The Sacramento Kings will pick 9th in the 2021 NBA Draft.
Before the lottery the Kings had the 9th best lottery odds and had a 50. 72% chance to stay put.
If the draft follows our own Bryant West’s big board, the Kings would draft Jalen Johnson.
My Lotto-day Kingscentric Big Board:
1. Cade Cunningham
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2. Evan Mobley
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3. Jalen Green
4. Jalen Suggs
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5. Moses Moody
6. Jonathan Kuminga
7. Scottie Barnes
8. Franz Wagner
9. Jalen Johnson
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10. Ziaire Williams
11. Josh Giddey
12. Jaden Springer
13. Kai Jones
14. Usman Garbua— Bryant West (@BSWest5) June 22, 2021
We will have more news and analysis leading up to the NBA Draft on July 29th. For now we can commiserate over not moving up but take comfort in not moving down.
We need some miracle and hope Jonathan Kuminga drop to us !!!!!!!!!!
The odds hold up. At least the Warriors won’t be in t he top four.
The Wolves just got smoked, yes?
Not much they could do with Orlando, Cleveland, Houston, and OKC all loving the Tank.
This makes the decision of trading that pick much easier? No?
Only if a good deal’s available (though this lowers the threshold of what I’d call a good deal).
Sure. It is not that we can fuck up this team much more, and I’d rather have Walton derail the career of a mediocre vet than that of a promising rookie.
The battle for the 10th spot will be so exciting next season.
Battle for the 10th spot in the draft lottery or the
playoffplay-in? With Walton at the helm I only see the formerThis is a typical “why not both?” situation, IMO.
My vote’s on Wagner.
Depending on how the draft goes, he might be BPA at #9 (though there might be trade options that I’d prefer).
Oh, I’m with you on the trade options. There are about a dozen other scenarios that I’d prefer between now and the end of July, but my guess eez vee end up vif ze German.
I’ll take Jalen Johnson over Wagner. The kid has game. A 6’9 SF. He answers the question, “but can he play SF.” Fuck yeah he can.
Jalen Johnson scares the hell out of me. I see the talent and potential, but nobody screams “you’re gonna have a bad time” for four years quite like that kid. Isn’t it easier to just trade back to 20 or so and draft Roko Prkacin and save yourself the headaches?
Planting my flag on Sengun island. I just like him more than the others in this range. Based entirely on 17.5 mins of highlight reel scouting…
So more scouting than Vlade.
I would be borderline shocked if the Kings don’t move the pick.
It’ll definitely be on the table for any talks.
For what though would be what is most curious to me. Weak draft after the top 5.
Weird, most analysts grade the class as rather strong throughout.
Seems to be a rather strong draft, from what I have seen.
aside from the top few picks, they have been coming down from the previous hype of how strong this draft would be. It goes back several years that people were predicting a strong draft class in the future depending on predictions that the ncaa would change eligibility rules, meaning there would be one-and-doners plus the top guys out of HS. Never happened. That said, I think you can still find a contributor at #9.
Agreed you can find a contributor at 9 (Wagner), but you can also find similar-level contributors from 10-40 so I’d rather trade down and pick up more assets or at least more darts to throw at the board.
Ugh, that’s probably the way to go but the last time we did that it was a disaster.
Personally, I’d rather he look to trade the pick in a package for an impact player (if there’s nobody he’s in love with in the draft).
Get a proven entity or more picks to diversify risk is the way to go imo (unless Barnes is there)
Might depend on who is available at #9, but yeah, i could see trading down as a possibility.
I’ve seen various people praise the top 5-10 prospects, but it’s thought that there’s a major drop in talent after a certain point.
True some, I’m now fully in the sam veciene is god of drafts camp. He has pretty much been the only media guy to hit solid every year. Dude even called haliburton pre draft as a top 4 talent and will be in the running for ROY. Pre draft.
His last podcast he broke down the heft of the first round and what most were grading it. Basically came down to top 5 were kings proof. As in didn’t need a bunch of time. Also didn’t need what the kings have proven they can’t do¦develop. Which is where we are picking again.
At 9, trading down and picking up more assets seems more useful than taking a swing on the guys past the top 7 unless Barnes, Kuminga, or Bouknight are still there.
Barnes can’t shoot. Kuminga really can’t shoot…and really doesn’t have any demonstrable basketball skill. He’s just super athletic and has “upside”. Bouknight can’t defend. Heck Wagner has a higher floor than any of those guys. The problem with this draft is that beyond the top 4 every player has serious red flags. I think this is a weak draft beyond the top 4.
Don’t disagree with anything you said except maybe the last sentence. Draymond/Simmons can’t shoot, James Harden could never defend. You can have deficiencies and be a great ballplayer in this league by maximizing strengths and minimizing weaknesses. Just ask the Joerger-era Buddy Hield. Wagner will be a good player in my mind with little doubt, but Barnes could be a DPOY, Bouknight could be a scoring champion, and Kuminga could be….. anything. At No. 9 those guys are worth taking a swing at.
I think Jalen Johnson is the biggest wild card.
Everyone knows his red flag of quitting on the team, but he was hurt and Duke had a lost season.
Made a business decision and now has to prove the narrative wrong. The talent is there and the high possibility of dropping to #9.
Of course can the Kings handle this kind of player? NO, but one can hope…..
Pretty big fan of trading the pick at this point.
Teams 7 and 8 moved up to the top 4. Sure glad the Kings didn’t tank.
Play-in or bust, Greg!!!
Hey now, not tanking for 4 picks higher than we were was the difference between falling in love with Killian Hayes and having Hali fall to us.
That’s all the positivity I have to spare today.
But we were sooooo close Greg. Didn’t you want to be able to watch us lose the play in? Arco thunder is almost back I can feel it. ð¤ð¼
Scottie Barnes is still my favorite pick at #9 if he’s available.
If a 6’8″ dude with a 7’2″ wingspan and 10.5″ hands that has the quickness to stay in front of guards and the strength to guard forwards falls to us at 9 i will do a backflip. But alas, Draymond is gonna have a new apprentice in GS….
If they actually keep the pick.
But Wiggins, Wiseman, and the #6 pick along with more future picks matches salary and makes one of the most intriguing packages for a disgruntled superstar out there.
I don’t think they’re just gonna sit back and waste another year of Curry’s prime waiting for Klay to get healthy.
Not a single analysis of him is done in the context of the Florida State defense. They all play that way. No-one truly guards on the perimeter. They rush the 3-point line so that they DO get beat off the dribble. Help defender on the way, rotate. All of them guard 1 through 5, not because they truly can, but because that’s the defensive scheme. There’s a good 10-minute video on YouTube that breaks it down. Same product every year.
Hey Eddie, I would LOVE to watch this breakdown. Please pass it along!
It’s a 9 and a half minute video on YouTube, FSU Pressure Man to Man Defense Leonard Hamilton. I found some other hits when searching for info about it. I’d like to see more about it also.
Shot 27% from 3 and 62% from the free throw line. That’s abysmal. Don’t hate him, but not in love either.
I don’t hate him either. What I do like about him is his passing for his size, and his assist to turnover ratio is not bad. My concern is the marketing package. He’s not Draymond. Not a post defender. I do not think he can stay with guards. I honestly think an average athlete like Jared Butler can score at will on him. And attitude is the opposite of Draymond. Draymond is an anti-hero, nasty. Scottie seems more like Cuba Gooding Jr in Jerry McGuire.
Kings don’t need scoring. Kings have plenty of shooting. But suffer a severe lack of defensive ability.
Good. Vivek can just take the guy that falls, like last year. Less of a chance he can screw this thing up.
Probably the 4 players in the range of the Kings that I think would be good additions. No particular order.
Barnes
Moody
Wagner
Sengun
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That pick is good as gone.
Really hope Scottie Barnes falls to us at 9. He’s probably the best fit in terms of need out of any player in the draft.
Loved Monte with the “yep, we got what we deserved” nod.
The last time the Kings picked 9th, they selected Otis Thorpe. He had a pretty solid career.
Well, damn.
Anyway, Tankathon thinks we’re getting Jalen Johnson.
Could be the best pick we’ve made since Fox or could be the worst pick since Bagley. Only one way to find out!
Simmons, Hill, and #28 for Buddy, Barnes, and #9 and and 2023 1st
I get it and it isn’t crazy but it does make me…
Trying to get Monte fired as well. That’s the challenge
No
Well, all the Simmons lovers here say he’ll lead this team to the playoffs easy, so idk. Throwing in future mid to late 1st rounders seems OK to me.
Come on now, I didn’t see anyone saying that.
You’re right. Shouldn’t have said it bluntly like that, but while Simmons does make teams better, I’m assuming ppl think he’s a big reason in the 76ers success on a level where he can lift teams higher than they actually are. Which may be true or not idk. That’ll be proven by his next destination, if he gets traded.
And now I’ll have to bring it back to Fox because we’ve been disagreeing on Fox for not being able to lead this team of misfits to the playoffs the last 4 years.
Gotta defend my guy Otis ð¤ð¤ð¤
Only if he plays PF.
Fox
Hali
Barnes
Simmons
Holmes
In the Athletic Hollinger says there is a too 9, and then it drops some.
Top 9. Damn phone.
He said that, but he also had strange rankings. I strongly disagree w/ranking Suggs #6. Barnes is very good, but I don’t think he should be #3.
Kings didn’t deserve a top pick after bungling it with Bagley. It was so obvious Doncic should have been the pick.
What the fuck does one have to do with the other? If that’s how you feel about the team, I ask honestly: Why are you still here?
Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.
Since the lottery is obviously rigged, the NBA isn’t giving us another top 2 pick after we left them mouth agape on draft night for their generosity.
Kidding obviously. Or am I? Only Adam Silver knows.
Whhaaattt??? Who is this Doncic you speak of?
Explain how the cavs seem to move up every damn year it seems like then?
They moved down 3 spots in each of the past two drafts.
And won the first three out of four years just before lebron saved them.
Kings moved up in back to back years.
Shrewed management managed to get a top 3 pick swapped to 5 and selected the only whiff of the Top 5 picks in the next draft.
Kings have had luck recently.
How far can Kuminga drop in the worst scenario?
He was supposed to be too 5, then this mock from article had him at #6.
6 is as low as I have seen him. Scottie Barnes or Keon Johnson are the two top prospects that seem to slide down to 9, but you never know.
Keon Johnson isn’t a bad option.
Just gotta hope that Barnes and Kuminga’s shooting woes scare a few teams off.
Their shooting woes should scare teams off. Putting the ball in the basket is an important part of basketball.
That’s a true statement
Putting the ball in the basket is not the issue for Sac.
So here’s the history of the 9th pick, back to the 1990. It’s¦not great. Solid line of busts from 2013-18, and jury out on the last two years. However, definitely some hits throughout history. Here’s hoping we luck into a Nowitzki, McGrady or Marion, or at least a Hayward/Walker.
Many more hits than misses prior to 2013.
Kings legend Ike Diogu!
I think the W’s will be looking to trade 7 for a piece that can help them
win the title now. They could use Buddy or Barnes. I could see a trade there to move up a few spots for someone we really like that may be gone at 9
Warriors only have a use for Barnes and if we trade Barnes to move up 2 spots in a range of players that all look about the same I’ll be¦quite disappointed. Especially since they will have to send salary back.
Didn’t move up this year. Unfortunately for Kings fans, there’s always next year’s lottery to look forward to.
Yep.
Sigh…
How soon can we trade the pick? What are the rules on that?
None, but then you can’t trade next year’s pick unless the Kings get a first rounder in return for this draft.
Point is, IMO, nothing will happen until draft night. If the pick is traded, it won’t happen until minutes after the selection is made.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
Anyone else see Cousins shove Booker after the alley-oop tonight? I absolutely can’t stand that guy. Nothing has changed at all, and he certainly deserves a suspension.
https://twitter.com/RealNBAExpert/status/1407549871054376960?s=20
Yeah, trash move from a class act…at least it keeps his streak of picking on little guys intact.
What the Kings big board should be:
1) Cade Cunningham
2) Jalen Green
3) Evan Mobley
4) Jalen Suggs
5) Scottie Barnes
6) Jonathan Kuminga
7) Moses Moody
8) Josh Giddey
9) Jalen Johnson
10) Franz Wagner
AKA after the top 5, just pick the most talented wing player in this wing rich draft class. It’s pretty simple Monte.
I still think the most egregious move Monte has made was not resigning Bogdon. Other than that he has drafted Haliburton, who fell into his lap, and traded for a few middling players.
This is where he needs to make some moves or there needs to be some serious criticism about how he made moves to create flexibility for the future.
Kings ending up in 9th is what it is. They didn’t move up, doesn’t matter really anyway. If the resources aren’t there, it doesn’t really matter much if you are trying to compete. Trade or keep it, make your team better. That’s always the goal. Rinse, wash, repeat.
My big amusement was that for all the talk of OKC maneuvering themselves into a better position, they ended up in 6th. I suppose that tanking didn’t do them much good, if anything, at all.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with OKC, though, in particular, because of their trade exceptions (and the incoming cap space if they don’t spend it on draft day) they can trade for a lot of players on draft day that other teams cannot. It could make moving up for them a big, big possibility. They have lots of draft capital, that’s one reason why assets, not tanking, matter. If nothing else, OKC got themselves into striking distance to move up for a young player they want in this draft.
Consequently, if they spend their cap space on Draft Day, that could leave other opportunities for the Kings. There’s lots of cap space around the league right now (about 253 million according to Keith Smith) and even if OKC uses 75% of their cap space (about 36 million), there’s a lot of cap space elsewhere. And there are trade exceptions that will be created, and other teams might create cap space by dealing with OKC. There’s a ripple effect here, in otherwords.
How Monte McNair judges that ripple effect will likely determine whether or not the Kings can do anything this summer and make the necessary improvements they need to make. Good luck Monte. You’re going to need it.
Any prospects out there with a good third jump?
Oh golly gee shuckers, what a unfortunate pity & travesty we did not move up to #5, we could have had Moses Moody! Moses is #500 on my draft board, just ahead of Wagner (#501), Barnes (#502) and Giddey (#503).
Moses Moody has awful shot discernment, he does even not try to beat his man, he just chucks it at the first sign of daylight, he hates contact. He has no change of pace to his game. He shot 43% on FGs and 36% on 3s. He will be around 5 PPG and 36% as an NBA rookie unless he undergoes a radical transformation (highly unlikely).
What fans mischaracterize as “smooth” is a guy with irrational confidence, limited counter moves and NO awareness how to put his defender in a disadvantegous position.
Do you think our GM who identified and acquired a superior baller like Terrence Davis (who I labeled as a star from Day One) who knows how to create space, has tremendous burst, speeds up the opponent on defense is going to look at an irrelevant slug like Moses Moody and say “he’s my guy”? Pfft!
Wake up and smell what McGenius is cooking!
I do not have scientific or quantitive evidence to back this up, just circumstantial, but dudes with freakishly long arms in proportion to their body usually cannot shoot.
The conventional (wrong) thinking is the guy with the arms that never end is an absolute positive. On defense, perhaps and probably, but not as a shooter. Look at a guy, like Giannis, for all his work and focus and dedication, he is about as bad of a shooter as they come.
What is the basis to this theory? Well, it is quite simple. The longer your arms are disproportionate your body, the more that can go wrong in the phase of your shooting motion. I have seen it countless times. Look at Robert Woodward, about 6’6 with a 7’0 wingspan: brickayer. Bogi is 6’4.5 with a 7’0 wingspan and his shot prowess is spotty despite his commitment and practice.
I am not saying you cannot be a good shooter with long arms. Kawhi is about 6’7 with a 7’0 wingspan. He is a machine with regard to his work ethic. He has become a good shooter through religous practice and precision. But even he had to flatten how his shot, perhaps compensate for his extreme morphology.
Porzingis is a good shooter at 7’3. But his arms are about proportionate to the rest of him. He’s not unusually gangily as you might expect. So betting on Moody as a shooter which is what he presents himself as, is fraught with this additional concern.
Moody? The guy is a hard pass! Ziare Williams is a better bet in my book (as a late 1st rounder) and he had a terrible year at Stanford. But Williams has good shot discernment, outstanding by comparison, has the mid range game, the footwork. He also had personal issues (death in the family) that affected his play. I would bet on Zaire (or even Gisbert) over Moody any day.
And Brian, where is Isaiah Jackson and Alphren on your draft board?
Jackson is a major baller! Jackson is the type of guy McGenius will take….book it!
Wait…Bogdan is a worse shooter than Kawhi? Last I checked 43% is better than 39%. Not sure I buy your long arms argument. Reggie Miller (6’7″ and 7’0″) has similar measureables to Bogi (6’6″ and 6’11”) and he was an OK shooter I think. I do like Zaire Williams though. I think everyone beyond the top 4 has serious red flags and Picks 5 through around 13 are a crap shoot.
All +5 wingspan and high 30’s or above 3 pt shooters
Star level players – Durant, Leonard, Ingram, SGA
Role players – Mikal Bridges, Tony Snell, Bogie and Buddy Hield
7 mins of research…this theory checks out.
Theories be hurd Wizs!
Terrance Davis is a superior ball handler and long armed dudes can’t shoot? With opions like that and your constant debasing of Bogi and unheralded praised of “McGenius” has me thinking you are slowiy becoming the BBalliQanon Shaman of TKH.
McGenius rides again! (Thats how I characterize these comments, K4E.) While I don’t care for the McGenius moniker for a variety of reasons, there are some decent points in here.
I personally don’t have much of an opinion on draft picks anymore, I don’t care who the Kings should or shouldn’t take in real time. But it would be nice if they could get a big 4 who could rebound, defend, swing at shots through the lane, play high level defense, and score on the other end. That’s my #1 priority for the off-season.
That’s why I’ve targeted John Collins, although I’m not super confident he’ll be available to the Kings anyway. But, if you do not try, you cannot succeed.
It could be a very fun off-season, but I’m not especially invested in who the Kings draft as I’d be surprised if the Kings don’t try and trade the pick to offload money (like Buddy Hield) to be a player in FA.
The interesting thing about the 9th pick is that there seems to be little consensus beyond the Top 5 so that seems like a good sign for those hoping that someone unexpectedly drops. However, if we could trade back for a mid first and a second, i think you could pick up several good players as opposed to taking a gamble on the Top 10 leftovers.
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Like a swift kick to the balls. 4 chances out of 11 to land #1.
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