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Davion Mitchell is taking a step forward

Davion Mitchell deserves recognition for his recent play.
By | 48 Comments | Mar 25, 2022

Credit: Sergio Estrada-USA TODAY Sports

Looking at Davion Mitchell’s numbers for his rookie season, it’s easy to be a little underwhelmed. 10.7 points on 47.7% shooting and 32.3% from 3, with 3.4 assists and 2.1 rebounds per game, in 26.2 minutes per game. They aren’t bad numbers, they just aren’t overly exciting. The shooting numbers in particular stand out.

But lately Davion has taken a big step forward.

Over the last three weeks he’s averaging 16.5 points, shooting 50% from the field, and is making 41.5% of his 5.1 three point attempts per game. It’s still a small sample size, of course, with the Kings playing just 8 games in those three weeks, but that doesn’t make it any less encouraging.

Mitchell has also been huge in the last three games where the Kings were missing De’Aaron Fox. His played 39.7 minutes per game, and is averaging 21.7 points, 6 assists, and 1.7 rebounds, while still shooting 47.1% overall and 43.8% from beyond the arc.

This improved offensive production, combined with Mitchell’s on-ball defense, are exactly what the Kings were hoping for when they picked Davion with the 9th overall pick in the draft.

I’m not trying to draw any grand conclusions here. It’s all a small sample size still, and there’s still going to be the ongoing challenge of how Davion fits with De’Aaron Fox.

For now, we simply can take a moment to appreciate how well Davion has been playing lately.

 

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Brown.says.Good.or.Bad
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March 25, 2022 1:54 pm

Anyone helping to fill the Haliburton hole is good

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March 25, 2022 2:18 pm

That’s a visual I would like to burn from my brain.

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March 25, 2022 2:34 pm
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March 25, 2022 2:04 pm

But can he take a step small forward?

(Even I am sick of this joke.)

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March 25, 2022 2:19 pm

Davion is a true Baller and brings it on both ends consistently . He may prove to be a more valuable piece than Hali .

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March 25, 2022 2:32 pm

Davi’s surge has come with him as the primary ball handler. Fox has flourished since Hali left and returned Fox to being the absolute primary ball handler. So the question is, can Fox and Davi both co-exist and flourish while simultaneously being on the floor?

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March 25, 2022 2:41 pm
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If so, don’t get too attached to Davion, as Vivek will issue his ” “win now trade-trade-trade decree” to Monte for next year’s 8th seed spot. 

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March 25, 2022 4:30 pm
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It’s still rather amazing that there are people who allegedly pay attention, but still think acquiring Sabonis was a win-now move. National sports media has the luxury of claiming ignorance, which shouldn’t be an option for them, no matter how true it is.

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March 25, 2022 9:19 pm
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Too many years being conditioned to believe that a single good player is what takes the team to the top.

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March 25, 2022 3:25 pm
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Some numbers for you. Since February 9th….

Player A Per 36: 26.9 PPG, 6.3 AST, 3.8 REB, 2.7 TOV, 1 STL
116.2 ORtg, 117.7 DRtg, 58.4 TS%.

Player B Per 36: 16.2 PPG, 4.5 APG, 2.6 RPG, 2.3 TOV, 1.2 STL
103.4 ORtg, 112.2 DRtg, 52.7 TS%.

I’m not saying Davion sucks. I’m not saying these numbers don’t skew against him or comparing him with the max player on the roster is fair. But that’s what you’re doing when you say trade De’Aaron and keep Davion instead. And why, if you don’t believe they can co exist, you might have to trade Davion. Davion might be more comfortable playing with the ball in his hands, but he’d better learn how to play off ball if he wants to have a long career in the NBA. Because Davion will never be as good as De’Aaron is now, and De’Aaron could improve in some areas himself.

It’s not like Davion would get traded to say, Minnesota, and not play off the ball. He’s not going to Boston, or Philly and doing the same thing he’s doing now. Nobody will give him the keys like he had at Baylor.

Which gets back to this:

So the question is, can Fox and Davi both co-exist and flourish while simultaneously being on the floor?

Up above is a long way of saying, I have no effing clue. Because Davion has to learn how to play off ball and be comfortable doing it regardless of being in a Sacramento Kings uniform or not.

I do think what we’ve seen from Davion is that if De’Aaron misses a few games here or there for whatever in the future, Davion is a quality stand in and can play with the ball in his hands on an interim basis and possibly help the team doing so. So that, as Greg pointed out, is encouraging.

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March 25, 2022 3:30 pm
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But that’s what you’re doing when you say trade De’Aaron and keep Davion instead.

Thank goodness I never said that…or even inferred it.

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March 25, 2022 3:36 pm
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No, I wasn’t claiming you said that. I should have qualified that better so apologies for that. I was referring to the sentiment that you would be better off with Davion instead of De’Aaron.

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March 25, 2022 3:45 pm
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No worries. And to your point, while Fox has his shortcomings, he is on another planet than Davi as a player right now. I felt that way about Hali, too. Hali is the better value and perhaps has more untapped upside, but Fox is currently the better player.

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March 25, 2022 4:50 pm
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I’m old enough to remember when I thought Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond was a bad deal. Obviously I was wrong, but I also was 18. It wasn’t the only dumb thought I had back then. It’s not like the interwebs with exceptionally advanced theory could be read from the time I was 7 like kids now have.

I agree about all of your points except untapped potential, though. I would add that I think Hali has a higher chance at hitting his ceiling than Fox because Fox’s ceiling is so incredibly high in theory. We’re going to find out alot about De’Aaron next season, no matter how you slice it or feel about De’Aaron Fox.

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March 25, 2022 5:54 pm
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This is always something I’m interested in. Why do you think that Fox’s ceiling is “so incredibly high” in comparison to Hali’s?

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March 25, 2022 6:27 pm

Yeah, I don’t get that either. We’re at the end of year five. Fox is at his ceiling. I suppose it’s not impossible that he takes these one month stretches where he looks like an All Star and plays like that more consistently, but it’s doubtful after this much time in the NBA.

For Fox to ever be a true #1 or #2 on a winner, someone (including him) needs to figure out what the hell happened in the first half of this season, and what to do when it happens in half of next season.

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March 25, 2022 6:58 pm
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I don’t think he’s at his ceiling. I just don’t see any reason to think his ceiling is necessarily higher than Haliburton’s. He’s an elite athlete and I suspect that’s where it comes from. But I personally don’t see that as any more of a ceiling raiser than Haliburton’s elite BBIQ and positional length.

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March 26, 2022 11:57 am

He’s an elite athlete and I suspect that’s where it comes from. But I personally don’t see that as any more of a ceiling raiser than Haliburton’s elite BBIQ and positional length.

It’s a combination of athleticism and skill. BBIQ is important, and I happen to think De’Aaron doesn’t lack that. It’s more that he’s not a natural leader and with a team so soft before Domas that his flaws became ever so magnified. Cause nor cure seems an accurate descriptor for both De’Aaron and Tyrese.

It can’t be stressed enough that it comes off to me (this may not apply to you specifically) that the reason so many think Haliburton is more talented than Fox is the style of play. I have always been of the opinion that it looks more impactful than it is. It fits a particular fancy for a good number of fans.

I don’t have a preferred style of play, or player. But I do prefer you be great at whatever you do. No matter how you look at it, your impact had better be high. And I don’t think Tyrese ever made as much impact as his reputation here (and wherever else you want to look) would suggest. His impact on defense wasn’t great, and his impact on offense never seemed to translate into great offense for Sac overall.

None of this is to say that Haliburton is less talented than Fox necessarily. I really don’t think it matters about ‘talent’ as that is so subjective, but I think specific elements of Fox stand out. Who is asked to take game winners and/or big baskets in big moments? Did Haliburton ever ask to take defensive assignments? What specifically makes passing, hoops IQ and length such an unique combination of traits? Especially in the NBA. What made building around Tyrese so attractive? Not to put too fine a point on it, but this isn’t Anthony Edwards we’re talking about. I guess where I fail to see is what makes you better by building around Tyrese. Other than you like his particular style.

The only advantage that I ever thought Tyrese had over De’Aaron was that he was cheaper and younger. Which is great, but the same issue of savior likely would have plagued Tyrese as well. Lack of talent is lack of talent. And this team didnt have enough of it. And at some point that would have swallowed up Tyrese as it did De’Aaron for large chunks of his career. It’s not just players and agents that think ill of the organization right now, it’s also former one’s that used to play here. This organization is anathema for positive outlook atm, and it’s going to take a special set of circumstances to maybe change that. And I don’t see what made Tyrese unique in that regard.

I guess my thought is that for the Kings to improve, instead of trying to look at Cleveland or Memphis or Denver, look at Minnesota. They didn’t do anything incredible this past offseason. They brought in Patrick Beverly who has come in and been Pat Bev, but other than that? Not much unless you think Taurean Prince is a major contributor. (I don’t.) Yet, you could argue they are the most improved team in all of the NBA right now. Vanderbilt has made strides for them, Beasley has reverted to being mostly good Malik Beasley most nights, Reid is one of the better backup C’s in the league right now, D’Angelo Russell is being D’Angelo Russell which is more helpful than not a lot of nights when he doesn’t have to be a top 2 player for you.

And how did the Wolves do that? Partially by buying into that Karl-Anthony Towns was not finished growing as a player (you can argue that one a lot though). What they really did was just believe that they were growing something and were ready to take that next step. How many people around the NBA had them as a top 6-7 team in the standings at the beginning of this year?

And if there’s any player whose comparable to Towns in the NBA of being on a bad franchise for too long, it’s De’Aaron Fox. Sure, I get that people don’t like the way De’Aaron does things and it’s never going to be the preferred style. But I look at a team like Minnesota that really made changes before this season and let them take shape and see how the season played out. Cleveland was the surprise of the 1st half of the season, and Memphis has taken the biggest leap, but Minnesota has made the largest one season to next difference in all of the NBA.

So just because you don’t see change or what not coming doesn’t mean it won’t come. But you have to make the smart right moves and sometimes that means showing faith in a player that everyone else has a lot less faith in. And the talent level of Fox is something that, frankly, I think people discount because of the way he does it. There’s no team in the league that minds De’Aaron Fox taking 6 3’s a night even if he’s at 40% from out there. Why? Because he’s not getting to the FT line 10 times. And where De’Aaron is not (the paint) is far more effective in stopping the Kings offense, and the Kings offense is nearly as bad as the defense right now. I’ve seen glimpses of an elite offense with De’Aaron getting into the paint. I’ve never really seen glimpses of that with Tyrese at the controls, sadly.

Who in the NBA is afraid of Tyrese’s passing and will stop him from making those passes? He’s not Chris Paul. The trick with De’Aaron is to find a roster that allows him to get into the lane as often as he needs to to create, a coaching staff that understands this, and the talent to make teams pay when they pack in the paint. Having players adjust better to what teams are doing wouldn’t hurt either.

There’s a lot you can argue against De’Aaron Fox in a number of ways in his tenure in Sacramento. But it’s inarguable, IMO, that while Fox has no doubt done himself no favors in several ways, this franchise has done De’Aaron Fox absolutely NO favors whatsoever outside of making the next several generations of his family wealthy.

And if you want to get this down to the nitty gritty of it, I see De’Aaron having that type of talent for one reason over Tyrese: How other teams react. I don’t see other teams reacting to Tyrese the way they do De’Aaron when both are playing well. It’s subjective, and yes, it’s my criteria, but I’m not using your criteria to judge players. I use my criteria and mine alone. And that’s perhaps the problem here. Everyone will use their own criteria and have their own interpration.

It is what it is. Sorry for the late and long response.

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March 29, 2022 11:00 pm
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Best post in a longgggg while. The issue I can’t get past on Fox is that he’s only at his best for about half the regular season +/-. What does he do to grow his game? What kind of intense training work does he do in the off season?

His claim to fame when he showed up to training camp was that he had gained 10 lbs of muscle which was largely an illusion, he gained 10 pounds in the off season and his game didn’t begin to return to form until he’d worked off the excess baggage. Shit I can gain 10lbs in the holiday season. Did it take him all of 5 months to achieve that?

I get Fox’s high skill level and you can throw out all the stats you want and I can’t argue with one of them, first of all because he’s earned them and I know you wouldn’t misrepresent them.

All I can say in my view is that in my subjective view is that Fox is lacking something that Davion has in spades. While Davion will probably never reach Fox’s scoring levels he’s got that “it” which I can’t properly explain will likely IMO contribute more to whatever team Davion ends up on winning more games than Fox’s almost All Star stat’s ever will.

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March 26, 2022 9:01 am
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I never get these statements that a player has hit his ceiling. Did the Greek freak hit his ceiling in year 5 or was it year 8 when he became the MVP?

Fox can and will improve. We will find out if this last month of incredible play and statistics is sustainable over an entire season soon enough. If he can start the season strong then I think it’s likely.

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March 26, 2022 10:03 am
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GIannis improved every year. Fox has digressed across the board this season, and hasn’t improved in areas where he’s deficient (defense, shooting, passing to a degree). And it’s not like Giannis made a leap from year 5 to year 6. He was incrementally better. Fox might have another season like he did last season, but I maintain he’s at his ceiling.

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March 26, 2022 10:49 am
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their paths don’t need to be the same. None of what you said means fox can’t improve or won’t improve. Saying he has hit his ceiling is just too blanket of a statement in my book.

there’s just no point in making that declaration.

“I hope he hasn’t reached his ceiling” is a different way of saying what it is I think you’re trying to say. What happens if he improves next year in all categories and sustains this last month of INSANE GAME over an entire season? You would be wrong. There’s no way you know he has hit the ceiling. There’s no way that I know he hasn’t hit the ceiling. The only thing to do is hope he hasn’t. Plenty of players improve drastically from year 5 to year 8,9,10 etcetera. It’s not an outlier, I think it’s actually the more common occurrence.

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March 25, 2022 4:07 pm
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Actually, Davi’s rookie stats are better than FOX as a rookie . A more fair comp .

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March 25, 2022 4:33 pm
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If they can’t play together (jerking-off motion), then he can play 35 minutes a night as sixth man. Fox starting games with DiVincenzo or Davis hardly seems unworkable, should my jerking-off motion have been premature and off-target.

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March 25, 2022 4:39 pm
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Sims, I would never accuse you or your jerking off to be off target.

If they can’t play together (jerking-off motion), then he can play 35 minutes a night as sixth man. Fox starting games with DiVincenzo or Davis hardly seems unworkable

Excuse me while I laugh at the first part for awhile. But to your 2nd point, I think of Davion as a 3rd G type and I can definitely see why you would start TD or Dante in that scenario. I think people have forgotten that Terence Davis exists. I kinda get why, but I kinda don’t at the same time. He seems, in theory, to be the kind of player who would thrive playing off Domas.

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March 25, 2022 5:57 pm
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That said, a starting lineup that includes Davis or DiVincenzo better also include someone like Giannis or it isn’t likely to be especially good. They’re the kind of fringe starters that you can get away with if you just need them to perform a very narrow role in support of a couple/few true stars.

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March 25, 2022 6:29 pm

Yep. That’s a sub 40 win team unless you’re turning Barnes into Jayson Tatum. Peripheral players and specialists just don’t matter much until your core can push you above .500. Kings aren’t there, but they’re probably closer than they were at the beginning of this season.

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March 25, 2022 6:47 pm
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They’re a bit closer with a bit fewer asserts to make the next addition. Which is the way it usually goes. The next big move is going to play a big role in whether this build can turn the corner sooner rather than later. I’m really interested to see how the off-season plays out.

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March 26, 2022 8:16 am

Yup, I keep seeing folks say, “but DDV started for a championship team in Milwaukee!” Yeah, but he also started next to Giannis, Jrue, Middleton, and Lopez. He was definitely the 5th banana by averaging just 10 points per game.

Hell, JaVale McGee started for the 2020 championship Lakers, but that doesn’t mean he should start for the Kings.

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March 25, 2022 7:14 pm
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Davion shared pg duties with Jared Butler at Baylor, and he also flourished next to Haliburton, so I would think he would prefer to play next to one or more playmakers.

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March 26, 2022 8:32 am
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The question is not about Davi. The question is about Davi/Fox. They have yet to play consistently well together. I’ll become a believer if/when that happens.

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March 26, 2022 9:42 am
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hmm, so if Fox has not paired well with Davion, and Haliburton did not play well next to Fox, and Holiday can’t make a shot next to Fox, what is Fox doing or not doing to affect his teammates on offense? Is his usage rate too high? Is his pace annoying to play alongside? Is the offense too stationary with Fox initiating? Does Fox not do enough to create good shots for others? I’m not the expert here, but I hope the next coach diagnoses the problem before he gets hired and has a good plan to fix it before he gets hired. What do you think it is? (I’ll check for an answer later today or tomorrow. Otherwise, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on another thread.)

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March 26, 2022 10:07 am
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My theory, which is worth what you paid for from a guy who knows grass, is that Fox isn’t good without the ball in his hands. That’s a real problem when the guy who has the ball is a good, but not a top end talent.

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March 26, 2022 10:28 am
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Playing off the ball can be learned. I think his 3-point shooting percentage off the catch was better the last time I heard someone pull up the stat (last year, on a smaller sample size). A few games ago the Kings won off a back door cut by Fox and pass from Sabonis (designed play off a time out I think). It’s more about willingness to play off the ball. So why not? Does he not trust anyone? Is he told not to play off the ball? Is it because McNair had plans for a “five-out” offense built around Fox (or perhaps the organization’s plan, see not drafting Doncic because they already had Fox) and like you said, Fox is not elite enough for a team to put that much reliance on it?

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March 25, 2022 9:24 pm
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I would like to see a coach who runs the O through Sabonis -a lot -and make Fox learn how to fucking play without the ball. It’s ridiculous that good players have to be avoided/gotten rid rather than addressing Fox’s need to get better off ball.

And I do think Davion can be good off ball.

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March 26, 2022 9:51 am
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This is the same circumstance I think we would’ve run into with Doncic and Fox- both are best with the ball in their hands and Fox doesn’t have a good enough perimeter game to play off ball and I’m not sure of Doncic’s willingness to play off ball.

Thank goodness Vlade spared us that awkward pairing!

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March 25, 2022 2:41 pm

Trade Fox for a 3-D wing and give Mitchell the keys!

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March 25, 2022 4:27 pm
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If that 3 and D wing is an All Star, that’s exactly what they should do. Of course that’s fairly unrealistic. Still, would love for it to happen.

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March 25, 2022 2:42 pm

Davion and Domas will make quite the pair!

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March 25, 2022 3:28 pm
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I have not seen that in forever. I probably should again.

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March 25, 2022 6:19 pm

10.7 points on 47.7% shooting and 32.3% from 3

Davion is at 41.5% FG% on the season.

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March 25, 2022 9:15 pm

Is this team actually identifying legitimate NBA talent and than developing that talent?

Absolutely amazing.

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March 25, 2022 9:20 pm

Davion’s best position is point guard. A great on ball defender but too small to be the starting shooting guard next to Fox. The Jayson Tatum’s, Klay Thompson’s, Devin Bookers’s, etc. would just shoot over the top of him or take him down in the paint and shoot over the top of him.

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March 25, 2022 9:36 pm
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yes. Second unit PG and some time with Fox in smaller lineups.
Most likely picks for Kings: not top 4- so Murray, Griffin, Sharpe or Davis or Mathurin.
I think Murray or Griffin goes 5.
At 7, Kings get choice of Davis, Sharpe ( who needs to be scouted well) and Mathurin who I think is better than Kuminga- not a better athlete but a better player.

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March 25, 2022 9:32 pm

I don’t think the DS trade was “to win now”. He is 25 years old.
Fox and Hali were redundant. DS plays another position and plays it well.

Davion has moved to 9th on KIA Rookie Ladder- close to Ayo and Jones. While he has flourished with Fox out, his redundancy is not the same as Hali’s. He plays better D and does not have to have the ball in his hands to the same extent as Hali.

If Kings can get and make a good pick in 2022 draft + get the best FA possible then they could actually start to look like an NBA team next year. I do have hope and the pick is important. While I like Davion, the pick right in front of him- Wagner- is 5th in rookie ladder. And the difference was one win.
In second round Herb Jones went one pick in front of Quetta. Herb Jones- 7th in rookie ladder.
It’s more than odds, it is position. I hate to see the Kings lose but I am taking the long view

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March 26, 2022 8:07 am

Mitchell has also been huge in the last three games where the Kings were missing De’Aaron Fox. His played 39.7 minutes per game, and is averaging 21.7 points, 6 assists, and 1.7 rebounds, while still shooting 47.1% overall and 43.8% from beyond the arc.

This is an incredibly small sample size that I would like to see get bigger. If for nothing else, sit Fox the rest of the season and see if this trend can continue for Mitchell.

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March 26, 2022 10:53 am

I think you could argue his play is more impactful than fox’s, he’s now bringing scoring with defense.

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March 27, 2022 10:53 am

Mitchell was the right decision, and the Beverly talk instead of the Lowry/VanVleet talk was insulting.

He’s not coming off the bench. He doesn’t want to, and doesn’t play to do so. Thats why he didn’t want to be drafted here, because of that prospect

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