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Kings 107, Celtics 96: Fox and Holmes save the day

Kings hold the Celtics under 100 points for their second win in a row
By | 78 Comments | Mar 19, 2021

Courtesy of Sacramento Kings

Happy Friday, Kings fans! I hope you all had a productive week and weren’t completely WRECKED by the time change like I was. I know, I know, it’s just an hour. But as you already know, I’m dramatic as hell, so I’m going to complain about it until Greg threatens to fire me. Speaking of job insecurity, let’s see how Luke Walton and the Kings did tonight:

Quick Stats

Outcome: Kings win, 107-96

Sacramento Kings: 107 PTS, 45.7% FG, 40.0% 3 PT, 80.8% FT, 22 AST, 14 TO

Boston Celtics: 96 PTS, 42.9% FG, 38.7% 3 PT, 85.7% FT, 22 AST, 14 TO

What started out as a re-run of the classic Kangz story (Kings gain double-digit lead, Kings lose double-digit lead, Cardiac Kings emerge, Kings lose, and scene) eventually developed into a huge plot twist as the Kings held the Celtics to just 15 points in the fourth quarter and WON.

The Good, The Bad, & Hassan Whiteside
The Good:
  1. Defense, maybe?: The Kings held the Celtics to just 22 points in the first quarter and 23 points in the second for a total of 45 points in the first half. For some context, the Kings allow an average of 61.8 points in their first half battles, so this is obviously a huge improvement. Some of this discrepancy can be attributed to Boston’s scoring struggles – they embodied their own version of the Kangz and looked a lot like the Kelticz for a good stretch there. A lot of missed easy buckets, paired with the slow pace they’re used to playing at (24th in the league), kept Boston from gaining any substantial traction in the first half. But we can also give the Kings some credit here as well. Team defense and some individual overtime by Richaun Holmes and Tyrese Haliburton kept the Kings active and honest. The Celtics shot only four free throws in the first half and shot just 5-14 from the 3-point line.
  2. Fourth Quarter Fox & Richaun Holmes Blocks: Not only is this my favorite combination of Kings basketball, but it has a rhyming ring to it that makes my shoulders get busy. Right on time, De’Aaron Fox found his extra gear and came in clutch in the fourth quarter where he scored 10 points. Tonight’s performance included an and one jumper from the same spot as his game-winner from Wednesday night to give the Kings a 10-point lead with a little over a minute remaining. Prior to this huge play, Richaun Holmes added to the fun with back-to-back blocks on the two Jays. Both Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum were rejected in their efforts to be tonight’s hero as Richaun emphatically donned the cape for his team.
The Bad:
  1. Adjustment Response: Celtics’ coach Brad Stevens is one of the best brains in the business, well known for his in-game recognition and adjustments. Tonight was no different as the Celtics used the third quarter to turn the Kings’ 10-point advantage to just a 1-point lead and later took their first lead with 7:30 left in the fourth quarter. Immediately out of the halftime break, the Celtics looked to play bully ball through their bigger guards with Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart. After getting some easy looks inside, the Celtics then took advantage of the extra space to nail down 5 3-pointers in the third quarter. The Kings’ response to these punches was to say, “ow, that hurt” and spend the third quarter on their heels as the Celtics kept chipping away at their hard-earned lead. Instead of finding a way back to what got them their lead in the first place – fast pace, transition scoring, and tough defense – the Kings fell into the Celtics’ trap of a slower game and ultimately gave up their lead for it.
The Ugly:
  1. Hassan Whiteside: In his just 15 minutes tonight, it appeared that Hassan Whiteside was adamant about breaking Wilt Chamberlain’s scoring record, as he looked to score the basketball every time he touched it. Going 3-10 from the field and adding in some super slow motion movement on defense, Hassan looked disconnected from what the rest of the team was trying to do.
The King of Kings

We know De’Aaron Fox & Richaun Holmes could both easily be crowned as tonight’s King of Kings. But because that race is too tight, I’ve decided to give tonight’s crown to Justin James. As Justin is still getting used to the pace and strength of the NBA, we see him have moments of doubt and hesitance. So it was great to see him have a big HAMMER tonight to give his confidence a boost and hopefully give him some more productive minutes in the future.

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Saturday, March 20th @ Philadelphia 76ers – 5:00 P.M. (PT)

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aplumley
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March 19, 2021 7:38 pm

After watching Cade Cunningham look like garbage. I’m fine with the anti tank effort tonight. Yay Kings.

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March 19, 2021 7:42 pm
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Lol, wut.

Making decisions on one game of a possible generational talent over the one game of a team that hasn’t made the playoffs since before the i-Phone?

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March 19, 2021 8:13 pm
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I could be misreading aplumley’s comment but I’m pretty sure that was a joke. At least I thought it was.

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March 19, 2021 8:42 pm

Especially if you saw the game. Cunningham was rather awesome on a number of fronts.

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March 19, 2021 10:22 pm
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He had a tough first half and had some foul trouble but he was great on both ends in the last 10 minutes.

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March 21, 2021 8:09 am
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Cade did not look good. 3-14 and really had trouble impacting the game. At the end he was able to impose his will a bit but the body of work for that game was not impressive. But the comment was a joke. Just like us fans go all in or all Kangz on every win or loss of the Kings; this was a gross overreaction to one game and a poor attempt to make a joke about finding silver linings for team tank.

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March 21, 2021 8:02 am

Yes. It was a joke that fell flat. Pretty much the story of my life. People take me seriously when I joke and think I’m joking when I’m serious.

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March 19, 2021 8:51 pm
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Don’t get me wrong, I’m all in on picking Cade if he is available to us in the draft. How I read it is that of a recency bias. That no one truly knows of the potential success of any top picks in the draft, a la selecting Tyrese at 12. That the draft can be a crap shoot and tanking isn’t all that it is made out to be: a closer guarantee to select high quality talent. My two cents…but I still would pick Cade over almost all others available in the future draft.

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March 21, 2021 8:04 am
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Cade #1. Mobley #2. But I could be convinced to swap those two. Beyond the top 2, no idea.

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March 21, 2021 8:01 am
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I know. Just finding a silver lining. I will go on record and say that I’m not all that impressed with this year’s draft. There is some depth but I’m not sold on the star power. Cade looks like a solid wing player, Mobley looks like a guy that will be a starter level 4-5 combo. Don’t know the G-league guys so I’ll refrain from comment. I’m not sold on Suggs. And a lot of guys that seem to have some upside but also are low floor guys. This is a much worse draft than 2018 and is maybe a slightly improved version of the 2020 draft.

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March 20, 2021 12:00 am
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I smell sarcasm.

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March 19, 2021 7:40 pm

We have to come to terms that the moment Bagley went down is when the tank died. The only reason we were a tanking team is because we were trying to force Marvin Bagley to be a thing.

If, knowing now that Haliburton is who he is, we had done this from the start of the year, we’d be well out of tank range.

That lineup is just better built for today’s NBA. Even Bagley’s most noted improvement, his 35% from 3 is easily replaced by any serviceable PJ Tucker-esque combo forward.

One lineup gives you three exceptional shooters next to Fox and is en vogue. The other gives you play finishing at the 4 but bogs you down with entitlement, a toxic family, high usage, constant defensive lapses that a high-school freshman wouldn’t do, low IQ, and no ability to switch onto the perimeter.

Hopefully we waive/cut Bagley soon.

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March 19, 2021 8:10 pm

Enjoy the win, get over it with Bagley. There is no happiness in regrets.

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March 20, 2021 12:03 am

What is this kumbaja shite? I want the old BuffaloDiaspora back.

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March 20, 2021 1:49 pm

There’s a whole lot less happiness not expressing frustration/upset. And get over what? The Kings are still trying to force Bagley down our throats. I/we’ll get over it when the Kings do.

And who the hell says you can’t enjoy a win and point out a player/team issue.

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March 19, 2021 9:11 pm

Exactly. Preach

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March 19, 2021 9:32 pm

maybe the best summary of the Bagley situation I’ve read.

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March 20, 2021 3:02 pm

LOL, yeah…if we just subtract Bagley we’re a playoff team.comment image?itemid=15366934

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March 19, 2021 7:42 pm

Celtics are our best matchup ever, don’t whip the ball around, don’t attack the rim, don’t draw fouls, small on the inside.

Looks like they need Whiteside and Barnes BIG TIME. Just walk on over guys. I expect a blow out tomorrow by the Sixers.

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March 20, 2021 4:43 am
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Nah. We whooping that ass in Philly…

Hopefully

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March 20, 2021 9:08 am
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Can’t wait to read the comments when they beat Philly tonight. All of us pro tankers are going to lose our collective minds.

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March 19, 2021 7:43 pm

Well, we did jump 5 spots the year we made the mistake of choosing Bagley because Vlade allegedly knew something about Luka no one else did. Knowing we were supposed to be number 7 in that draft makes it really sting. Will the NBA lottery give us a mulligan by having us jump to the top 3? That’s our only hope at this point.

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March 19, 2021 7:46 pm

SWEEP!

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March 19, 2021 8:12 pm
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March 19, 2021 8:17 pm
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I have so many questions…

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March 19, 2021 8:09 pm

Keeping Fox, Rese, Holmes, HB, MB3, and Buddy wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world I guess. Fox is around 25 in ESPN player ratings, Holmes and HB around 60, Rese and Buddy around 90 and MB3 a lil over #100. So that means we have 6 players around top 100 according to whatever criteria they’re using. Getting rid of Buddy and playing Woodard some would be nice.

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March 19, 2021 9:15 pm
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Not sure I wanna be, but I’m kind of entering this zone. Those 6 aren’t bad…The Bagley starting line up is +7 net on the season and current starting line up is +18 net rating, one of the best in the league. Current starting line up also has one of the better defensive ratings among line ups with 100+ mins. We all know the problem is the bench.

Tonight in 61 bench mins, FOUR guys produced 12 pts (5-19 FG), 9 rebs, 2 asts and 6 TOs.

Nail upcoming draft pick and you have 7 decent players…one good low level signing or development from a second rounder and you are at 8 quality rotational players. Should get continued development from Fox, Hali and Bagley (to some degree).

I would think just about any coach would probably be an improvement as well.

Question is can you resign Holmes without moving a Buddy or Barnes contract…tough call.

It’s no elite Western conference team, but I see a potentially competent and competitive team, which at this point I would take.

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March 19, 2021 10:12 pm
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I am as well. I started to when I came to grips that we are too good to be a bottom 5 team. We can’t play defense worth a lick but we have a top 10 offense. And there were multiple close games we lost where all our bench points came from Bjelly. Haliburton missed those games IIRC. So all in all I am just hoping for lottery luck. I’m leaning towards preferring adding a top 5 talent to this current group than with whatever squad we would have minus Barnes or Buddy.

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March 19, 2021 11:03 pm
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Competitive? If this is the team you’re rolling out next year, they are still not making the playoffs. Who are they jumping? Klay will be back with the Dubs, Memphis will be a year more exp and JJJ back. Minnesota will probably be improved with Edwards absolutely balling right now and a Top 3 pick again for Minny. Spurs will be improved. Just by the fact, Pop is coaching these young guys. OKC will have money, picks and room to grow,

So, the KIngs will almost be capped out once they Sign Holmes. You will have your Top 5 players making about 100 mil and you’re still a 10-15 team. That will not make the playoffs and is playing under .500.

So, that’s competitive?

Suns, Lakers, Clips, Nuggets, Jazz, Blazers and Dallas are just about locks to be in the playoffs again next year.

Kings could be better than the Rockets, Pels, Okc, Minny(But not for long)

If this team makes no moves. You’re looking at another 31-32 win season.

I see continued mediocrity. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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March 20, 2021 12:39 am
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I think a new coach could have them doing juuuuust fine.

Fox
Hali
Barnes
Bags
Holmes

Buddy
’21 draft pick
MLE

Hope one of the 6/7 second rounders can be a 9th man.

BTW, ideally I’d like to trade at least buddy, but I think he brings back the least right now. With a new coach and cheaper contract, next deadline could be his highest value.

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March 20, 2021 7:19 am
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How do you expect to re-sign Holmes with Barnes and Buddy coming back? If anyone offers him more than $10M the Kings can’t really sign him.

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March 20, 2021 8:11 am
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Well it’s a good thing I discussed NOT rolling out this exact team. You have a mid lottery draft pick and maybe Woodard to develop to fill bench. These could be bench improvements which is what this team needs most.

Presumably would have a new coach which we all agree would be a help.

Most teams big question is who are your closing five. Kings don’t really have that question and that’s a good thing. Look at the top 5 man lineups playing 150+ mins. Only one of those lineups in the top 15 or so doesn’t belong to a playoff team. The Kings. I think if you get an adequate bench you are in a real hunt amongst many of the teams you mention in bottom half of playoffs.

We also have no idea what some teams will look like next year. Who thought the Suns would be a 3 seed a year ago?

Lots will change over next 6 months…cue €œBut the Kings will always be out of playoffs€ joke. 😉

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March 20, 2021 4:46 am
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You said “minus” Bagley right?

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March 20, 2021 8:18 am
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Truth be told, if the Kings were to remain relatively intact, not guarantee Joseph next year, and add a lottery salary, I put the chances of re-signing Holmes at less than 20%. They just don’t have the cap space. Holmes is going to want, and is deserving, of more the the full MLE.

There are just too many teams with cap space this summer and too few quality FA. Holmes is about to get paid, and the Kings won’t be able to afford him with Buddy, Barnes, Fox, and Bagley’s salary already on the books.

It is going to come down to this: If you want to re-sign Holmes, one or two of Buddy, Barnes and/or Bagley need to go with relatively little guaranteed salary in return. It’s got to be Boston.

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March 20, 2021 8:42 am
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You may be right. His market will be interesting as with all centers lately. Using the MLE with raises he could get around 4/44. Is he getting a lot more than that? Does he like it here? Hoping Monte has more of a feel for that.

Bagley is obvious candidate and has 11 mill which would free up the space needed for Holmes. Prolly have to take some salary back though.

Not sure…how many of these smaller contracts, Ramsey, James are guaranteed for next year?

I know it was discussed on last podcast but how much do they have in straight space once ridding Joseph? Does freeing up any of these small guarantees give more space?

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March 20, 2021 8:53 am
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I believe this sit right around $95M if they don’t guarantee Josephy’s deal. Next year’s cap is projected to be around $112M.

The Kings currently have 4 draft picks in the upcoming draft. If they sign just one of the second rounders and their lottery pick that will cost them at least $5M (Hali is currently getting $3.8M as the 12th pick).

That puts the Kings at roughly $100M with a core of Fox, Buddy, Bagley, Hali, Barnes, lottery pick and some 2nd rounders.

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March 20, 2021 9:08 am
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Got it. Thanks. So if they are ten mill under no difference vs the amount they have in MLE offer basically. Hopefully Monte can get creative. Tough spot.

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March 20, 2021 9:14 am
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Yup. It looks like the could potentially afford him, but you’ve also lost Joseph, Nemanja and Whiteside as part of the rotation. The bench would be so weak with that much money tied up into your core 6 players. The rest of the team would basically be 2nd rounders, two-way players and vet-minimum contracts. That is not a playoff team.

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March 20, 2021 12:01 pm
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Dunno. Looking at recent free agent center deals I think 10 or so mill could get it done. He states he likes it here. Has an obvious important role. I’m not sure I see the 3 for 45 type contract based on recent league action and if it’s not there maybe he just stays here. Favors went for 3-30, Thompson and Ibaka were mid level. I don’t think those players are in a different ballpark than Holmes probably. I like him a little more than those though.

If they use the Full MLE on Holmes, that leaves them 10 million to scrap a bench together. I don’t know how the mini mid level, bi annual exceptions and all that work.

Maybe…get the right 2nd rounders, vet minimum etc I could squint and see it. I mean the production of whoever is brought in can’t be much worse than Belly, Joseph and Whiteside combined

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March 19, 2021 8:15 pm

The Celtics kinda stink don’t they? I’ve watched them a lot this year and man they come out and look like trash a lot. Obviously not as much as the Kings but that was a pretty pathetic performance by them. It seems like they’ve got a whole bunch of B+/A- players but don’t have the no doubt 1A playmaker. Tatum and Brown are both very good but neither of them really create much for others.

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March 19, 2021 8:17 pm

Kemba was supposed to be that guy for them but he’s clearly on the downside of his career at this point.

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March 19, 2021 8:23 pm

The Celtics were just still hung over from St. Patty’s Day

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March 19, 2021 8:43 pm

Agreed. I don’t think their depth is great either. Haven’t looked up any stats, but their bench unit does not appear very formidable.

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March 19, 2021 8:43 pm

Other teams are flawed?!?!? No way!

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March 19, 2021 10:27 pm
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Stunning, I know. It’s funny because they have a similar problem that the Kings have in that their bench is pretty bad and they’re light on play makers. Now, the difference is, they’ve got better wings and have the ability to defend teams at a high level when engaged, but their offense just feels like a constant struggle.

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March 19, 2021 9:23 pm

My college wrestling coach would say they have too many nice boys and not enough dogs.

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March 19, 2021 8:27 pm

First time we’ve won in Boston since 2007

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March 19, 2021 8:58 pm

Buddy had some very nice defensive moments tonight, I think that is the first time I have made that comment this season.

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March 19, 2021 9:37 pm
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Hopefully some team noticed.

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March 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Not good enough to make a 10 team playoff but not good enough for a top 5 pick in a loaded draft. So. Damn. Frustrating.

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March 19, 2021 9:36 pm
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The Continued Rinse and Repeat 7-10 pick. If no significant moves are made by Thur, I am done watching this team for the year. It will be more exciting following the Hornets and Grizz. Watch the Nets Sweep the Lakers in 4.

No moves mean VIvek’s grimy hands all over this and Monte is nothing more than a do boy. Kings might have an outside shot catching The Grizz for 10. Just to play the Dubs and get eliminated quickly. But, hey man, the season was a rousing success. Kings won’t catch the Spurs or Dallas. Spurs have a ton of high IQ players that just play the right way consistently. With no Stars. Dallas has Doncic and after a slow start is starting to make everyone on his team look good.

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March 19, 2021 10:29 pm
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Just paint the deck chairs a different color.

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March 19, 2021 9:26 pm

Tied for 7th with 3 other teams. C’mon Monte start making some moves. Celtics are a mess. I sense one of the two, either Jaylen or Jason is moved at some point. If not this deadline, possibly over the season. Kemba’s contract is ridiculous. I don’t even think a combo of Holmes, Barnes helps that team much. No one is getting past the Nets.

If Celtics somehow get in the playoffs, they’ll be out in the first round.

I would like the Kings to hire Stevens, if he becomes becomes the scapegoat for their decline.

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March 19, 2021 9:31 pm

“With the eighth pick in the 2021 NBA draft, the Sacramento Kings select…”

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March 19, 2021 9:39 pm
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Zags senior SF

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March 19, 2021 10:16 pm
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The Past 31 years of of All Stars by their draft position:

1st Pick: Coleman, Johnson, O’Neal, Mourning, Webber, Robinson, Brand, Duncan, Iverson, Smith, Martin, Ming, Lebron, Rose, Griffin, Wall, Davis, Townes. Simmons, Zion, Howard.

2nd Pick: Payton, Anderson, Mourning, Kidd, Camby, Francis, Aldridge, Durant, Russell, Oladipo

3rd Pick, Grant Hill, Stackhouse, Baron Davis, Anthony, Horford, Harden, Beal, Embiid, Tatum, Doncic

4th PIck: Motumbo, Wallace, Odom, Marbury, Paul, Westbrook, Bosh,

5th PIck: Kevin Garnett, Vince Carter, Steve Smith, , Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, and Kevin Love

6th Pick: Antoine Walker and Damian Lillard

7th Pick: Curry and Randle

8th Pick: Andre Miller

9th Pick: Mcgrady, Nowitzki, Marion, Stoudamarie, Derozen, Hayward, Walker

Picks 6-8 are the worst places to pick in the draft.

You want to be Top 5 or PIck 9(The Outlier)

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March 19, 2021 10:23 pm
Reply to  SelecaoKOJ

6-8 are the worst places to pick in the draft…huh? So if the Kings are smart they will just swap the 8th pick for the 15th pick because in the past only Andre Miller has made an All Star from 8.

Giannis and Kawhi were picked 15th.

Monte going full basketball 4.0 at this draft by trading down to guarantee future Hall of Famers. My logic is undeniable, so don’t try to poke holes in it.

In all seriousness if you want to make the case that historically there isn’t a big difference in picking 6-14 I would tend to agree with that, especially over the past ten drafts and lottery picks are skewed towards one and dones and more of a gamble.

I’d still rather pick 6 though if given a choice : )

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March 20, 2021 7:58 am
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Logic DENIED…

Just because you said it was undeniable.

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March 20, 2021 8:14 am
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LOL 😆

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March 19, 2021 10:08 pm

So, who looks good in the 7-12 range of the draft?

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March 20, 2021 12:10 am
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The Kings?

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March 20, 2021 12:43 am
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Kispert or Moody probably

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March 19, 2021 10:10 pm

Say what you want but that was an impressive win tonight on the road against Boston. At least for now it appears the number one objective for the Kings is to win games and make a run at a playoff spot. There’s no indication they are ready to tank. So let’s fantasize a little.

We are now 2 and half games behind Memphis. Our schedule for the last 31 games is somewhat easier win many winnable games and May 13-14, we have back to back games with Memphis. So there is a window of opportunity for that 10th spot. Let’s say the Kings sneak into the 10th spot and everything else remains as is. Our opponent would be San Antonio and I think that would be the best possible opponent we could have. Two wins over a San Antonio team without Aldridge is not completely out of the question.

Let’s take this fantasy one step closer. If the Kings should upset San Antonio, who among the top tier teams would you want to play next. I don’t think we’d want any part of the Jazz, Lakers, Clippers or even the Nuggets. The team I would pick is Phoenix and I think it’s a real possibility Phoenix snatches the second seed, which means Phoenix would be our opponent. This is not the path that is prudent for the Kings future IMO but I’m just saying. It’s a fantasy for sure and a long shot but I think we all have to admit, that’s an exciting possibility.

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March 19, 2021 10:16 pm

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March 19, 2021 10:24 pm

LOL!! Can I have what you’re having. If the Kings get the 10th spot they would play the Dubs not the SPurs. The Kings would have to beat the Dubs twice to get into the playoffs. That is not happening.

So, it’s exciting to see a below .500 team get to a play in and lose? We have really set the bar low on this team. By the way, Celtics are not a good team. Beat a healthy good team and maybe you can have that conversation.

You are also underestimating the Spurs superior coaching, BBIQ of the players, and not taking into account any players the Spurs may acquire at the deadline.

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March 20, 2021 12:47 am
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they may acquire Barnes in a wild twist.

Barnes, Belly for Aldridge, Vassell, Luka

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March 20, 2021 6:00 am
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You are correct. We’d play the Warriors first and then the winner of San Antonio and Dallas.

At the conclusion of the regular season, the team with the seventh-highest winning percentage in each conference will host the team with the eighth-highest winning percentage in its conference in a Play-In Game (the €œSeven-Eight Game€). The winner of the Seven-Eight Game in each conference will be the seventh seed in the playoffs for its conference.
The team with the ninth-highest winning percentage in each conference will host the team with the tenth-highest winning percentage in its conference in a Play-In Game (the €œNine-Ten Game€). The loser of the Seven-Eight Game will host the winner of the Nine-Ten Game in a Play-In Game, and the winner of that game will be the eighth seed in the playoffs for its conference.

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March 20, 2021 10:47 am
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I think there’s a broader point here which makes the post interesting. It’s quite possible with Buddy’s contract that he’s underwater with his trade value. I will add, if you can’t get a decent haul for Barnes then we should keep him. If neither are good trade prospects then you continue to play to win. The lineup of Fox, Buddy, Halliburton, Barnes and Holmes has proven to be quite effective per NBA standards.

Sounds crazy but the key for the rest of the season may be Justin James. If Whiteside can stay healthy and available and James can step up his game and provide effective minutes off the bench, it’s not unreasonable to assume the Kings can compete for that 10th spot especially with their remaining schedule. At this point, there is a case to be made to just keep truckin. I say that as one who felt from the start of the season, this should have been a rebuilding and development year. We should have been following the OKC blueprint. At this point however with Bagley out and James possibly getting meaningful minutes what’s left. Maybe some minutes for Guy and Woodard.

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March 20, 2021 8:06 am

No…no…no.

These are young professionals and I’d rather not have our team looking weak by avoiding teams. Every team has a weakness. We exploit theirs before they exploit ours. We ain’t avoiding shit. We want all the smoke. PLUS, plus, we got 4QFox.

Go KINGS!

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March 20, 2021 1:15 am

Haven’t heard much this season about Vivek meddling. If he is, either it’s not being reported or it’s very low-key.

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March 20, 2021 11:14 am
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Literally two days ago:

€œI talked to a couple people just in the last couple hours to get a feel for these guys and what people around the league think may happen,€ Beck said. €œOne of the things I heard was that essentially they’re only going to trade Barnes and Hield if they’re blown away by an offer. Not because they overvalue them, but because Vivek Ranadive wants to be competitive. He doesn’t want to tank.€

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article250056014.html

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March 20, 2021 12:44 pm
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you’re too casual of a fan. lol

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March 20, 2021 8:10 am

In his second start at PF Barnes had 13 rebounds. Let’s see how many times Bagley has gotten 13 rebounds in his 37 starts….that would be a total of zero (season high: 12).

I have a trade proposal for Ainge. We will take Robert Williams, Nesmith, and two #1 picks (2021 and 2022) in exchange for….wait for it…. Marvin Bagley!

The removal of a neutral to bad player (Marvin) and the upgrade of bad player to average to good (Buddy) makes us more competitive even though our bench is trash. The fragile line between winning and defeat has been breached.

Haliburton, who did not play well but has a calming and confidence inspiring effect even when not, restrains Buddy from his “creative machinations” and helps us get good looks most of the time. Suddenly he is not the glaring chucker anymore. He has fewer chances to give in to his worst inclinations.

When the game was tied 87 all, Whiteside blocked Tatum under the basket then shadowed him out to the 3 point line on a good contest and forced the miss. On the next possession, he closed out on Kemba and forced a miss. He also got an offense rebound that led to a Fox 3-pointer. So while Whiteside was “ugly” with his offense but he still has a presence and impact related to the MOST pressing need and weakness of the team (getting stops).

But lets him call out for that while Bjelica looks like the worst player in the NBA?

Bjelica is 10X worst the defense player than Whiteside. The fact this coach trots out Bjelica and Joseph is a sham, and he deserves NO credit if our play continues to tick up bc he was forced into this lineup for which I advocated before the season began.

It should NOT have taken an inury for the coach to go to this lineup.

Barnes can play PF on most night. And he is better than Marvin playing out of the post. Buddy may be better checking most SFs. I still am unsure, he gets burned no matter who is trying to check, but Buddy may be less exposed defensively guarding a less mobile wing.

It is ridiculous Tatum is a two-time All-Star v Fox when Fox is far superior as a dominant and takeover player. There is NO contest in the difference between the two players to create their own shot.

With Fox and Ty on the floor and Buddy, Holmes becomes a more opportunistic scorer and more valuable. Holmes missed some easy shots that he normally makes, but still played an outstanding game. Holmes is averaging 14 PPG. With our new lineup, I can see Holmes boosting his scoring average to 18 PPG to go with the excellent play on the other end.

Bagley who?!

Just as I suspected and predicted, with more evidence pending tonight vs 76ers, our team minus Bagley is better. It makes fans wanting to “blow it up” look foolish when clearly they were misreading the dynamics and the issues of the team. Barnes and Buddy are keepers. It is Bagley who has proved nothing. Bagley is a back-up 4 on this roster, and should have been all season if the coach had the “courage” to do the right thing, for our playoff chances and his coaching career.

Regardless, if the team play stays on this course, Bagley may be gone within the next 5 days with the GM more inclined to pull the trigger on any decent offer. In fact he may just lessen what he is willing to accept. My guess is Marvin probably sticks around, and this is because the rest of the league sees the same thing our GM does. I put the odds at 40/60 against him being traded, whereas with Barnes and Buddy, it is 90/10 they remain Kings.

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March 20, 2021 8:48 am
Reply to  kings4ever

These are always genuinely fun 😆

Number of times Marvin Bagley has played 39 mins like Barnes last night in getting his 13 Rebs? Zero!

Only played 34 or more mins 3 times and he had 10+ boards in all 3. Bagley has many faults as a developing player…seems like an odd one to go after.

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March 20, 2021 9:09 am
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kings4ever is not totally wrong…

we did play lot better without Bagley, most obvious thing observed is that the team did not make obvious defensive mistake……..and the team don’t need to put extra effort in compensating the defensive deficiency by Bagley…

p.s. But kings4ever need to be go back to reality that Boston will hang up the phone when we propose Robert Williams, Nesmith, and two #1 picks (2021 and 2022) in exchange for Mr. Bagley

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March 20, 2021 9:59 am

I assumed that trade proposal was sarcastic…I probably shouldn’t 😉

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March 20, 2021 12:59 pm
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I will just say that I agree we should trade Marvin as the number one priority. move on get what you can for him now. His value is not going to go up or down significantly in either direction over the next 18 months. what are we holding out for, an extra second round pick? Meanwhile we don’t have the cap space to invest in Holmes who is actually a good fit if not great fit.

Trade Marvin ASAP. I bet you can get an average young player and a 15-30 first round pick. Spurs, magic, suns, warriors just to name a few who I would think would be willing t trade their 2021 first round picck top 5 protected plus a young player for marvin

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