The NBA Trade Deadline is today at 3 PM ET, 12 PM PT. It has the potential to be a huge day of trades, or it could all fizzle out. But the names currently in rumors include James Harden, Jerami Grant, the ever-present Ben Simmons, Damian Lillard, Julius Randle, and Russell Westbrook.
There’s also a whole slew of Tier 2 rumors, including the possibility of movement among Kings players like Richaun Holmes, Harrison Barnes, and Marvin Bagley.
The trade deadline is always one of the more entertaining days in the NBA calendar. Use this post as a general discussion spot for news and rumors. If any Kings-specific news breaks, we’ll be sure to have it covered for you.
Prediction: Harden will end up in Philly today, and it won’t go well (see Westbrook in LA.)
Can I have tomorrow’s lotto beers pls – asking for a friend
Edit: “numbers” but maybe autocorrect coupled with the TKH lag know something I don’t
So, do we watch Woj or Shams today?
Shoj.
Woams.
Sham Woj!!
Slow clap
So, happy drunk deadline day, yes?
Hahahaha!
T-minus 5 hours and counting…
In the mascot draft? Please, Robin is not worth a 1st rounder.
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1491794060838780938
I saw reports saying the Kings are telling other teams to back off of Harrison. If the Kings saying Hali is untradeable is any indication, Harrison is now the most likely to be moved.
I know Rob and I were saying this yesterday, but Harrison really compliments the core of Sabonis and Fox. IMO, it would take a beyond excellent offer to move Barnes now.
Holmes on the other hand…
It took an excellent offer to move Hali.
Oh ya. I totally agree. If they really are pushing for the play in they should keep him. If I was to actually make a guess it would be Holmes and Bagley, possibly a pick, packaged together for something.
I’ll guess Holmes and Bagley for J.Grant and Saben Lee or F.Jackson
Good guess. Still want Collins personally, but the Kings will go the way they go.
Hope Philly gets Harden as they deserve each other ! Let Morey pay him 200 million and watch him continue to deteriate ! Seee: Wall, Westbrook
The Kings won’t make another trade.
You could very well be right, but keeping Holmes to play backup center minutes seems like a mistake. The Kings would be paying him good money to play 15-20 minutes a game.
Agreed. I’d hate for them to trade him, I love Holmes and the energy he brings, but he might be expendable now. I’m just getting prepped for the disappointment of no further tweaks to the roster.
Chris Boucher and a protected 1st for Richaun. Who says no?
Maybe not with Thad Young in Toronto and a protected 1st going SA’s way.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491815230686564355?s=20&t=QFU_cNxjyIw4QAOtf2IzgA
Lol, and this is why I don’t bet. I’d lose every time.
Guess Monte was determined to get DD at some point.
Sweet Lord… it happened
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491814938914041866?s=20&t=rvI14AWbGO9Zi1MZBaPSqw
IT’S HAPPENING.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491814938914041866?s=20&t=QFU_cNxjyIw4QAOtf2IzgA
Who’s coming back though?
My guess: our old friends Cash (Considerations) and Protected (2nd round pick).
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491815230686564355?s=20&t=QFU_cNxjyIw4QAOtf2IzgA
So it’s a four team trade with Bucks, Kings, Clips, and Pistons?
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491815451000815616?s=20&t=rvI14AWbGO9Zi1MZBaPSqw
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491815988639248392?s=20&t=QFU_cNxjyIw4QAOtf2IzgA
Jackson is whatever but Lyles is a get to me.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491815988639248392?s=20&t=rvI14AWbGO9Zi1MZBaPSqw
So the Kings are getting DiVicenzo, Jackson, and Lyles, all for just Bagley? There are some missing pieces here.
True… but no more Bags. I’m gonna take a couple minutes to celebrate that reality
Lot of wings coming in. Does this mean Holmes AND Harkless going out?
Wouldn’t that put us over the limit of people?
Have to wait and see what else we’re sending out (or buying out).
Yep. More coming. That’s what I’m waiting on.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491817913803841541?s=20&t=rvI14AWbGO9Zi1MZBaPSqw
https://twitter.com/Aykis16/status/1491817746610495494?s=20&t=rvI14AWbGO9Zi1MZBaPSqw
Well, well, well.
Donte D! A shooter and high BBIQ and Bagley “next door” neighbors with Buddy again, and no outgoing picks reported yet.
Good trade.
The Vlade Era is officially over.
So, does that mean that Bagley is Gollum?
Bagley is Tom Bombadil. You only hear about him in the books and was never on film.
Precious!
Can’t wait to see what’s next before the deadline. Pretty sure the Kings have too many players on the roster with this move, so somebody still needs to go. Or maybe they just buy out some folks?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLQBQHVVEAI6iYn?format=jpg&name=4096×4096
The Bagley trade was a masterpiece. Still a relatively small trade, but getting a player like Donte for just him and no picks is amazing. The other salaries they took back aren’t horrible either, allowing for future flexibility. Well done Monte.
The BBIQ of this team just shot up dramatically.
Really didn’t think Monte would go full-on Cal Worthington here today.
Bye Bagley (though I do appreciate his better willingness to play a lesser role this season!).
Let’s goooooo Donte!!!
Waiting for the next one to drop (or two, we are at 17 now); finally gonna see the Holmes for Washington that so many have been talking about come to fruition?
I can see Josh Jackson being bought out or waived. Moe may also be on the bubble right now if nothing else happens.
(Just butt-guessing as I don’t have all the contract specifics in front of me right now)
True, or Ramsey and Woodard if another deal doesn’t come. But there’s still 2 hours and change to get another trade and potentially get down to 15. Otherwise those two, or Jackson are waived.
Can’t waive Jackson before acquiring him. You have to acquire him first, then waive him. Which means you have to have roster spots open first or do a 1 v 1, 2 v 2, 3 v 3 deal type thing.
FWIW.
Let’s f’n go!
when Haliburton was traded, I started drinking early in the day.
Today, I think I will also drink early…but for happier reasons!
LET’S GO!!
Two years ago, Monte almost traded Bogdanovic for DiVincenzo, and it was considered a pretty fair deal. Now he gets DD for Marvin “Paper” Bagley, and gets two other players?? Damn. Well played.
A lot of people who were chucking rocks at Monte two days ago are now sitting back and saying “Damn, dude!”
Gotta give it up, I have no clue how he convinced these other GMs he wasn’t just cutting Bagley tomorrow.
All the times he mentioned staying “flexible” looks to finally be paying off.
Decent chunk of change slated to come off the books this spring.
In a weird news, today is Josh Jackson’s birthday.
Welcome to basketball hell! Not really, we’re waiving you.
Curious how the Kings manage a 3 for 1 deal. And more specifically who the extra 2 players they take off the roster are.
https://twitter.com/James_HamNBA/status/1491821679374311431?s=20&t=nMPx9SAhytPAzxh0FWOp4w
Ah. That’s how they plan to do so. Makes sense. Thought they might do that.
So who from our roster goes? Any thoughts?
Woodard and Len?
That would be my guess. They only eat $5M on that. Or find someone who wants to take them with Holmes, I guess…
Len has value. They should trade him. Woodard likely has no value. Maybe Ramsey, but the Kings still need a 3rd PG.
I’m not sure that’s a good enough reason to keep Ramsey for this season – Justin Holiday can play PG in a pinch. If they like Ramsey’s potential, keep him I guess, but it really shouldn’t be about more than that.
Woodard, Len and Ramsey are all likely. You could trade all of them for nothing or waive any of them, too. I suppose Terence Davis is a possibility, but I doubt that happens.
I’m not opposed to moving him, but I also wouldn’t mind hanging on to Ramsey. He’s so young and raw at this point, but I see potential there.
I tend to think Monte values Davis as a solid contributor moving forward.
So do I BTB. And he’s under a fair value deal next season (4MM) , too. Let’s not forget that.
He’s athletic, plays defense and can shoot. He can be a complete knucklehead with the ball at times, but otherwise he fits well with Fox as a SG
I seem to recall from a few weeks back, somebody posted that a couple of lineups involving Davis were also at the top of the heap for playing good basketball. Though, I’m too lazy to use the stat machine to figure that out, so I’m going to just trust my hazy memory telling me that it’s true.
Another possibility is moving Holmes (or another player) for a pick or something like that. There’s alot left to figure out. When the final roster is there I’ll make a long comment about it. You know me. 😊
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1491821494829264896?s=20&t=nMPx9SAhytPAzxh0FWOp4w
Not sure how reliable this is, but could put a crimp on moving Holmes.
I’m almost positive Woodard will be gone unless there’s another trade where we send out more players than we take back.
Honestly, I would’ve traded Bagley for a bag of oranges at this point, so getting useful players back in return without giving anything else up is fantastic.
I think it’s a smart trade for Detroit. Bagley could be great for them and they have his RFA rights.
I was reading about the trade on ESPN and the above nugget stood out. I don’t know if we’re one of those teams getting a second rounder (the article didn’t say), but boy, talk about icing on the cake if we are also able to finagle a 2nd rounder out of this too.
No, in fact Detroit is sending one of the 1st rounders we sent them in the Delon Wright Cory Joseph deal.
The picks are going to Milwaukee.
Kings traded his dad for a bag of oranges and some toothpicks.
I have no idea who’s on the Kings anymore, and I like it!
Everyone who played last night plus Donte DiVicenzo, Trey Lyles and Josh Jackson.
Are you an accountant in real life?
No.
Monte turns over half the roster. I wonder if Jalen Rose now thinks there is “malpractice” going on in Sactown.
I am interested in Richaun activity. I like him a lot. For his own work and pride in the Kings if he is traded I hope he gets a real role in the new team. He is a class guy. N endlessly hard worker. A grinder.
That was such a dumbass comment. I laughed when Jacoby said the NBA should void the deal. LOL
I lol’ed too and then again on the “League should get involved” and then again when he said that “Buddy is a flame thrower..”.
Safe to assume his role in the “hot take show” formula is that he’s the one who’s not very knowledgeable on sports, and is simply there to say crazy shit?
I believe you have nailed his role there.
Jefferson on NBA Today is his doppelgänger in terms of narcissistic speech making.
Have a rec!
Things like this nonsense reaffirm my decision to not watch network talking head shows (be it news, sports, etc).
I was hoping to see you weigh in JP, especially after that exciting game last night.
Incredible roster shake up. Kept flexibility for next season, added some wing depth, still have all of our wing depth.
And the added bonus of watching big market teams in all sorts of meltdown. This season has been wild, even for the NBA.
Howdy Michael.
I watched the game last night and synced up the tv play by play with G man on the radio. With about two minutes left in the first period you could hear Gerry’s voice speed up in tempo and pace and his game call fill up with the excitement in his voice as the pitch of his voice went higher and the adjectives grew longer.
And it built like a staircase from there through the end of the game. It was the most enjoyable game I have seen all year.
The bonus…I recorded the Wolves play by play on League Pass and now that the dust is clearing on the end of the trade deadline I am going to watch that game.
Like most of us here, all I need is hope and a path forward to better play, high BBIQ players, and players that respect their teammates and are motivated to challenge themselves to be better than they might otherwise be by the way they play as a team rather than how they play as a single player, how thirsty they may be for their solitary stats. The whole has to be better than the sum of the parts to win in the NBA.
The game last night is a start. Just a start. Hard work and hard choices are yet to come. Today was a good day for the Kings. Giving Monte the authority to make these trades is a window into what the entire organization can do. Vivek needs to do his corporate job, which is to “Meet, Present and Report” to the collective ownership and the corporate business of running a business. That is his role. No more, no less. Let Monte form and run the team and it’s players and coaches and trainers. The last several days everyone was within their roles. A start.
The players they have turned and acquired shows there is more work to be done and a better return may come in the days and hours leading up to the draft.
Parting notes—I would bet a cheeseburger Monte talked to Bobby Jackson about several players on the team, new and vets, as he formed his plan for moving players out and bringing in new players to remake the roster. Just my two cents. Those two guys were everywhere together at the LV Summer League. Married at the hip, so to speak.
A pivotal play in the game last night, the tipping point in my opinion, was Richaun Holmes blocking a shot by (I believe) KAT at about the 4:15 mark of the 4th period. From there the Kings went on a ten point run. It is fitting it was Richaun that made the play. Particularly in light of a reduced role for him going forward. I hope the Kings and Richaun can go forward together, but understand if a good deal comes along around draft time that he may be going to another team. I respect him and his play as a teammate a great deal and hope nothing but the best for him. He has earned that much at least. A lion for his team.
Great comment. Also, 100% agree on Holmes impact. He was big last night.
You can sync up the TV with the radio? How? That’s a good trick.
Biscuit,
Gerry’s radio broadcast lags the actual game action by about a minute or so.
I have league pass, but it should work on your local broadcast if you have a DVR service to record shows. Record the game on your DVR box and pause the action using your tv remote while Gerry’s broadcast “catches up” to the game action. A little fiddling with the tv play by play, advancing and pausing and you can get the radio to match the tv play by play action.
I play Gerry’s broadcast on Sirius XM. Channel 905 I believe, on my IPAD and listen on ear buds. Net Radio also has the games on it too.
Sort of neat to watch and listen to Gerry on the radio. He is very descriptive of the action. Occasionally after a commercial you may have to fiddle with the pause and advance button to get them more closely synced.
It was so cool to listen to his excitement with the ball movement and the passing last night. He gets excited in a very polite kind of way for an even tempered man. Fun. Should work without league pass. The DVR is the key. I have Direct TV and it comes with my subscription to their service.
Enjoy!
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491826775030181893
Would Bamba fit well with the Kings now?
Not sure, but looks like Monte isn’t interested in acquiring projects and fringe talent. He’s putting his money where his mouth is by going for Sabonis and DiVincenzo, love it or hate it.
At least they picked a direction and didn’t continue try winning whole also trying to develop young guys. Who knows, but at least it’s something
Starting to fill the voids that were glaring on “last night’s” team – shooting and wings. Agree or disagree with the type of plan, it’s clear now that there IS a plan, and it’s being executed.
I’m relieved. Not sure exactly what kind of basketball we’re going to see over the next two months, but it will be different, and likely better. For now….that’s all that matters to me.
Monte, go get Collins.
Somehow don’t think he’s available until the draft. Might be wrong.
He would be my number one target, but I think you are right.
Plenty of whispers that ATL might be ready to move Capela this summer, I don’t know if they would move both.
There seem to be constant whispers with Atlanta. Which isn’t shocking. They are deep in luxury tax next year so who knows what they end up doing.
I think you were right. Couldn’t get back here until after the trade deadline, but I agree for reasons you mentioned in other threads and comments.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1491831032932225024
I’ll be happy to be wrong, but somehow I get the feeling this might not happen. Been wrong plenty of times on these things.
I feel like Brooklyn has to move Harden. He wants out and will walk this summer. the Nets paid a FORTUNE to get him. They can’t just let him walk.
But is he willing to leave a fortune on the table? And what’s his real motivation here?
He’ll get another large deal, likely shorter with P.O. year two or something but he’s said he wants out of Brooklyn. I feel he wants a championship, and that isn’t looking like it’s going to happen with the Nets. Maybe he feels he has a better shot with Philly?
And1: Kyrie plus a filler piece on each side for Simmons. I could see that. Especially since it might not require picks. I just don’t see the Nets budging. And the Sixers could get Lillard and could keep Simmons after all its said and done.
It’s not all Harden or nothing is my point.
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1491837667771887616
This cracks me up after Morey’s demands for multiple first round picks for Simmons.
Now it’s Philly who is ponying up a first.
Happy Deadline Day everyone! Is there a Keyboard command that I can use to go straight to new/unread comments?
That’s the one feature I miss most about the old site that shall not be named.
The new system is very similar to this one except for the traffic volume doesn’t break it as often.
BOOM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491838409316446210
Brooklyn very much won this trade.
After all of Morey’s posturing, he gave up the farm for James “I will pout my way out in a year or two after collapsing in the playoffs” Harden.
2 “superstars” who disappear in the playoffs traded for each other, perfect.
Yeah they really did. They will be better with Simmons, let alone Curry and Simmons.
Our long national nightmare is finally over. I can’t handle any more articles on Simmons or Harden.
You ain’t lying. Thank God this is over. And I find it amusing by alot. I think Brpoklyn won this trade, too.
Ha. Have a rec!
Morey got destroyed!! HAHAHAHAHA!
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491841872641368064
OMG….well done whoever is the Brooklyn GM.
Sean Marks
Well done…he’s my new 2nd favorite GM
Philly just traded Simmons for the one dude in the NBA who has a worse post-season rep than he does.
AND, they had to cough up two FRPs and a player to do it.
Suck it, Morey. You just got destroyed in this trade.
I get it. And well, at least this saga and my very incorrect speculation on it is over. Thank goodness!!!!
Wow. Didn’t see this one coming.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491843305679818755
That is a great trade for Boston! Wow. White is an extremely competent guard. He and Smart are a great defensive backcourt.
I hope this doesn’t hurt his fantasy value! You are still the juggernaut.
They also sent out a first, which makes sense.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1491843815136583688
I still think that is a great trade. He is definitely a glue guy and they seemed to need one.
Someone with more general NBA knowledge tell me about Lyles. I see the numbers: 6’9″ 235lbs, averaging 10 and 5 in 19 minutes per game.
He’s shot as high as 38% on 3PA in 3 different seasons on limited attempts. Feels a bit like Mezie. Feels like a rotational PF. What else does he bring to the table, if anything?
I feel he’s a bench big but not really a stretch 4. Maybe a slightly better shooting but less agile Metu?
Thanks guys. Appreciate it. I follow “my” teams (Kings, A’s, Raiders) like a hawk, but don’t watch nearly as much league-wide.
You’re a Kings and A’s fans too? Ewwww. Those people are gross.
I know. I’ve been one for 30+ years.
Did you see that Jeremy Giambi passed away? If only he’d slid in that playoff series vs. the Yanks 20 years or so ago…
Saw that yesterday. Only 47, and it was pretty well documented that he had been dealing with some demons for a long, long time. That non-slide and the resulting fan fury from it certainly didn’t help things for him. 🙁
Yeah, awful fans really are one of the dark parts of pro sports. This was years ago, but I was at a Giants-Braves game and at that particular time, Chipper Jones was going through a divorce. The terrible things some fans were yelling at him about his divorce every time he came to bat were offensive and showed zero class. I really don’t understand that type of behavior.
It’s one thing to razz the guy for booting a weak ground ball down the third base line, but it’s something else entirely to say awful things like that that have zero to do with the game being played or baseball in general. He is a human being after all.
Too bad your A’s fandom didn’t start 6-7 years earlier. You could’ve witnessed those awesome early 70s A’s teams! I read somewhere that even during those days, the fan support wasn’t what you’d expect, especially for a World Series caliber team and that you could go to the ballpark on game day and get tickets for World Series games! That’s almost unbelievable to me.
I’m trying to not say mean things. I hate suicides.
Since the late 1970’s for me. “Long-suffering” since 1989 doesn’t even begin to describe it. (That was a fumble, not a tuck! Slide Jeremy, slide!! (RIP))
Pretty much what Adam said. He has a player option for only 2.6 next year, wouldn’t be a bad way to fill out the end of the bench. Not a super high motor, but is fairly skilled.
I think it’s a team option, but the Kings probably couldn’t do much better for anyone on a vet minimum.
I saw it was a team option on Spotrac.
LOL, I thought Craig was already on Suns. Didn’t realize was in Indy.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491849055105921031
He was in Phoenix last year.
I don’t think we’re trading Holmes. I’m still hoping he’s going to figure out his new role here at some point and still be productive.
Shit. There goes Holmes to Hornets.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491855302525964299
If there are no picks involved, then why did the Wiz do this?
Ruining Kings trades is their thing this season?
Carey must be a project they like.
This is a head scratcher for Washington. Charlotte made out like bandits.
I read that Harell got into it with KCP during a halftime like a month ago. Maybe they just wanted him gone? There was also an article saying that the players wanted Dinwiddie gone and he got traded too. So maybe just trying to make the chemistry better?
I really hope Brooklyn bounces Philly in the playoffs. That would be so worth having to deal with Morey holding the rest of the league hostage for a year.
Dallas needs a legit 5 now. Holmes?
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491858904791269376
Yep, Holmes for Doncic and the Vlade era is officially erased in a span of 3 hours.
Who would you take back? Powell and green? Do they have any draft picks?
Won’t Dinwiddie take the ball out of Luka’s hands?
Oh I hope Dallas wants Richuan. He has worked too hard to be an 18-20 min player. He would feast with Luka getting him the ball at the rim.
Agreed Mike. I love Richaun Holmes unconditionally though.
This deal is nuts. Absolutely drizzunk trade deadline.
LOL!
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1491861870256476170
Wonder who they were going to package?
Was hearing THT for Reddish mainly… apparently Thibs is not a Reddish fan.
Why did they trade for him then?
KNACKZ!
I would love to see the L*kers now trade Westbrook for Buddy Hield.
Guessing that’s it for us until the offseason.
We still have to drop at least two players I think.
https://twitter.com/OrlandoMagic/status/1491854490122833920?s=20&t=5YphdIIyY9gqgCdKbGXXjg
Awesome, love that
Did we actually trade him away?
That dude’s like Kenny Thomas. He always finds a way back to the Kings.
What a wild day.
after all the moths of discussion, no more Bagley, Thompson or Hield.
trade deadline was a win in my book.
Was one of the most entertaining in years. Plus we got rid of Buddy and Marv. So despite all the comments that said that neither one had any trade value much greater than a box of rocks they were both traded. Hallelujah
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