnes. You could pull that off once the calender hits July though.

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February 27, 2022 1:41 pm
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Really? Brooks plus Clarke = $15.7MM (obviously after MEM picks up Clarke’s option). Is that not close enough to Barnes’ 18.3MM?

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February 27, 2022 1:48 pm

After July 1, your scenario is correct. But to complete a trade on draft day, which is typical when it comes to draft picks, it wouldn’t be without extra salary because Barnes is making about 20.3 million and Brooks/Clarke (plus the 5.1 million using the trade exception) is about 20 million.

It’s not a death knell or anything, but the money doesn’t quite match to pull off during this fiscal year is my point. Which may make it tough to pull off your scenario because of the draft picks included.

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February 27, 2022 2:30 pm
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Huh. I know the playing season and the fiscal year don’t line up like this, but it feels weird to based trade salary matching on a salary the players are only going to have for another week (from the draft to July 1) and have likely already been paid in full for the year.

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February 27, 2022 2:53 pm

It’s the way it’s always worked. The season runs from July 1 to June 30th*. So if you make a trade on June 25th, that season’s salary is what applies regardless of what will happen 10 or so days later when the moratorium gets lifted.

  • = in normal seasons
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February 27, 2022 3:01 pm
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Yup, there basically has to be a line in the sand somewhere. Black and white rules are better than gray ones.

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February 27, 2022 3:14 pm
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Yup, there basically has to be a line in the sand somewhere. Black and white rules are better than gray ones.

It usually doesn’t matter much anyway. It’s more about what each team is giving up in the deal than it is making the money work.

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February 28, 2022 12:27 pm

If you could do that then I would trade that#12 plus #25/28 and Holmes to the Mavericks for Josh Richardson and Jalen Brunson. Both would shore up the second unit with Davis, DDV Clarke/Metu and Jones/Queta. What do you think?

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February 27, 2022 2:11 pm
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I like Daniels. Love his demeanor and feel for the game at a young age of 18. Wouldn’t mind selecting him with our pick to be honest if it falls between 8th-12th.

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February 27, 2022 1:11 pm
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This is probably where I am too. Liddell wouldn’t be my target though. I’d probably go for Jovic.

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February 27, 2022 1:18 pm

I haven’t seen a whole lot on Jovic, but what I have, tells me he’s gonna struggle with his shot in the NBA.

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February 27, 2022 1:55 pm
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Huh, that isn’t what I’ve seen or heard. Considering his age and level, I’d say he’s done really well. He has some small kinks to iron out but his set up and shot look good. His footwork on both pull-ups and CnS are good-to-great for an 18-year-old, his release is smooth and the release point is good. He’s been streaky at times, but again, he’s a 6’10 18-year-old playing at a high level.

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February 27, 2022 2:02 pm

any thoughts about Dyson Daniels? received a good evaluation by “Floor & Ceiling” and the Stepien.

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February 27, 2022 2:14 pm
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I like him. A lot really. He also. plays into my preferences for passers with positional size advantages. He’s a really smart player that has shown an aptitude to improve on his weaknesses. His shot is looking A LOT better and a couple more years with this shot (making him more consistent with his new motions) couple see him become a respectable outside shooter. It’s also worth remembering the he’s 6’6, so it isn’t absurd to think of him playing decent minutes against SFs in the future.

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February 27, 2022 2:12 pm

Granted, I’ve only seen a few different highlight clips, but it seems most of his shots are at the rim. He’s more athletic and springly than legit basketball skilled. Looking at his numbers, I’m not impressed with his shooting splits.

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February 27, 2022 2:23 pm
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I’m not too concerned with his shooting splits at this point, though again they aren’t bad for his age and level. I’m more concerned with how he gets his shoots, balance, motion and touch. All of which look good to me overall. His biggest issue, IMO, is a tendency to take tough shots and some drifting/fading on his shot at times. Both of which he should be able to improve.

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February 27, 2022 6:12 pm
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I like E.J. Liddle too, but I would not describe him as a rim protecting stretch 4…I mean, he can reliably block shots and hit a 3 every once in a while, but he plays more like J. Randle than C. Boucher. I would describe him as a driving-power forward lacking explosive athleticism. Better playmaker than he initially seems but he lacks handles. Good rebounder and one-on-one low-post defender.

In that 4-10 range, I like K. Murray and A. Griffin and K. Brown.
10-14 range, I like Caleb Houstan as a potential 2-way player with a great shot. After that, it depends on what you’re looking for: if if you want a defensive ace then Tari Eason or a true stretch-4 then Patrick Baldwin Jr.

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February 27, 2022 6:36 pm
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Man, I’ve seen Smith play in about 10 games now and I can only remember maybe 2 where he stood out. Dude just seems to disappear for long stretches at a time. Maybe its just his youth, but I keep tuning in to see something special and finish mostly disappointed. After every Auburn game, I always end up thinking, damn, that Walker Kessler is a good defender.

The same criticism of Smith could said for Banchero too, as AJ Griffin stands out more to me than Paulo, but that team is deep so its understandable they are well-balanced. Banchero seems like a thick B. Ingram but without the “give me the rock” mentality.

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February 27, 2022 11:46 am
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We can all agree. Vivek cannot. Cmon top 5 pick.

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February 27, 2022 8:22 am

If the team plays similarly over the next 4-5 games, I can see them winning 3 of the next 5. That’s not getting them into the play in but it sure would be a fun week or so!

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February 27, 2022 8:58 am
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Pels and Spurs wil be sneaky tough. SPurs refuse to tank. The Pels are playing to get in and are no walkover with BI, Mccollum and Jonas. If we can have some imaginary injuries and imaginary family issues with key players, maybe this tank can get to be legit.

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February 27, 2022 8:53 am

i am not getting the future matchup playoff vibe. Denver was without the second and third best players. JOkic is winning his second straight MVP. The Man is just unreal. His IQ and Impact on the floor are ridiculous. He mpacts and affects so many levels of the game. Besides, making everyone around him more effective. I mean look at their record and the players on that starting 5. It’s crazy.

Kings are still light years away from Denver Denver is arguably a Top 4 team in the West if healthy. Sabonis is a nice new toy for the Kings. But, this team still has tons of work to do before they are mentioned in the same breath as the Nugs.

I am good with the loss. A Top 5 pick is still in reach. I just hope to God they don’t trade it away for a Jerami Grant, Siakem, or Wood. Just to try and save Monte’s job next season.

For a Jaylen, Zion, etc, Yes. Do it.

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February 27, 2022 9:02 am

The team has looked more competitive albeit with clear areas of weakness still. Those could be rectified come the offseason with some shrewd decisions. Starting with the correct coaching change, familiarity and then plus acquisitions. Gentry has been worthwhile as interim in sorting out some offensive nuance and chemistry, but still presenting obvious room for improvements. And when it comes to defense the case of him staying is really inconsiderable.

Where things get interesting this offseason is our room to acquire free agents either with the 10 million MLE or via sign-and-trade with moveable contracts like Holmes. Do we group that room with Holmes in say a restricted offer sheet, adding primarily a single addition, or considering the size of the MLE take a fringe starter grade player, hoping they appreciate value to contract, and flip Holmes separately? Let alone moving other pieces and making a good pick. We shall see.

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February 27, 2022 12:44 pm

Where things get interesting this offseason is our room to acquire free agents either with the 10 million MLE or via sign-and-trade with moveable contracts like Holmes. Do we group that room with Holmes in say a restricted offer sheet, adding primarily a single addition, or considering the size of the MLE take a fringe starter grade player, hoping they appreciate value to contract, and flip Holmes separately? Let alone moving other pieces and making a good pick. We shall see.

Keep in mind S&T’s without cap room get tough. Also keep in mind that outright trades might be easier than any S&T worth doing. I don’t know if the Kings have enough to get a John Collins, or Pascal Siakam for that matter, but to get Collins you can get him without including Barnes. To get Siakam you will have to use Barnes to pull that off, and almost certainly Holmes too.

None of this says that either guy is gettable for what the Kings have to offer at this point, but you never do know.

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February 28, 2022 8:00 am
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That is true but assume its an RFA, Holmes likely could be close to a fair amount of players cap hold/offer sheet. Attach that with some draft equity or with a some additional payers and you could maybe muster some deals. Your right though I think it will be harder said than done at least without Barnes.

But I do think our ability to offer the full MLE could be worth a lot. About 5 teams have the possibility of significant cap space. We are with about 8 other teams likely able to offer the full MLE. Obviously how those cap space teams use it will dictate a lot of other players markets but I think a lot more guys will be looking for the MLE as there isnt a lot of possible suitors for something more. Kyle Anderson, Derrick Jones Jr, Joe Ingles, Chris Boucher, Thomas Bryant, Rubio, Gary Harris, Patty Mills of vary in estimation or relevance to us but I could see signing for the full MLE. Some of those could be a marginally significant contributor or push themselves into a Kings starting line up.

A lot could change between then and now so questions for the offseason.

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February 28, 2022 9:25 am

That is true but assume its an RFA, Holmes likely could be close to a fair amount of players cap hold/offer sheet.

Read this.

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February 27, 2022 9:36 am

The core showing signs of gelling, fun basketball, effort, and a higher draft pick?? I’m good.

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February 27, 2022 10:55 am

I just don’t get it, the Kings cannot seem to hit their 3 pointers since Hali and Heald were traded.

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February 27, 2022 11:13 am
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They shot a pretty good percentage but the fact is they can’t hit them during crunch time when it really counts.

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February 27, 2022 11:30 am

Of all the things that Sabonis has brought to the team, the biggest for me is that I’m no longer hate-watching this team. He’s fun.

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February 27, 2022 11:43 am
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He is fun to watch. Skills and effort. And I still miss Hali.

But I want a coach who sets up an O that gives Sabonus the ball in low and high post and work inside out as well as PnR.

I’d like to see some cutting when Sabs has the ball etc. Maybe more 3 ballers will help.

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February 27, 2022 1:31 pm
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according to the broadcast, Gentry is losing his voice trying to get players to cut when Sabonis has the ball. So it doesn’t sound like a coaching issue but a player issue instead. Or like the play highlighted where all 3 Kings crashed down the paint together at the exact same instant. The BBIQ isn’t there.

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February 27, 2022 1:37 pm
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Yep, cutting is a skill all its own that takes anticipation and awareness to do well. Someone like Fox should be a dynamic cutter, but he just hasn’t gotten the hang of what to do when he doesn’t have the ball yet. And yes, that “yet” is optimistic. In general, outside of Sabonis, there simply isn’t a ton of BBIQ on the roster at the moment. There might not be a single other player on the team you could comfortably say is above average relative to their position.

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February 27, 2022 2:00 pm
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Interesting. Well, I’m not sure I share the optimistic view of Hyperbole-that Fox will figure out how to play off ball/cut etc.

But he needs to in order for this team to be good. Hoping a coach can hold him accountable. Get him to work on the correct things.

Can Fox get better off ball, put out effort on D and shoot better? That’s what I’m looking for-for the remainder of season.

Side note-I think part of Fox’s D issue is like his cutting issue-doesn’t see floor/movement well. Same with his passing. I’m rooting for the change.

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February 27, 2022 2:03 pm
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I agree. His vision and anticipation/reading the game has never been special. Hopefully he can improve on that.

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February 27, 2022 3:09 pm

this idea feel a bit to me like nature vs nurture. IMHO, it’s a nature thing to the largest degree. Some incremental improvement can happen through time and experience, but people like Jason Kidd and Magic Johnson came into the league as some of the best at that skill already. My impression is it’s brain function, and not something you can significantly elevate with practice at this late stage in brain development. All NBA players have logged thousands of hours of practice and game time in their pre-NBA life, if they didn’t develop it then, it’s too late to hope for a real tangible improvement except in odd instances like big men or people who aren’t used to having the ball as much. So I tend to think you either have it or you don’t by the time you are out of High School.

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February 27, 2022 9:26 pm
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I tend to agree. I just wanted to keep it positive.

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February 28, 2022 7:49 am
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The nature vs nurture thing is interesting. Some of it is definitely nature. I think the coaching and positive reinforcement a player gets at a young age (nurture) determines this as well. For example, do the parents cheer more when the kid scores or makes a great pass. Also, I think AAU is the culprit to the lack of BBIQ we often see even at the highest level.

Exhibit A in the case of nurture – Bagley

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February 28, 2022 8:38 am
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Yeah, I think a lot of nurture goes into. It just primarily happens in the foundational years.

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February 27, 2022 1:53 pm
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Sabonis is one of the best passing big men in the NBA. I watched last nights game and I really thought the other four players were nailed to the floor boards. Everyone should be cutting all the time.We just stand and watch.

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February 27, 2022 6:25 pm
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There were several times in the game last night when 2-3 players would make the same cut at the same time bringing 4-6 players into the paint, its more a matter of learning to play with each other than not knowing how to cut. Fox made two good cuts last night, one was an easy layup and the other he kicked back out for an open 3pt.

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February 27, 2022 1:31 pm
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Love watching a highly skilled,motivated and unselfish young big ! A legit piece to a winning team!

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February 27, 2022 1:56 pm
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Now lets trade draft or get free agents who are also winners. We have a couple but not enough.

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February 27, 2022 2:01 pm

What about trading Fox to the Knicks for their #1 draft pick and julius Randle? I would love to pick up Murray and shaedon sharpe(if he declares). Or if we’re lucky,Jabari Smith at #1.

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February 27, 2022 2:27 pm
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It’s hard for me to see Randle and Sabonis working well together.

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February 27, 2022 2:38 pm

Agreed. There is a lot of redundancy to their game that doesn’t compliment.

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February 27, 2022 5:03 pm
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I will take Barrett, Robinson and their 1st for Fox. A young 3, a rim protector and draft a solid wing. Pick up Sexton in the offeseason.

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February 27, 2022 9:27 pm
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I have a bad feeling someone is going to pay WAY too much to Sexton this offseason. I REALLY don’t want the Kings to be that team.

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February 27, 2022 10:05 pm

To be honest, I don’t think Fox is that much better than Sexton in any category. Looking at their numbers from last season. It’s almost identical. Sexton would be younger and cheaper. Sexton would probably command 16-20. Less than half of Fox’s salary. If the Kings decided to move on from Fox in the offseason, Sexton would not be a big drop off at all, if any.

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February 28, 2022 8:54 am
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They’re about the same as scorers. Fox is a better passer and team player in general. Watching Sexton tells you that he doesn’t read the game at a high level on either end. He uses his physical skills to get himself shots, but in doing so he bogs down their offense. He’s constantly taking difficult shots while open teammates roll their eyes. I’m not one that thinks Fox is a star, but Sexton is kind of all of Fox’s worst tendencies as a ball handler. Personally, I think he’s a glorified 6th man. As such, I wouldn’t want to pay him more than $12MM per or so.

That said, IF I were to move Fox, I certainly wouldn’t consider Sexton as a replacement. If I’m moving Fox, I’m doing it because I want a different archetype. Not just a slightly younger, cheaper, worse version of Fox.

I could be totally wrong and Sexton’s market could be so weak that he ends up in a range I’d be happy with (which would be a range where we wouldn’t expect him to have to be a starter), but I think there are going to be better options for the cost.

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February 27, 2022 5:54 pm

I have to say, if this game had been called evenly by the refs, I think we win. Not blaming the refs for the loss because the Kings had their opportunities to overcome but its quite apparent that Jokic gets “MVP” calls from the refs every night that are not given to the opposing side.

I like the fight to the end, they just need to execute better and find starters to move Holiday and Harkless to bench roles. I don’t get why Metu is no longer playing, despite Lamb’s surprisingly mediocre play, Metu should be seeing minutes at the 4. I don’t think Lamb or Lyles will be with the team next year so I don’t think they should be a part of the rotation unless injuries require it.

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February 27, 2022 7:27 pm
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There were lots of bad calls (and non-calls) for both teams, but the NBA Two Minute Report acknowledged the refs were wrong not to call a foul on Jokic’s screen on Fox that freed up Morris for what amounted to the game-winning three-pointer. That would have been Jokic’s sixth foul, giving the Kings an advantage for the final 31 seconds of regulation.

Q400:31.1Foul: OffensiveNikola JokicDe’Aaron FoxINCVideo 

Comment:Jokic (DEN) establishes himself in a screening position in the path of Fox (SAC), but extends his lower body into Fox 

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February 27, 2022 7:43 pm
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Yeah, that was the most egregious. I was thinking of that play and several of the others that were called on Sabonis and Jones for touching Jokic while on the other end they let Jokic body up players in the air all he wanted.

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February 28, 2022 5:53 am

No one in the comments could be bothered to mention a conspicuous familiar face and blast from the past? Guess I’ll do the honors

Cousins is a psycho. WTF is with him. He’s not matured on iota since entering the league. His temper cost him a max deal, a 100M dollar whoopsie. He’s incorrigible and bad for the game. Griping excessively is bad enough, but when you are griping to the refs with NO basis you are particularly sad and reprehensible. If Donte did not free his arm, his shoulder could have been pulled out from its socket by this madman. Why is one the dirtiest players in the game pretending everyone plays dirty but him? It’s called projection and SLS, screw loose syndrome.

Cousins got destroyed by Ox. It is spectacular to see our spectacular new acquisition refuse to be bullied or cowered by thug tactics and treat him like the marginal shoddy talent he has become. I know that Malone has a soft spot for former players, like with IT, but his allegiance is misplaced.  If you want to win playoff games, you need players who put the team before themselves, and Cousins always puts himself first. He’s Buddy with a bad temper, they want to win, but only on their terms, volume shots and porous defense included. 

Sabonis laughs at Cousins. Who is this unhinged clown with his weak ass moves & careless passes, he has to be thinking. Cousins was actually a positive for LAC in a backup role last playoffs, but his volatility and variance is not worth what he could possibly provide.

I wonder if the Old Man misses Buddy and Marvin, two of his favorite players, former star pupils. He probably pines for their return as he downs another shot of Johnny or Jimmy Bean, or whatever adult beverage of choice helps him to sleep following another shitty coaching performance.

Where is his sense of urgency to get us into the play-in and save his job? He treats these games like preseason with his deep cut lineups. Didn’t Metu have five dunks in the 1st quarter of the 1st game with Ox? No longer interested in exploring that synergy, eh?

The substitute teacher green lighted a bad three point shooter to take as many 3s as he wants then benched the guy for taking as many 3s as he wants!

Gentry ruined Metu just like Fluke ruined Kyle Guy!

The Old Man is the Cousins of Coaches, fighting for relevancy and survival, grasping at the precipice of a cliff with butterfingers. The day after the season ends is going to be the 2nd best day of the year, after the best day in which we stole Sabonis, highway robbery, since this is when the Old Man gets ghosted, his texts and voicemail inquiring into future employment blocked by the recipient.

In the grand scheme, these losses are glorious, the Old Man is doing yeoman’s work on his way out the door. We are bearing witness to the formative stages of one of the most lethal dynamic duos in the NBA. This is much more significant than the instant gratification of a one game showdown vs LAL, as much as I would have reveled to see it.

Pre-deadline, Sabonis was my #1 target with Siakam and Brown. But since the latter two players were unavailable, there was only one. Sabonis is better than I anticipated and I already knew he was great. He is physically bigger than I thought and a better defender. He did a great job guarding KAT and the MVP likely to repeat the honor. The Pacers misused Sabonis, per the Indy Cornrows Podcast, asking him to defend him in space aside Turner and other lineups using him as non-center. This perpetuated a false narrative he is negative defender.  He is proving otherwise with us in a role aligned to his skills.  

Post-trade, pending the coaching change, McGenius set to do (more) ingenious things, I’ve seen more enough to officially declare:

THE KANGZ ARE DEAD.  

Worm food. Dirt nap for eternity or until our GM retires after multiple chips to SAC, banners hung, statues erected, Fox into HOF, his rightful places among the GOATs taken. Unfinished business looms, to make past glories appear paltry. 

Vivek will be vindicated, the man who hired the man who will be a savior of a franchise, one teetering on the brink of insolvency.  

As a point of reference, the GM who ushered in our heyday chose Jimmer over Kawhi and Klay. Our current GM never would have been so tragically deceived by a one way 6’2” SG who lacked juke moves and burst while ignoring transcendent talent.  In defense of Petrie his outgoing salvo was to suggest his replacement take a  peak at a kid called Giannis. Too bad he did not suggest harder.  

It is arguable the origin date of the Kangz, perhaps the Jimmer pick, the Vlade hire, or when the Maloofs started cheap-skating at every turn, spending more time at strip clubs than running the team, but the date of death is irrefutable, coinciding with the best deadline in franchise history two plus weeks ago. 

Extending Sabonis to a max extension is going to be easy peezy. He knows home when he feels it after the turbulence and tumult of suboptimal situation (IND, OKC). He’s found a home. He owns a home in LA already. His wife does not want to return to a cold weather city. A max extension is a done deal except for the formalities.

The same fans who questioned the merits of this trade while simultaneously battling the cognitive dissonance that a blockbuster took place in the first place, wanted to trade HB, the perfect 4th cog on an elite team, for a marginal player and non-lottery 1st rounder, refer to Buddy as elite, dismissed the star potential of TD, got duped by a fake injury, give Gentry a pass for inexplicable reason, and hold out hope for hopeless Marvin Bagley. 

So forgive me when I do not take your C+ / B- / F grade seriously!

These fans usually also say “long live the Kangz!! The mockery and meme style beatdowns will persist until the streak ends”. But the moniker was not founded solely on losses and playoff droughts, it was founded on a culture of dysfunction and the manner of defeat, the comical and humiliating aspect to it. Those days are done. We are too good to be that bad again. And just wait until we get a real coach.  

Our GM rejected a fair value trade, or lopsided against, in favor of an asymmetric value and a predatory approach, getting more than a fair-minded relatively objective observer would bargain for, and fans have problem with that?!

“Whoa….this trade is too good, too incredible, too franchise altering, something must be rotten in Denmark, it cannot be, clearly we were screwed, clearly the future value of Ty exceeds CP3 and Ja combined, clearly there had to be undisclosed obligations, picks, swaps and crate loads of cash! The endless carousel goes on….Kangz!”

IND was ripe to be plucked. We plucked them like a Thanksgiving turkey. Now we feast. 

Carlisle wanted an orchestrator reminiscent of Luka, with craft and alpha. When you have limited shot-creating bigs you need a guy who can serve it up on a platter. This was not Brogdon. They also need to inject some life into a sleepy fanbase.  The market for Myles Turner was not there. He’s a stretch 5 in way that Dedmon was a stretch 5 before we acquired him. Shot blocking is nice, but securing the possession is nicer. Sabonis is far more adept in this regard, among other glowing attributes that gave us every incentive to forgo interest in the lesser player in pursuit of our top target. 

They will not come out and say they want to lose, but IND want to lose. There may be .500 teams that miss out on the play-in. With injuries and the quality of the conference, IND had NO chance to make a run. The turmoil and crossroads of other teams are not variables you can predict but you can exploit when they arise, and this is exactly what we did. 

Conceding to our awesomely stingy terms, as opposed to holding onto Sabonis into the summer, helps assure them a Top Pick to add to Ty, Duarte, Brissett and Jackson. The Pacers would have been fair to say we need your pick, unprotected or protected, or NO deal, replace Buddy with HB, we are NOT taking 40M due to Buddy, but we got it done in the absence of these concessions because of a convergence of variables, some orchestrated, others fortuitous.

Patience and predation paid off. Regardless of the driving force the fake injury to Fox, it enabled Ty to flourish, a showcase to entice and seduce the buyer.

Do not discount either pressuring IND with feigned or real interest in Julius Randle, sending Fox to NYC, which would have taken Ty off the market. Act now or OUR terms or not at all.  Preying in wait, scheming, and pouncing like a ravenous mountain lion worked, vindicating McGenius for the many months he was allegedly up to nothing. 

He was not doing nothing, he was waiting for the perfect time to acquire the perfect player.

There’s a kid to keep an eye with the same name as the MVP minus one letter. I get Luka vibes watching him play. He’s a better prospect than Josh Giddy per my cursory review. He projects to be picked Top 5-7. Whether we target Nikola or not teams are going to fall in love with him, meaning we can use our pick to easily acquire a player like Jerami Grant or John Collins, if we so choose. Maybe we will, maybe we will do even better than this.  

The magnificence of this trade, A+ grade, which I amend from my initial A , is not only rooted in the talent of the player himself, the mental emotional and tangilble affect on Fox, but how it sets us up beautiflly for the future, another bullet left in the chamber. It will also be easier to attract elite coaching talent with semblance of a formidable team taking definitive shape.  
It is no longer a question of if we will be good, it is only question of how good and how soon. The wait is nearly over. RIP…Kangz.
 

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February 28, 2022 7:12 am
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I agree. I thought you could have made your comments one or two lines shorter. GO KINGS!

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February 28, 2022 11:47 am
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Post-trade, pending the coaching change, McGenius set to do (more) ingenious things, I’ve seen more enough to officially declare:

THE KANGZ ARE DEAD. 

Worm food. Dirt nap for eternity or until our GM retires after multiple chips to SAC, banners hung, statues erected, Fox into HOF, his rightful places among the GOATs taken. Unfinished business looms, to make past glories appear paltry. 

Vivek will be vindicated, the man who hired the man who will be a savior of a franchise, one teetering on the brink of insolvency.  

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February 28, 2022 8:14 am

Kings management to me continues to just aimlessly wander without any kind of plan. Just what is the short term and longer term plan. What are the goals for the the rest of the season. How do they define success for the remaining 20 games.

Here’s what I recommend
start and play Mitchell 30 plus minutes per game

play Metu 25 minutes per game

play Jones 25 minutes per game

get Queta some minutes

figure out what veterans, Lyles, Holiday, DD, Lamb, Harkless you may be interested in resigning and just play those.

winning games takes a backseat to the above objectives.

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February 28, 2022 11:42 am

I hope Metu is injured, otherwise I don’t understand why a guy who does nothing but cut isn’t playing more…

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